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Old 09-25-2011, 01:57 PM   #1
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Roto-fab or CAI

Im going to purchase a cold air intake but I want to know the pros and cons for a Roto-fab and a CAI system. Let me know what you guys think.
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Old 09-25-2011, 02:07 PM   #2
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Im pondering the same question. From what I see besides the initial price youve also got to buy separate washer bottles and air scoops for the CAI.
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Old 09-25-2011, 02:30 PM   #3
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I did not know you had to relocate the washer bottle for the CAI... that sucks.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:08 PM   #4
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Just looked up CAI on youtube, you Dont need any other relocating items. Its a direct replacement bolt on. Looks to be about a 20 minute deal. The washer jar stays where its at. Im going to shop for and buy one this week.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:15 PM   #5
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Heres the power increase of each.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:40 PM   #6
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The CAI ind. had the best HP increase of any of the CAI's that were tested awhile back by Janetty. The CAI ind. is simple to install and there is no need to move anything. To me the best thing about the one from CAI Ind.,.... not only does it look great,.... it performs even better.
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Old 09-25-2011, 07:26 PM   #7
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You won't get any significant gains from a cai. I have a LS3 with the CAI Inc and had it checked on the dyno yesterday. Basically netted me about 4 RWHP. I completely removed my wiper bottle so it can pull maximum air from the bottom. Bill from CAI guaranteed that I would get 15 HP using their cai. I stated the question specifically to him based on statements he made about the gains from their intake. Yeah, not so much.

Another guy from my club with an SS and LS3, roto-fab, and HF cats pulled 20 RWHP more than me. He had Solo cats and those are supposed to net you about 20 HP. So based on that, I'd say the Roto-fab came in about the same as the CAI intake.

IMO, you want a bigger bang for your buck, replace the cats. About the only noticeable benefit is a crisper throttle response with the intake. But for $350 to $400, cats give you more HP gain. Regarding which cai, I prefer the CAI Inc intake over the Roto-fab. I like the idea of having a sealed top, not using my hood to seal the top of the air box. But both are well made.
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:10 AM   #9
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Seems like more people have the CAI than the roto fab or the roto fab owners just don't want to chime in.
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Old 09-26-2011, 02:03 AM   #10
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+1 for CAI. Does not require relocation of the washer bottle, unless you install the ADM or Apex scoop which comes with the new bottle. I made 384 HP/378 TQ with just the CAI intake on my LS3 Camaro.
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i also recommend CAI. like someone else said, it had good numbers compared to the rest of the CAI's tested, but also, IMO it looks the best!!!

i installed one on my brand new 2012 SS recently. it was the first thing I did. it's really simple to install, it just replaces the old air-box. i had a local chevy dealer install it for me and it only took about 20 mins. the guy that installed it at chevy said that out of all the other one's he's installed, this was by far the best one. he really liked the sealed air box system.

very happy with my CAI, inc. intake

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Old 09-26-2011, 08:21 AM   #12
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Im going to purchase a cold air intake but I want to know the pros and cons for a Roto-fab and a CAI system. Let me know what you guys think.
I wouldn't say either have any cons. Both are built well, look awesome and make power.
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:09 AM   #13
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Im going to purchase a cold air intake but I want to know the pros and cons for a Roto-fab and a CAI system. Let me know what you guys think.
Here is a little bit about us:

Cold Air Inductions, Inc. intake systems benefits:

: Tig welded aluminum air box (high luster finish reflects radiant heat)

: Insulated air box (this adding another layer of thermal (convection) protection)

: Aluminum lid with stainless steel ¼ turn fasteners (fast filter removal)

: Viewing window for fast easy filter inspection.

: High Luster ceramic coated intake tube (coated inside and out, yet another layer of thermal protection)

: Smooth bore (88.9 mm) intake tube construction (this minimizes bends and restrictions within the system)

: 8” V-stack air filter with built in velocity stack (helps reduce turbulence for truer MAF reading)

: 8 layer air filter (maximizing filtration for prolonged engine life

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We have sold thousands of intakes, have thousands of happy customers, and incorporate design features that make our system a true Cold Air Intake. We see great #’s on the Dyno as well as the track, and can keep our intake temps within 2 degrees of ambient air due to our design features.

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Im pondering the same question. From what I see besides the initial price youve also got to buy separate washer bottles and air scoops for the CAI.
NOT CORRECT. Our system is a bolt on unit that requires no additional modifications, no relocating of anything and no tune. Let me know if you have any questions!!
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:58 AM   #14
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Here is a link to more info as well as our latest testing results.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...oto-fab+closer

Our intake is chosen by many of the top tuners in the country and abroad. These are reputable companies which have done their own testing and purchase from us based on their findings. These companies don't post comments on this board or elsewhere about Roto-fab products in particular. However, if you look at the high HP cars out there, you will notice our intake on many of them.
I would agree CAI Inc owners are more vocal on this forum and/or there are more CAI owners on this forum. They make a good intake-it would be nice if we had the only quality intake out there, but we all know that's not the case. At the same time, I know we have thousands of Camaro intakes out in the field, we ship them every day and feedback on our system continues to be very good. We offer a very high quality intake which comes standard with a high gloss powder coat finish on the air box, quality/high gloss silicone hoses that will not dry rot, stainless steel hose clamps and an American made filter. Our system is designed to install easily with no mods to your vehicle, look good and perform great. It will make your Camaro sound like a Camaro too!
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Old 09-26-2011, 12:17 PM   #16
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+1 for CAI. Does not require relocation of the washer bottle, unless you install the ADM or Apex scoop which comes with the new bottle. I made 384 HP/378 TQ with just the CAI intake on my LS3 Camaro.
Do you have a dyno sheet showing the before and after the CAI? It should be on the same dyno and preferable done the same day. If you don't know where you were at before the install, then your HP number is meaningless in comparing yours to others unless done on the same dyno. Different dynos generate different numbers. You can use the number as a baseline for the next mod you do, and that's about it.

A stock LS3 puts out in the area of 362 RWHP. So based on your number it implies the CAI netted you 20+ HP. I doubt it.
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i also recommend CAI. like someone else said, it had good numbers compared to the rest of the CAI's tested, but also, IMO it looks the best!!!

i installed one on my brand new 2012 SS recently. it was the first thing I did. it's really simple to install, it just replaces the old air-box. i had a local chevy dealer install it for me and it only took about 20 mins. the guy that installed it at chevy said that out of all the other one's he's installed, this was by far the best one. he really liked the sealed air box system.

very happy with my CAI, inc. intake

The black CAI really looks nice on your car. I think this will be my next move. I'm counting on Santa to hook me up. I've already started droping hints to the wife.
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:18 PM   #19
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The black CAI really looks nice on your car. I think this will be my next move. I'm counting on Santa to hook me up. I've already started droping hints to the wife.
I cant wait for Santa, Im ordering one today. Thanks for the input guys. I see theyre both good but its CAI for me.
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I cant wait for Santa, Im ordering one today. Thanks for the input guys. I see theyre both good but its CAI for me.
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I have the CAI but with that being said you can't go wrong with either one. Both are quality intakes.
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:05 PM   #23
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It's a tough choice. They both look great IMO. But I'm gonna end up going with a CAI. Thanks for all the feedback!
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Do you have a dyno sheet showing the before and after the CAI? It should be on the same dyno and preferable done the same day. If you don't know where you were at before the install, then your HP number is meaningless in comparing yours to others unless done on the same dyno. Different dynos generate different numbers. You can use the number as a baseline for the next mod you do, and that's about it.

A stock LS3 puts out in the area of 362 RWHP. So based on your number it implies the CAI netted you 20+ HP. I doubt it.
Guess I forgot to mention that I did not have a baseline done before installing the CAI, so what my car made initially bone stock is a mystery which even I wonder at times, lol. A local forum happened to have a dyno day and I came out just to throw my car up there to see what it would put down and it put down those numbers on a nice and cool 103 degree TX day . You are right about different dynos putting out different numbers, so someones results may be different from mine. Like you might have gotten more than a 4 HP gain if you had run on the dyno I was on and vice versa I might have made less than what I did on your dyno. In no way did I intend to want to lead people on that I made 20+ HP on just an intake, since I personally do not know what I gained, I just know I gained something .

So to answer your question, I do have the dyno sheet for after the CAI, but not for before when it was stock.
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