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Old 09-29-2011, 08:51 AM   #1
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Question texas speed headers. boots hitting headers on drivers side!!

i just installed a set of texas speed long tube headers on my 2ss ls3. i have a quick question for anyone with these headers. on the drivers side the 2 middle spark plug boots are just barely touching the headers. is this normal????? i am assuming so as everything fit great. thanks


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Old 09-29-2011, 02:36 PM   #2
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:42 PM   #3
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DO YOUR 2 MIDDLE PLUGS TOUCH ON THE DRIVERS SIDE?
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:49 PM   #5
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You really need some high-temp wires anyway (Granatelli, MTI, etc.) to go with your headers. That will fix your problem because they provide more clearance at the boot.
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i just installed a set of texas speed long tube headers on my 2ss ls3. i have a quick question for anyone with these headers. on the drivers side the 2 middle spark plug boots are just barely touching the headers. is this normal????? i am assuming so as everything fit great. thanks

We have never experienced this with any of the major brand Headers, but is fairly simple to get around.

You could do a set of MSD wires, the spark plug boots are bendable so you could put a 30 or 45 degree bend and give yourself plenty of clearance for under 80 bucks

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Old 09-29-2011, 03:29 PM   #7
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Get some aftermarket wires, like Jannetty suggested.
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Old 09-29-2011, 03:42 PM   #8
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THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP GUYS. IM GOING TO BUY A SET OF WIRES
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:29 PM   #9
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I helped do an install of these headers on a freinds car. He had the same issue as you. He went with some plug wires from MTI and had no further issue.
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It gets tight on the really wide part of the plug wire nowhere near the internal wiring. I trimmed my wire just slightly for better clearance, but either way it won't give you any issues at all. The stock wires are crazy thick right at the top there.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:46 PM   #11
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That could be a picture of my TSP header install. Same issue. Was going to replace the wires with MSDs at some point.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:42 PM   #12
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Mine was just like this after installing the TSP headers. It's a great excuse to get a set of color matched MTI wires.
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We have never experienced this with any of the major brand Headers, but is fairly simple to get around.

You could do a set of MSD wires, the spark plug boots are bendable so you could put a 30 or 45 degree bend and give yourself plenty of clearance for under 80 bucks

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Was lookin at your site, any big difference between the MSD wires and Granatelli wires?
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Was lookin at your site, any big difference between the MSD wires and Granatelli wires?
Our primary wire is MSD mostly because they are a great wire at a reasonable price.

If you want a Premium wire you have to choose Granatelli wires.

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i'm definitely going to buy a set of wires......i just wanted to make sure other people that installed long tubes were having the same issue.
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:39 AM   #16
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Our primary wire is MSD mostly because they are a great wire at a reasonable price.

If you want a Premium wire you have to choose Granatelli wires.

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Old 10-31-2011, 10:17 AM   #17
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The MSD is what you want in this case. It has a multi angle head that you can bend away from that header primary. It is a premium wire at a better price and we offer it with different levels of heat protection.
This is a very common issue and why we offer a free set of MSD to anyone buying headers from us.
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:45 PM   #18
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The MSD is what you want in this case. It has a multi angle head that you can bend away from that header primary. It is a premium wire at a better price and we offer it with different levels of heat protection.
This is a very common issue and why we offer a free set of MSD to anyone buying headers from us.
well...if you order the 28-1545HT wires from GMS, you get the straight flexible boots with the 1400^ sleeves nothing could be worse than a TBSS and lots of guys run our wires HT in those apps
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We offer the same thing for less money

The sleeving is good to 1400 radiant the black cool sock is good to 1400 contact, the salmon colored boot is good to 700 radiant and the grey boot 400 radiant...
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:39 AM   #20
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Hey its your thread - sorry. I was just trying to help and say there are options. Naturally Texas Speed could make the sale -

You can't beat perfect - 0 ohms baby!!!

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We both know there is no difference between a 0 ohm wire and a 40 ohm wire or even a 100 or 300 ohm wire at 8" long. I have not seen any real proof yet to show otherwise.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:26 PM   #22
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Ok I'll rephrase there is no performance difference at all in an 8" long wire with 0 ohm 40 ohm 200 ohm or 300 ohms resistance. ( gm hotwires are 300-400 I believe and are considered and upgrade because they are red) Wires degrade for a few reasons. Replacing degraded wires will result in improved performance. Or in the case of Tom's car plugging them in all the way. I'm not going to argue about it, its been debated to death on Corvette forum ... with the guys who are electrical engineers and master techs... Ask Bill Curlee what he thinks about it......LOL
Hi heat protection, custom lengths, superior construction is what we preach when we sell our wires.
I'll drop form this thread now so we dont debate the issue anymore.. you can add what you want
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Shouldn't be any issues with the boots lightly contacting the headers. I put 40k miles on my 2002 T/A with the boots contacting my Pacesetter headers with zero problems.

As far as plug wire continuity is concerned: less resistance in the wire means less voltage drop, which means more energy available at the plug. Enough of a difference to show a power gain over another aftermarket wire, or even the stock ones? I wouldn't think so, but that's just the opinion of an electrical engineer without dyno testing to back it up, so take that with a grain of salt I guess.

Also, keep in mind that the stock wires are resistive to minimize radiated RF that could potentially interfere with radio reception or other on-board electronics. It's not difficult to build a low-resistance wire- that resistance is engineered to be there. Which isn't to say that a low impedance wire will necessarily result in RF interference issues- it's just and explanation of why the stock wires are so resistive.
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Now we're talk'n The GMS wires are covered by 2 patents. We run solid stainless cable for a 0 ohm drop then to counter EMI and RFI we have the 2 patents on the suppression system
Cool.

Can you elaborate on the suppression system?
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