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Old 04-12-2010, 08:28 PM   #1
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Why are HID headlamps so expensive?

Headlamp assy Left - W/hid - W/hid
2010 $808.36
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:29 PM   #2
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Because they are HID.

The ones on my benz were like $1,200 a piece, so consider yourself lucky lol
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:32 PM   #3
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If you think that's expensive, just go to SEARS and buy a lot of maglite flashlights with LED in them and replace your HIDs.. cheaper and plus it just looks cool changing your lights out with AA batteries every couple of days.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:50 PM   #4
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plus hids last a lot longer then regular bulbs so cost to time is about the same a little more but i like the fact i can see a lot better at night
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:58 PM   #5
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because they are made out of a special material that you can only get from the moon....shipping costs are a bitch.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:48 PM   #6
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Has anyone had to replace these halos yet? What is the average life span of them?
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:54 PM   #7
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because they are made out of a special material that you can only get from the moon....shipping costs are a bitch.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:59 PM   #8
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Has anyone had to replace these halos yet? What is the average life span of them?
The HIDs and Halos are seperate items.

I just had the 8000K ORACLE Bi-Xenon Conversion Kit and SMD 5202 Fog Light bulbs installed on my daughter's camaro.
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I will admit...shamefully...that I had an accident in my Camaro. She's all better now (really she is!) but I will never forget looking at the bill and seeing that the lamp cost $800. Total damage was $5000, the lamp was more than my deductible!
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They are true HID, not just a blue bulb. They create a plasma arc and require a sophisticated ballast that creates high voltage alternating current. Almost everything you see sold as HID, xenon, etc, is really just a blue filament bulb and those are $20-50 a set.


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Old 04-13-2010, 01:08 AM   #11
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They are true HID, not just a blue bulb. They create a plasma arc and require a sophisticated ballast that creates high voltage alternating current. Almost everything you see sold as HID, xenon, etc, is really just a blue filament bulb and those are $20-50 a set.
Oracle Bi-Xenon is a true HID with ballast. Xenon is the gas used in the light where an arc is made. It is not a colored halogen.
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I just mean that if you google xenon HID you will mostly find filament bulbs. Marketing is flooded with those terms for non-HID. It looks like Oracle is an official sponsor here, and is true HID.

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Old 04-13-2010, 07:31 AM   #13
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I just mean that if you google xenon HID you will mostly find filament bulbs. Marketing is flooded with those terms for non-HID. It looks like Oracle is an official sponsor here, and is true HID.
The bulb and ballest may be true. But the housing is not. THe other part of that expense is the projector, Which projects the light correctly with out blinding other people. Sticking HIDS in your halogen housing is just stupid.
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:52 AM   #14
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The bulb and ballest may be true. But the housing is not. THe other part of that expense is the projector, Which projects the light correctly with out blinding other people. Sticking HIDS in your halogen housing is just stupid.
Have to disagree that it's just stupid. Done it to a few previous cars and depending on the car, it can still look great and was never blinding. Depends on on the car and the lamp housing.

But generally speaking, the ballast and bulbs are pretty cheap now. I remember like 10 years ago when trying to get a kit for my 95 M3 was over a grand or so. Just a couple of years ago I had an RSX and a kit was about $100. When I put in a HID into my Gixxer it was like $70, being it's just 1 balast and bulb. What can be expensive is OEM or high quality housing, such as the projector. All depends. Depending on who you go with, there can be a huge markup on various parts.
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Because they are HID.

The ones on my benz were like $1,200 a piece, so consider yourself lucky lol
IM willing to bet your benz had self leveling headlights though. Which drives the price up even more.
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:13 AM   #16
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:18 AM   #17
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Sticking HIDS in your halogen housing is just stupid.
That's your opinion.

I have the AAC Bi-Xenon kit in my Halogens and there is nothing wrong with them at all. They have a distinct cut off line that doesn't get in the eyes of oncoming traffic.

The cheap HID kits probably aren't nearly as good but if you buy from a reputable place like AAC or BfXenon you'll get a good product.
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I read someplace the HID lights are supposed to last the life of your vehicle.

Obviously that doesn't work if say they get smashed out.

My metal halide lights I got for my aquarium were also real expensive.
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:33 AM   #19
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That's your opinion.

I have the AAC Bi-Xenon kit in my Halogens and there is nothing wrong with them at all. They have a distinct cut off line that doesn't get in the eyes of oncoming traffic.

The cheap HID kits probably aren't nearly as good but if you buy from a reputable place like AAC or BfXenon you'll get a good product.
the only place quality matters on a "kit" is on the reliability and longevity. Its still a xenon arc instead of a filament and that screws up the beam. It may look ok. But a projector is always going to be better. The reflector HIDS use a different reflector to work with the arc. Your housing were not designed for the arc. Yes with new cars its defiantly better. But its no comparison when you drive a car with stock HIDS.
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plus hids last a lot longer then regular bulbs so cost to time is about the same
Yep. HID's will almost last forever (well most of us will either be dead or our grand kids will be driving when they do go out). They should only need replacing before then if you get in an accident, have an electrical short or something happens and breaks the housing. Imo the ballast is the weak link in this set up but even these should last for 10 years.

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Has anyone had to replace these halos yet? What is the average life span of them?
The Halo's are powered by led's and will never go out. Just like the HID's they will not need replacing unless under one the above stated situations.
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The bulb and ballest may be true. But the housing is not. THe other part of that expense is the projector, Which projects the light correctly with out blinding other people. Sticking HIDS in your halogen housing is just stupid.

You should do some investigating before making remarks that make you look "stupid".
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:38 AM   #22
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Because they are HID.

The ones on my benz were like $1,200 a piece, so consider yourself lucky lol
very true on the infinite suvs they cost about 2,500 a piece
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You should do some investigating before making remarks that make you look "stupid".
I look stupid. Im not the one that put 8000k HIDS in stock housings. thats border line Rice. Im just sayin. Certain cars come with stock projectors But no HID's. Its usually ok to put HIDS in those. As long as you stick to OEM color (like 4300-5000K) and aim them accordingly.
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I look stupid. Im not the one that put 8000k HIDS in stock housings. thats border line Rice. Im just sayin. Certain cars come with stock projectors But no HID's. Its usually ok to put HIDS in those. As long as you stick to OEM color (like 4300-5000K) and aim them accordingly.
I can only assume, from your post that you are a mustang guy and not into camaros. The ricer comment is good for a laugh. This car, although driven regularly, is for shows.

I still think you should educate yourself before dropping to the lowest rung.... name calling. Even if your just 12 you need to learn to communicate.

These are not blinding like some cheap immitations are. They have a distinct cutoff line. Just go read up on them or better yet find someone with them installed. You may be surprised.

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So you must be a mustang guy. RS Camaros come with the lights.

This car, although driven regularly, is for shows.

I still think you should educate yourself before dropping to the lowest rung.... name calling. Even if your just 12 you need to learn to communicate.

dude I understand Rs camaros have stock HIDS. But its a projector. Not a reflector like non RS hids. My opinion stands. Putting HIDS in a housing not meant for them is not a smart idea.
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