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stock00ss · 09-19-2011, 10:54 AM

How much rwhp will it take for my camaro to outrun a zr1 from a 30 roll? I have 573 rwhp and 596rwtq.

ULTRAZLS1 · 09-19-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stock00ss

How much rwhp will it take for my camaro to outrun a zr1 from a 30 roll? I have 573 rwhp and 596rwtq.

ZR1 is 33xx lbs.

Your camaro with a supercharger is about 4k.

You would need at least 70 more rwhp than the zr-1 for it to be a good race just as a quick guess. I think they put down about 530rwhp stock.

I am guessing you would need about 600rwhp for it to be interesting.

About ~650 to "outrun" it.

Mr CLuTcH · 09-19-2011, 12:25 PM

Not only do you need about as much rwhp because of the ZR1's weight, you will also need ALOT of traction to put all that power to the ground or else he will just walk you. Even from a roll of any kind you still need to have some great tires that will grip like a tiger and a good suspension setup to help it all work in unison.

Whatever tires comes on the Z06 Centennial editions wouldn't be a bad idea, but I don' think the tread life last very long though.

stock00ss · 09-19-2011, 01:16 PM

Well, I'm definitely going to need some better tires, but I'm done modding for now. So, I'm just gonna line up and see what happens.

maxdmax · 09-19-2011, 01:43 PM

I know 616 RWHP and a good set of Mickey Thompson D/R will do it, but it will be close if both can drive.

ffrcobra_65 · 09-19-2011, 04:43 PM

big bank account is what it will take.

Jcobra · 09-19-2011, 05:30 PM

1000!

AZ MSCL · 09-19-2011, 07:27 PM

After you get that 650 rwhp, plan on forging everything under the hood, new tranny, driveshaft, dif, wheels, tires, suspension, etc... Strip the interior out and put a carbon fiber body on... And find an 80 lb driver.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 09-19-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

After you get that 650 rwhp, plan on forging everything under the hood, new tranny, driveshaft, dif, wheels, tires, suspension, etc... Strip the interior out and put a carbon fiber body on... And find an 80 lb driver.

Oh, I don't know about all that...

AZ MSCL · 09-19-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS

Oh, I don't know about all that...

OK, a bit exaggerated. I'll go 100 lbs on the driver...

MikeOD · 09-19-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

OK, a bit exaggerated. I'll go 100 lbs on the driver...

I weigh 130...can I drive?

*SSE 4 2SS* · 09-19-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

OK, a bit exaggerated. I'll go 100 lbs on the driver...

I can't reply any further but....

AZ MSCL · 09-19-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS

I can't reply any further but....

I don't get it, what are you saying???

Just kidding and I was simply trying to be a bit facetious with all the suggested mods. I'm with you! You could leave the seats in using a titanium roll bar.

Could even let MikeOD drive!

SSOOCH · 09-19-2011, 11:00 PM

Outrun? 1/4 Mile? Top end?

More details please?

oldlugs · 09-19-2011, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Not only do you need about as much rwhp because of the ZR1's weight, you will also need ALOT of traction to put all that power to the ground or else he will just walk you...

That's ^ probably most important. All the power in the world, is useless without the tires to lay it down.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 09-19-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

I don't get it, what are you saying???

Just kidding and I was simply trying to be a bit facetious with all the suggested mods. I'm with you! You could leave the seats in using a titanium roll bar.

Could even let MikeOD drive!

Hell, he can ride shotgun...

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Originally Posted by SSOOCH

Outrun? 1/4 Mile? Top end?

Yes....

camarovigoa · 09-19-2011, 11:20 PM

i have seen the zr1 run 12s in the 1/4 mile because of traction issues but if that zr1 grips about 590-610 rwhp considering you have traction as well

stock00ss · 09-19-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SSOOCH

Outrun? 1/4 Mile? Top end?

More details please?

Just a simple 30 or 50 mph kick, up to about 160.

camarovigoa · 09-19-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

After you get that 650 rwhp, plan on forging everything under the hood, new tranny, driveshaft, dif, wheels, tires, suspension, etc... Strip the interior out and put a carbon fiber body on... And find an 80 lb driver.

i have 590 rwhp and im pretty sure i can take a zr1 in the drag strip i weigh 160 lb my camaro has stock weight maybe more now stock transmission stock internals except for the cam and i have my full interior.

camarovigoa · 09-19-2011, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stock00ss

Just a simple 30 or 50 mph kick, up to about 160.

nope top end the a zr1 would kill me

lil_chef · 09-20-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stock00ss

Just a simple 30 or 50 mph kick, up to about 160.

i would say at least 650 rwhp. not only do you have a weight disadvantage you also have a huge aerodynamic disadvantage.

woodstock · 09-20-2011, 11:22 AM

I find it hard to believe you have 573 rear wheel Hp,but if you did ,Well the ZR1 nets out at 638 that equates to about 540-550 Rear wheel HP with a weight difference of about 700 pounds you need at least 90 additional HP.

IROCanSS · 09-20-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by woodstock

I find it hard to believe you have 573 rear wheel Hp,but if you did ,Well the ZR1 nets out at 638 that equates to about 540-550 Rear wheel HP with a weight difference of about 700 pounds you need at least 90 additional HP.

573 rwhp is easily attainable if he's supercharged... which he must be.

To the OP, I'm sorry but you're losing if you run to 160. I had a C6, sold it for the Camaro. One thing I miss about the C6 is the stability at high speeds. You could cruise at 130 and the car would crouch down and feel right at home. Now a Camaro at 130... You'll be backing off quick, the body shape isn't meant for those speeds. Can it, sure but you're comparing a wedge to a block. Give it up and secumb to the fact your buddy with the ZR1 has a WAY faster car... period!

Camaro disadvantages:

Hp
Tq
Gearing
Weight
Suspension
Tires
Aerodynamics

ZR1 disadvantages

The ZR1 badge on the back is ugly and looks like an afterthought... get familiar with that badge, it's all you're going to see.

woodstock · 09-20-2011, 11:38 AM

I have to agree ,even my C-5 feels comfortable at 160 MPh which I ran on a road track in Savannah,and the peddle had room for more.

IROCanSS · 09-20-2011, 11:53 AM

C5 is no slouch at all, it is a quick car... 350 hp and so light, I had a C5 before the C6 and I really liked it. My C6 was only an LS2 so it only had 50 more hp.

09-19-2011, 10:54 AM	#1
stock00ss Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Birmingham Posts: 173 View My Garage	how much rwhp to outrun zr1? How much rwhp will it take for my camaro to outrun a zr1 from a 30 roll? I have 573 rwhp and 596rwtq.

09-19-2011, 12:25 PM	#3
Mr CLuTcH Always On Kill! Drives: S.I.M. SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 780	Not only do you need about as much rwhp because of the ZR1's weight, you will also need ALOT of traction to put all that power to the ground or else he will just walk you. Even from a roll of any kind you still need to have some great tires that will grip like a tiger and a good suspension setup to help it all work in unison. Whatever tires comes on the Z06 Centennial editions wouldn't be a bad idea, but I don' think the tread life last very long though. __________________ S.I.M. SS(L99): American Racing Headers (LT) Magnaflow cat-back competition exhaust K&N typhoon CAI Aggressive cam. Tune Result*: 465rwhp/ 447rwtq. Satisfied.

09-19-2011, 01:43 PM	#5
maxdmax Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: East KY Posts: 756 View My Garage	I know 616 RWHP and a good set of Mickey Thompson D/R will do it, but it will be close if both can drive. __________________ LPE 417 - TVS2300 787 RWHP 759 Torque - Built by WWW.KYSPEED.COM

09-19-2011, 07:27 PM	#8
AZ MSCL Drives: 2009 Challenger RT, 2010 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 718	After you get that 650 rwhp, plan on forging everything under the hood, new tranny, driveshaft, dif, wheels, tires, suspension, etc... Strip the interior out and put a carbon fiber body on... And find an 80 lb driver. __________________ AZ MSCL: 2009 Challenger RT, 2010 Mustang GT Premium.

09-19-2011, 11:00 PM	#14
SSOOCH "El Dictator" Drives: 08 HHR SS, 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,366 View My Garage	Outrun? 1/4 Mile? Top end? More details please? __________________

09-19-2011, 01:16 PM	#4
stock00ss Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Birmingham Posts: 173 View My Garage	Well, I'm definitely going to need some better tires, but I'm done modding for now. So, I'm just gonna line up and see what happens.

09-19-2011, 04:43 PM	#6
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,109	big bank account is what it will take.

09-19-2011, 05:30 PM	#7
Jcobra Drives: 2010 2ss/rs M6 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Il Posts: 931	1000!

09-19-2011, 11:20 PM	#17
camarovigoa 2013 Camaro ZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Victory Red Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Miami FL Posts: 1,925 View My Garage	i have seen the zr1 run 12s in the 1/4 mile because of traction issues but if that zr1 grips about 590-610 rwhp considering you have traction as well __________________ BEST TIME SO FAR 9.9@137 SOLD

09-20-2011, 11:22 AM	#22
woodstock Drives: 2012 Corvette Grand Sport Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: martinez Ga. Posts: 447	I find it hard to believe you have 573 rear wheel Hp,but if you did ,Well the ZR1 nets out at 638 that equates to about 540-550 Rear wheel HP with a weight difference of about 700 pounds you need at least 90 additional HP.

09-20-2011, 11:38 AM	#24
woodstock Drives: 2012 Corvette Grand Sport Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: martinez Ga. Posts: 447	I have to agree ,even my C-5 feels comfortable at 160 MPh which I ran on a road track in Savannah,and the peddle had room for more.

09-20-2011, 11:53 AM	#25
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,521 View My Garage	C5 is no slouch at all, it is a quick car... 350 hp and so light, I had a C5 before the C6 and I really liked it. My C6 was only an LS2 so it only had 50 more hp.

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