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Old 09-10-2011, 03:01 PM   #1
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New cradle bushings in 3.5 hours at home

I just finished installing my new energy cradle bushings. I removed the j pipes on my cat back and then removed the whole cradle. I did this in the garage with one floor jack by my self. Using an impact on the exhaust and cradle bolts. All other bolts done by hand. Start to finish was 3.5 hours. Not near as bad as every one made it seem.
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:17 PM   #2
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Good stuff, after reading some horror stories, I'm a bit nervous about the BMR cradle inserts I'm gonna attempt soon. I only have a 3/8" torque wrench that goes up to 75 ft lbs. I read the cradle bolts should be torqued to 130 lbs tho. I'm thinking of torqueing them to 75lbs then tightening them on a bit more. Did you use blue thread lock on anything? Or is that only for sway bar/ endlinks nuts?
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:23 PM   #3
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Honestly....130 is a bit. I did mine to 120 and think it's possibly to much still. Put a little blue locktight and got with the 75 lbs and I'll bet you'll be fine.
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:28 PM   #4
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I did not use any thread lock. I was in no hurry when doing this either. I took my time and did not rush any thing. I figured if I was going to do the work might as well do the full bushings and not just the inserts.
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Old 09-11-2011, 07:00 AM   #5
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I don't believe you HAVE to remove the whole cradle for just inserts, ducq

With full bushings, as OP is referencing, may be a different story. I went with inserts for rear cradle, full bush for the remaining...
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:36 AM   #6
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I don't believe you HAVE to remove the whole cradle for just inserts, ducq

With full bushings, as OP is referencing, may be a different story. I went with inserts for rear cradle, full bush for the remaining...

You are correct. Inserts would have been less then half the time for me.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:45 AM   #7
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I don't believe you HAVE to remove the whole cradle for just inserts, ducq

With full bushings, as OP is referencing, may be a different story. I went with inserts for rear cradle, full bush for the remaining...
I did full bushings without taking it down. It was definitely tougher to cut out the stock bushings but wasn't terrible; just took a while. If the place had a proper tranny jack lowering it would have been easier for the cutting but would have required removing the exhaust too. The equipment a person has available will determine the "best" method for them.
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I just finished installing my new energy cradle bushings. I removed the j pipes on my cat back and then removed the whole cradle. I did this in the garage with one floor jack by my self. Using an impact on the exhaust and cradle bolts. All other bolts done by hand. Start to finish was 3.5 hours. Not near as bad as every one made it seem.
Nice, I'll be doing mine in the garage at home. I have a motorcycle jack which I will probably utilize to support/lower the cradle.

How high did you have the car on Jack stands?

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Old 09-11-2011, 09:09 AM   #9
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Mine was done with all basic tools that most car people have. That was why I posted this. I have seen where several people said this was a hard task. That is not so. I was going to cut them out at first. I decided I could remove it and get them out quicker. I did not cut them to remove them as most people have done. A floor jack worked perfect with no problems at all. I think it's more about machanical know how.
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:13 AM   #10
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Nice, I'll be doing mine in the garage at home. I have a motorcycle jack which I will probably utilize to support/lower the cradle.

How high did you have the car on Jack stands?

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My jack stands are 15" all the way down. I left them down and placed them in front of the rear wheels on the frame rails if you want to call them that. I have some cell phone pics I will post later and explain some of what I did.
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That is plenty of explanation for me I have a set of 15" stands. Was just asking cause I wasnt sure if I would need to pick it up higher.

I'm just waiting on some more parts to show up so I can do it all at once.
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:44 AM   #12
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Mine was done with all basic tools that most car people have. That was why I posted this. I have seen where several people said this was a hard task. That is not so. I was going to cut them out at first. I decided I could remove it and get them out quicker. I did not cut them to remove them as most people have done. A floor jack worked perfect with no problems at all. I think it's more about machanical know how.
How did you get them out without cutting?
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In the videos, the metal washers they pop out with an air gun, are these metal washers reused and placed back on? Or do the inserts take their place
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Old 09-11-2011, 12:54 PM   #14
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How did you get them out without cutting?

when the carage is out. You will see the bushing is put in from the bottom and sticks out above the carage on the top side. You trim the top side of the bushing flush with the carage half way around. Then you will take a chizel and drive it between the bushing and carage. this will break the plastic housing. The chizel I used was about 1/2 diameter. Then take a hammer and 6-7 good hits to the top of the bushing and it will come out.

Yes you will reuse the washers
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