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Old 09-29-2011, 09:30 PM   #76
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Not yet. They're buttoning up a few things. Definitely going on tomorrow. The 4L80 robs a lot of HP, but I'm still hoping to make 700 RWHP on blower. I already have a Cold Fusion nitrous kit.
More than the 6l80? That's interesting. So then the sole benefit is being bulletproof? Excuse my ignorance. I'm just trying to learn for my future reference. Thanks!
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Old 09-29-2011, 09:34 PM   #77
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Got to start it last night. It's still on the old tune, so the computer is kind of freaking out. I just wanted to hear it, so we cranked it up. Here's a teaser.

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Old 09-29-2011, 09:36 PM   #78
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More than the 6l80? That's interesting. So then the sole benefit is being bulletproof? Excuse my ignorance. I'm just trying to learn for my future reference. Thanks!

I don't know that it robs anything more than a 6L80 but the real benefit is the bulletproof piece. These have been out far longer and the aftermarket is much deeper.
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Old 09-29-2011, 09:43 PM   #79
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I don't know that it robs anything more than a 6L80 but the real benefit is the bulletproof piece. These have been out far longer and the aftermarket is much deeper.

Why hasn't anyone gone with a 6L90? I saw one on a cstv that was going pretty quick.
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I don't know that it robs anything more than a 6L80 but the real benefit is the bulletproof piece. These have been out far longer and the aftermarket is much deeper.
And you can lock your convertor...
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Old 09-29-2011, 09:50 PM   #81
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And you can lock your convertor...
So we can't with the 6l80? I thought we were able to.
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Old 09-29-2011, 10:15 PM   #82
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More than the 6l80? That's interesting. So then the sole benefit is being bulletproof? Excuse my ignorance. I'm just trying to learn for my future reference. Thanks!
Yes...definitely more than the 6L80.

Being bulletproof is definitely a huge benefit, but not the only one. I shift one less time in the quarter mile (finish in 3rd) which obviously saves time. Also, instead of switching clutch packs (like the 6L80) the 4L80 adds them. The shifts are instant which means I stay in boost and never get out of boost.

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Why hasn't anyone gone with a 6L90? I saw one on a cstv that was going pretty quick.
I would guess because it's cheaper to build your own 6L80.
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Old 09-29-2011, 10:23 PM   #83
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NUMBERS???????????????? CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:33 PM   #85
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NUMBERS???????????????? CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!
Sorry...it was a crazy weekend. We still have some tweaking to do, but wanted to get it ready to run at the Camaro Nationals this weekend. Our best pull was 725 RWHP, and 714 RWTQ at 13.1 lbs of boost. I'll update you once we play around with the tune and add nitrous.
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Good numbers through the 4L. If it hooks, it should fly!
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whats your boost goal?
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I don't really have a boost goal. I was actually surprised we made so much at only 13 lbs. I know the Whipple has plenty more, and they do offer 2 smaller pulleys. I'm really not sure what I'll do next. Running around with 725 to the wheel is pretty insane already. I may just leave it like it is and use nitrous for whatever else I want.
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Good numbers through the 4L. If it hooks, it should fly!
I agree...I was very pleased with the numbers and we're still tweaking the tune. We didn't even lock the converter or install the meth kit yet.
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I don't really have a boost goal. I was actually surprised we made so much at only 13 lbs. I know the Whipple has plenty more, and they do offer 2 smaller pulleys. I'm really not sure what I'll do next. Running around with 725 to the wheel is pretty insane already. I may just leave it like it is and use nitrous for whatever else I want.
Sounds like a monster Russ. At this point tune it with the nitrous and make it a consistent runner. Then when you "feel the need" up the baseline a little if you so choose with a smaller pulley and do the same. That's the fun of these builds. Always something to look forward to.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:08 PM   #92
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I agree...I was very pleased with the numbers and we're still tweaking the tune. We didn't even lock the converter or install the meth kit yet.
so says the man who drift launched out of the hole!!

When he finds hook he will be even more of contender. He is exciting to watch.
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Great numbers Russ, now get her to the track!!
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He just got her off the track yesterday....
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Great numbers Russ, now get her to the track!!
I just went this past weekend to the Camaro Nationals, but couldn't get the tires to stick. Need to work on my burnouts and make sure they put enough water in the box. She slid around on every pass, and my best run was 11.21 @ 127.48. Still got a few tweaks to do and I'll be ready to take her out again.
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I just went this past weekend to the Camaro Nationals, but couldn't get the tires to stick. Need to work on my burnouts and make sure they put enough water in the box. She slid around on every pass, and my best run was 11.21 @ 127.48. Still got a few tweaks to do and I'll be ready to take her out again.
Hey Russ! Been watching your build quietly... You couldn't get the auto to launch? What are you running for rears?
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I just went this past weekend to the Camaro Nationals, but couldn't get the tires to stick. Need to work on my burnouts and make sure they put enough water in the box. She slid around on every pass, and my best run was 11.21 @ 127.48. Still got a few tweaks to do and I'll be ready to take her out again.
What was your 60' on that pass? What tires are you running? Any rear suspension work?
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Hey Russ! Been watching your build quietly... You couldn't get the auto to launch? What are you running for rears?
A lot of the launching problem was the water box.... there was very little water being put down and it wasn't leading to good burnouts.... and the serious increase in power... Russ drifted a couple hundred feet down the track one pass... but I also saw him in a heck of a pedal fest... with some of the quickest responses to what the car was doing I've seen outside of professional racing... He done good.... Really good, for a relatively speaking, brand new car...
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What was your 60' on that pass? What tires are you running? Any rear suspension work?
Mickey Thompson ET Street DRs. I have a BMR rear sway. My best 60' Sunday was a 1.82...best ever was a 1.61.

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A lot of the launching problem was the water box.... there was very little water being put down and it wasn't leading to good burnouts.... and the serious increase in power... Russ drifted a couple hundred feet down the track one pass... but I also saw him in a heck of a pedal fest... with some of the quickest responses to what the car was doing I've seen outside of professional racing... He done good.... Really good, for a relatively speaking, brand new car...
Thanks bro. I was struggling in that lane, but when I tried to get over to the left (where they seemed to be spraying all the water) they wouldn't let me...even on a bye run. I was also concerned because two motors had blown spraying synthetic oil all over it. I know those guys work to get everything cleaned up, but it still makes you nervous.

It was the first time I've shifted the 4L80 on the track, and the LSX was newly installed. Still had a blast...just need to keep working at it.
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Here's a quick video to show you how mean this things sounds. I ran it down the street (didn't really get on it), then Owen went.

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