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Old 02-23-2012, 11:45 PM   #1
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C5FIII Track Rules - Drag (2012NHRA) & AutoX

Drag Racing

There are two primary objectives for Drag Racing.

#1 SAFETY
#2 FUN

Here are a few things you may not think are important for the Drags, but...

Sun Screen
Hydration -- Lots of WATER
Friends
Snacks
Water
Water
Water

PROTECTIVE CLOTHING
Full-length pants; short- or long-sleeved shirt; closed shoes; and
socks. No shorts. No tank tops. No open-toe or open-heel shoes or
sandals. Synthetic clothing not recommended. Jacket and pants
meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/1 mandatory in AA/S through M/S, AA/SA
through M/SA, and in any vehicle running 11.49 or quicker. SFI
Spec 3.3/1 gloves mandatory in any vehicle running 9.99 or quicker.
See General Regulations 10:10.

HELMET
For all 10.00 and slower cars, either an open-face or a full-face
Snell M2005, M2010, K2005, SA2000, SA2005, SA2010,
SFI 31.2A, or 41.2A helmet mandatory; shield permitted (goggles
prohibited).
For all 9.99 and quicker cars, a full-face Snell M2005,
M2010, K2005, SA2000, SA2005, SA2010, SFI 31.2A, or 41.2A
helmet mandatory; shield permitted (goggles prohibited). See
General Regulations 10:7.

The NHRA 2012 Rule Book Reads as follows for Helmets and Goggles:
As outlined under Class Requirements, drivers in all classes, including motorcycles, must wear a helmet meeting Snell or SFI Specifications.



SFI Spec 31.1A = Snell SA, open-face helmet
SFI Spec 31.2A = Snell SA, full-face helmet
SFI Spec 41.1A = Snell M, open-face helmet
SFI Spec 41.2A = Snell M , full-face helmet

Effective Jan. 1, 2008, full face helmet mandatory on all cars 9.99 or quicker. See Individual Class Requirements for additional requirements. Shield mandatory 7.49 & quicker.
E.T. cars (13.99 or quicker) must use a helmet meeting Snell 2005, 2007 or SFI 31.1A, 31.2A, 31.1/2005, 41.1A, 41.2A or 41.1/2005 Specs. Drivers in supercharged, front-engine, open-bodied cars and Funny Cars must wear a helmet meeting Snell SA2005 or SFI 31.1A, 31.2A, or 31.1/2005 Specs. See Class Requirements.

Modifications to helmet/shield are prohibited. All helmets must have the appropriate certification sticker affixed inside the helmet.

ALL POWER ADDER RACERS WITH N0N-OEM/FACTORY POWER ADDERS IE:SUPERCHARGERS,TURBOCHARGERS,OR THE USE OF NITROUS. SECTION 1A,PAGE 65 OF THE 2009 NHRA RULEBOOK READS AS FOLLOWS. "10.00(*6.40 1/8 MILE) AND SLOWER; ALL E.T.NON-OEM SUPERCHARGER,NON-OEM TURBOCHARGED, OR NITROUS-EQUIPPED CARS WITH AN OEM OR .024-INCH STEEL FIREWALL: JACKET MEETING SFI SPEC 3.2A/1 MANDATORY. " THESE JACKETS ARE AFFORDABLE. THIS RULE WILL BE ENFORCED!

NECK COLLAR
Neck collar meeting SFI Spec 3.3 mandatory in any vehicle running
9.99 (*6.39) or quicker or exceeding 135 mph. A head and neck
restraint device/system may be used in lieu of a neck collar. See
General Regulations 10:8.

ROLL BARS
Roll bar mandatory in all cars (including T-tops) running 11.00
(*7.00) to 11.49 (*7.35), in convertibles running 11.00 (*7.00) to
13.49 (*8.25), and in all dune-buggy-type vehicles running 12.00
(*7.50) seconds and slower. Permitted in all cars. See General
Regulations 4:10, 10:6.

ROLL CAGE
Roll cage mandatory in cars running 10.99 (*6.99) or quicker or any
car exceeding 135 mph. In full-bodied cars, with unaltered firewall,
floor, and body (from firewall rearward, wheeltubs permitted),
running between 10.00 (*6.40) and 10.99 (*6.99), roll bar permitted
in place of roll cage. In convertibles running 10.99 or quicker or
exceeding 135 mph, roll cage mandatory. Cars running between
7.50 (*4.50) and 9.99 (*6.39) must have chassis recertified every
three years by NHRA and have a serialized sticker affixed to cage
before participation. Plating of chassis prohibited for all cars
manufactured after Jan. 1, 2003. Rear-engine dragsters must
conform to SFI Spec 2.7B; vehicles running 8.49 (*5.35) to 7.50
(*4.50) and/or exceeding 180 mph must meet appropriate SFI Spec
for body used. Effective Jan. 1, 2007, all new Street Roadsters must
conform to SFI Spec 10.4. Existing Street Roadsters must meet SFI
Spec 10.4 at their next scheduled recertification effective Jan. 1,
2008. No existing cars will be recertified early to delay compliance.
All others must conform to specs for body style used, as listed in
General Regulations 4:11, 10:6.ET.

ROLL-CAGE PADDING
Roll-cage padding meeting SFI Spec 45.1 mandatory on any
vehicle running 9.99 and quicker. Padding must be used anywhere
driver’s helmet may come in contact with roll-cage components.
See General Regulations 4:11, 10:6.

PARACHUTE
Mandatory on any car that runs 150 mph or faster. See General
Regulations 4:8.

Auto X

There are two primary objectives for the Autocross.

#1 SAFETY
#2 FUN

Here are a few things you may not think are important for an autocross, but...

Sun Screen
Chairs
Hydration -- Lots of WATER
Friends
Snacks
Water
Water
Water

Classes

Stock -- That means Stock. No CAI, wheel, tire, engine, brake, suspension, exhaust modifications or tunes.

Modified -- Vehicles with tunes, moderate engine mods, suspension upgrades...

ZL1 -- STOCK ZL1

Super Modified -- You are automatically in this class with built motors, supercharger and or tires with a treadwear rating of 200 or less.

Exhibition -- Any and all vehicles owned by a company or driven by a 'shoe'

Awards

1st Place – Stock
2nd Place – Stock
3rd Place – Stock
1st Place - Modified
2nd Place – Modified
3rd Place – Modified
1st Place - ZL1
2nd Place - ZL1
3rd Place - ZL1
1st Place – Super Modified
2nd Place – Super Modified
3rd Place – Super Modified
Fastest 3 Lap Average
Fastest Time of Day
Most Cones
Most Improved

Equipment and Tech

  1. Helmets are Required, if you don't have one try to borrow one. Snell 2005 2010 SA rated helmets (closed and open face) are acceptable. Bring your own helmet or make arrangements to share one. There will be NO SCCA loaners. If you have spare helmets and are willing to share please bring it. If you have access to a batch of SCCA rental helmets please let us know!
  2. Your Camaro must be empty. If it isn't bolted down it shouldn't be in the car.
  3. No drivers side floor mats are allowed.
  4. No drips or leaks are acceptable.
  5. Your battery and every thing under the hood and in the trunk must be bolted down securely.
  6. Your tires will have to pass the Lincoln test, unless they are slicks.

Autocross Staffing

We have NO SCCA support for the event. To make the event run smoothly we need Camaro5 member help.

  • Drivers MUST work the corners. If you do not support the event as a corner worker, you will NOT drive in the event.
  • Pedders and a few of our Dealers will staff the Autocross, but we cannot do it alone.
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:44 AM   #2
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Any questions you may have ask in this thread and well get them answered for you ASAP...
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:02 AM   #3
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How much time will we be required to work the corners if we are a driver. I am cool with it, but need to know so I can plan time around events and family?

Should I bring my windshield washer fluid for the other cars while I am working the corners? Will they tip?
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:23 AM   #4
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How much time will we be required to work the corners if we are a driver. I am cool with it, but need to know so I can plan time around events and family?

Should I bring my windshield washer fluid for the other cars while I am working the corners? Will they tip?
During your driving session, there will be some down time so we'll rotate drivers around during their session. Drive, corner, drive, tech, drive, timing, something like that is what I'm seeing.

Cool?
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:27 AM   #5
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What are the dates and times for both autox and drag?
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:30 AM   #6
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3, 4 August........ Autocross will have AM session and PM session both days. I don't know about the drag lanes, but should be similar.
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:52 AM   #7
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During your driving session, there will be some down time so we'll rotate drivers around during their session. Drive, corner, drive, tech, drive, timing, something like that is what I'm seeing.

Cool?
Absolutely!
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:38 AM   #8
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So another words if you are planning to do both Auto-x and drag racing youll need a Snell Rated SA2005/2010 correct? Because the rating is good for both events.
So something like this should be fine for both events corrsect? Disregard the helmet size
http://www.jegs.com/i/G-FORCE/471/3021LRGBK/10002/-1
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:39 AM   #9
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I don't have a sticker inside my helmet but I do have a Snell M2005 certified sticker on the outside of my helmet. It's a full faced motorcycle helmet. I'm assuming it will be fine because I've used it before, but wasn't sure if they'd give me grief since nothing is affixed inside the helmet.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:44 PM   #10
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can you have a passenger in the drag and autox events?
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so i can use a M2005 helmet in drag racing where im going 120mph next to concrete barriers but cant use it in autox where I'm going much slower near rubber cones?
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so a helmet is required on the drag strip, no matter what your times are?
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Okay, now I am totally confused. :( I thought I had it, now,................well, not so much. I am resigned to buying a helmet. But some of the OP is over my head. So let's start with this:

PROTECTIVE CLOTHING
Full-length pants; short- or long-sleeved shirt; closed shoes; and
socks. No shorts. No tank tops. No open-toe or open-heel shoes or
sandals. Synthetic clothing not recommended. Jacket and pants
meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/1 mandatory in AA/S through M/S, AA/SA
through M/SA, and in any vehicle running 11.49 or quicker. SFI
Spec 3.3/1 gloves mandatory in any vehicle running 9.99 or quicker.
See General Regulations 10:10.

translation please. Do I just need to borrow my nephew's racing suit to be safe. Do we have to dress like that in the corner work? If so I will roast. At least with the suit I could just take it off & have shorts underneath if it is permitted.
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Okay, now I am totally confused. :( I thought I had it, now,................well, not so much. I am resigned to buying a helmet. But some of the OP is over my head. So let's start with this:

PROTECTIVE CLOTHING
Full-length pants; short- or long-sleeved shirt; closed shoes; and
socks. No shorts. No tank tops. No open-toe or open-heel shoes or
sandals. Synthetic clothing not recommended. Jacket and pants
meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/1 mandatory in AA/S through M/S, AA/SA
through M/SA, and in any vehicle running 11.49 or quicker. SFI
Spec 3.3/1 gloves mandatory in any vehicle running 9.99 or quicker.
See General Regulations 10:10.
Sounds like if your car runs 11.49 or quicker you only have to worry about this.

translation please. Do I just need to borrow my nephew's racing suit to be safe. Do we have to dress like that in the corner work? If so I will roast. At least with the suit I could just take it off & have shorts underneath if it is permitted.
I bet we can wear regular clothes to do corners. But when it comes race time, Make sure you wear the correct attire. i.e.
Full-length pants; short- or long-sleeved shirt; closed shoes; and
socks. No shorts. No tank tops. No open-toe or open-heel shoes or
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Okay but, uh I'm not a guy. I can't just change clothes anywhere. Okay, I was in Band in high school & learned some pretty creative clothes changing skills but, I don't want to try to put shorts on under jeans. That's why I say it might just be easier to wear the race suit with shorts & tank top under it, then I can just take it off.
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Okay but, uh I'm not a guy. I can't just change clothes anywhere. Okay, I was in Band in high school & learned some pretty creative clothes changing skills but, I don't want to try to put shorts on under jeans. That's why I say it might just be easier to wear the race suit with shorts & tank top under it, then I can just take it off.
I missed that last part lol my bad.
Maybe someone can chime in with some other options
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There are several "large" restrooms all around the track to use for changing. You are not stuck to changing clothes in the Blue Port-a-stink-pots.
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with my lil V6...

Helmet, T-shirt, jeans, shoes...shorts underneath for when I'm done!
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Ruby, have you had your car to a track to see what times it will run? My guess if it is a stock V6 you will be safe with a pair of blue jeans, normal pair of shoes, a normal long sleeved shirt and a helmet. "Most" track will not say too much if your car runs in the 14 second and slower range and really don't get "too" picky as long as you have a helmet and are running in the 13 second range. They will get after you to wear the "tech" clothing and everything else if your car is running 11.49 and quicker but I really don't think that this will count for you. Hope this helps you out a little. Come and have fun!!!!
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What do you mean when you say working the corners?
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What do you mean when you say working the corners?
The autocross is purely being run by volunteers. We need help with corners, tech, timing, etc etc. During your driving session you will drive, work cones, drive, help with timing, drive, work corner.

Check out the AutoX thread.

I know this helmet thing is kicking everyone's a$$. AutoCross requires the SA 2005 2010 helmet, which has been established.

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Ruby, have you had your car to a track to see what times it will run? My guess if it is a stock V6 you will be safe with a pair of blue jeans, normal pair of shoes, a normal long sleeved shirt and a helmet. "Most" track will not say too much if your car runs in the 14 second and slower range and really don't get "too" picky as long as you have a helmet and are running in the 13 second range. They will get after you to wear the "tech" clothing and everything else if your car is running 11.49 and quicker but I really don't think that this will count for you. Hope this helps you out a little. Come and have fun!!!!
Also, I don't think it has to be jeans, right? You could wear some sweats or track pants........right? Easier to slip off.......
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Okay I'll think on it. Most gym type pants these days are however at least in part synthetic (so they will stretch) but then so are most jeans.
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Okay I'll think on it. Most gym type pants these days are however at least in part synthetic (so they will stretch) but then so are most jeans.
Don't know about you girl, but my jeans won't stretch over shorts

I'll probably just find a place to change! Maybe we need to have a portable changing tent for our many outfits


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"ALL POWER ADDER RACERS WITH N0N-OEM/FACTORY POWER ADDERS IE:SUPERCHARGERS,TURBOCHARGERS,OR THE USE OF NITROUS. SECTION 1A,PAGE 65 OF THE 2009 NHRA RULEBOOK READS AS FOLLOWS. "10.00(*6.40 1/8 MILE) AND SLOWER; ALL E.T.NON-OEM SUPERCHARGER,NON-OEM TURBOCHARGED, OR NITROUS-EQUIPPED CARS WITH AN OEM OR .024-INCH STEEL FIREWALL: JACKET MEETING SFI SPEC 3.2A/1 MANDATORY. " THESE JACKETS ARE AFFORDABLE. THIS RULE WILL BE ENFORCED!"

Does this mean all supercharged cars, excluding the ZL1, regardless of E.T.,the driver, must wear a jacket?

Any one have links on these jackets?
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