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Old 09-12-2011, 08:13 PM   #1
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Weight reduction list...

Since I was harassed to type it out in the other forum , here you go. Additional numbers courtesy of BMR



-6 Airbags (Side Curtain, Seats, dash) (-13.4 pounds)
Dash removed, lightened, tubular steel loop cut off of cross brace, cross brace lightened, sound deadening removed from backside of FW (-30 lbs)
Removed rear seats, belts and brackets, and sheet metal holding bracket mounts (-45.4 pounds)
Weld RT-S & tires vs stock 20s (-85 pounds)
Headers/X/Dumps at axle for weight (-60 pounds)
Tubular front crash support (-12 pounds)
Remove rear crash support (-26 pounds)
!Evap (9.7 pounds, not including evap line, which I left in)
!A/C (-49 pounds)
!Wiper Motor Assy (-9 pounds)
!Junk Block Oil Cooler/Heater, unnecessary (-7 pounds)
Lightweight Billet clutch vs. stock (-12 pounds)
Sound deadening removed from under seats, backseats, trunk, including hood/trunk liner (-8 pounds)
Braille battery (-29 pounds)
Windshield Washer Tank + Pump and lines empty weight (4 pounds)


ITEM
WEIGHT (LBS.)
LOWER REAR SEAT
10.2
UPPER REAR SEAT
28
DRIVERS SEAT
54.6
PASSENGER SEAT
44
A/C EVAPORATOR CORE ASSY.
13.4
A/C COMPRESSOR
13.2
A/C CONDENSER
6.4
A/C-HEAT BLOWER MOTOR ASSY
4.2
A/C LINES AND DUCTING
7.6
A/C FIREWALL COVER
3.6
DRIVERS AIR BAG
1.6
PASSENGER AIR BAG
5.4
SIDE AIR BAG (EACH)
3.2
FIREWALL INSULATION
2.8
FLOOR INSULATION
12
TRUNK CARPET AND WELL COVER
15.2
TRUNK COMPRESSOR
6
TRUNK-LID STRUTS (PAIR)
1
FRONT BUMPER
14.6
REAR BUMPER
26.4
RADIO
4
DOOR SPEAKERS (PAIR)
3.6
FLOOR MATS (FRONT PAIR)
4.8
CENTER CONSOLE
8.2
EMERGENCY BRAKE LEVER W/CABLES
6.2
FRONT SEAT BELTS (PAIR)
6
REAR SEAT BELTS (PAIR)
3.6
FRONT BRAKE ROTORS (EACH)
25.4
REAR BRAKE ROTORS (EACH)
24
FRONT CALIPERS (EACH)
11.4
REAR CALIPERS (EACH)
7.4
HOOD
25.3
HOOD INSULATION
1.2
HORNS (PAIR)
1.4
WIPER ASSEMBLY W/MOTOR
8.6
WINDSHIELD COWL PLASTIC
3.6
DRIVESHAFT – 6 SPEED MANUAL
24
FUEL TANK SHIELD
2.8
DRIVE SHAFT HEAT SHIELD
.8
STOCK AIR BOX
7
ENGINE COVER
4.4
CLUTCH ASSEMBLY (INCLUDING FLYWHEEL)
57

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Old 09-12-2011, 08:16 PM   #2
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:18 PM   #3
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No pics of the interior work other then right after I pulled the dash, I didnt take any when I did it. The supports are hiding behind the bumpers, and the dash stuff isn't visible. But yeah, other then brakes/coils I've got a few ideas to get the car to 3500 lbs. It's VERY close. Lexan back glass will drop another 40, and contemplating getting a sheet metal drivers seat to swap in for race days for another 30.


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Old 09-12-2011, 09:01 PM   #4
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Thanks for this Diet. Mods should make this a Sticky
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:04 PM   #5
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I'd love to loose 400 lbs from my car. That would do the trick!!
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So you're saying I have a weight problem:( On chemo I'm only 150, down from 175 so I guess you can say that I am reducing weight. I picked up .025 just from that!!!!!!!!!! That brings the car with me and 4 Bogarts to 4170#. 3500 would be sweet!
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:14 PM   #9
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So you're saying I have a weight problem:( On chemo I'm only 150, down from 175 so I guess you can say that I am reducing weight. I picked up .025 just from that!!!!!!!!!! That brings the car with me and 4 Bogarts to 4170#. 3500 would be sweet!
I thought he was sayin' PQ would lop a 670lb chunk of your car off...
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:20 PM   #10
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Are the tubular crash supports available to buy or were they fabricated?
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They were fabbed from 1 1/8" OD chromoly and some basic 3/16" plate (leftover roll cage tubing). Nothing fancy, just functional. Surprised no one offers a manufactured piece, but it's also a liability for a MFR as technically you are modifying the car's crash structure, even if you're making a stronger and lighter part.

I did add a few pounds back to the car with the rear drag bar (necessary) and the DSS/Hendrix axles (also necessary). A 6 point is going to add another 40-45 pounds, which is unfortunate, but I'll find that weight elsewhere.
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I thought he was sayin' PQ would lop a 670lb chunk of your car off...
This,^^^ wheels, bumpers, oil pan.... etc... lol,,, It just struck me...

Jaime, I'm sure with a little bit of cooler weather, you'll be in the nines, without any further weight loss...

I hope everything is headed your way in re the Chemo... My brother in law just went through a long term battle... That was a roller coaster I don't wish on anyone...
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Didnt put engine cover, intake cover, or tire inflator/foam on the list, but I didnt weigh those either. Maybe another 6-7 pounds there.
Front swaybar I'm still up in the air about. May keep it may ditch it, depends on how the car behaves with the drag bar in the back.

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If you are runnin around on Skinnies I dot think you will run into a problem with oversteer

Wide tires up front different story.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:56 PM   #15
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Where and how much?

Could this battery be used on a daily driver with an under-drive pulley? ...what are the downsides to this battery?

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Its a braille #2317, got it from summit. One of the site sponsors prob carries them. Too
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In colder climates you would want to keep an eye on that lightweight battery on a DD. If you hooked it up to a charger at night it would probably last alot longer. Definately worth it for almost 30lbs.
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I live in Michigan but I put the car up for winter. The car never sees anything below ~45 degrees or so.

Just wondering if it is safe/reliable for a daily driver etc? Any problems with mounting?
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I rejust rebent and redrilled the holes in the factory battery mount sides. Uses the factory topplate and holds the battery sturdy.
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I talked to an ex-Braille rep recently and he said that they are fine for most late model cars that are driven regularly. They have a low reserve capacity so if the car isn't charging the battery daily they will have difficulty starting. He basically said that they were not recommended for "weekend cars" unless you use a battery tender. Also, with such a low reserve capacity you only get about 2-3 starts on the battery per charge so using them on older, carbureted cars is a no-no...
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Since I was harassed to type it out in the other forum , here you go. Additional numbers courtesy of BMR



-6 Airbags (Side Curtain, Seats, dash) (-13.4 pounds)
Dash removed, lightened, tubular steel loop cut off of cross brace, cross brace lightened, sound deadening removed from backside of FW (-30 lbs)
Removed rear seats, belts and brackets, and sheet metal holding bracket mounts (-45.4 pounds)
Weld RT-S & tires vs stock 20s (-85 pounds)
Headers/X/Dumps at axle for weight (-60 pounds)
Tubular front crash support (-12 pounds)
Remove rear crash support (-26 pounds)
!Evap (9.7 pounds, not including evap line, which I left in)
!A/C (-49 pounds)
!Wiper Motor Assy (-9 pounds)
!Junk Block Oil Cooler/Heater, unnecessary (-7 pounds)
Lightweight Billet clutch vs. stock (-12 pounds)
Sound deadening removed from under seats, backseats, trunk, including hood/trunk liner (-8 pounds)
Braille battery (-29 pounds)
Windshield Washer Tank + Pump and lines empty weight (4 pounds)


ITEM
WEIGHT (LBS.)
LOWER REAR SEAT
10.2
UPPER REAR SEAT
28
DRIVERS SEAT
54.6
PASSENGER SEAT
44
A/C EVAPORATOR CORE ASSY.
13.4
A/C COMPRESSOR
13.2
A/C CONDENSER
6.4
A/C-HEAT BLOWER MOTOR ASSY
4.2
A/C LINES AND DUCTING
7.6
A/C FIREWALL COVER
3.6
DRIVERS AIR BAG
1.6
PASSENGER AIR BAG
5.4
SIDE AIR BAG (EACH)
3.2
FIREWALL INSULATION
2.8
FLOOR INSULATION
12
TRUNK CARPET AND WELL COVER
15.2
TRUNK COMPRESSOR
6
TRUNK-LID STRUTS (PAIR)
1
FRONT BUMPER
14.6
REAR BUMPER
26.4
RADIO
4
DOOR SPEAKERS (PAIR)
3.6
FLOOR MATS (FRONT PAIR)
4.8
CENTER CONSOLE
8.2
EMERGENCY BRAKE LEVER W/CABLES
6.2
FRONT SEAT BELTS (PAIR)
6
REAR SEAT BELTS (PAIR)
3.6
FRONT BRAKE ROTORS (EACH)
25.4
REAR BRAKE ROTORS (EACH)
24
FRONT CALIPERS (EACH)
11.4
REAR CALIPERS (EACH)
7.4
HOOD
25.3
HOOD INSULATION
1.2
HORNS (PAIR)
1.4
WIPER ASSEMBLY W/MOTOR
8.6
WINDSHIELD COWL PLASTIC
3.6
DRIVESHAFT – 6 SPEED MANUAL
24
FUEL TANK SHIELD
2.8
DRIVE SHAFT HEAT SHIELD
.8
STOCK AIR BOX
7
ENGINE COVER
4.4
CLUTCH ASSEMBLY (INCLUDING FLYWHEEL)
57
How fun was that removing the dash and evaporator? Did you cut the (2) firewall bolts or pull the windshield? It's pretty ridiculous that the first step in the service manual for replacing an evaporater core is to remove the windshield!
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Confirmed drivers seat @ 54.6 lbs.

17" Kirkey pro drag seat @ 14.6lbs with cover, 17 pounds with bracket+brace.

Net savings 37.6 pounds
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