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Old 10-06-2011, 06:07 AM   #251
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GM North American President Mark Reuss has confirmed that the ZL1 laps the Nurburgring in 7:41.27
SHAKE AND BAKE!!!!!!!!!

Now I can tell my wife "but it lapped The Ring" in 7:41" and she'll be like "why didn't you say so, sure we have four little kids and it snows a lot here in the Northeast during the winter, but since it can lap Th Ring in a time like that, lets trade in the minivan and get two".....

Way to go GM!!!
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:44 AM   #252
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Old 10-06-2011, 07:38 AM   #253
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My mind is blown.

Is this even possible? Faster than a Z06 and ZR1, not to mention the other cars it eclipses? Seriously? I'm almost having a hard time believing this is true.
Not quite faster than the ZR1 . Damn impressive though. It stacks up against some very good cars!

List from here: http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?fID...3&viewThread=y

6:44.3* 185.49 km/h - Raeder Lamborghini Gallardo VLN SP8, 550 PS/1350 kg (sport auto Tracktest 11/08) *race car
6:47 -- 183.09 km/h - Pagani Zonda R, ??? PS/??? kg, Marc Basseng http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/25...ng_record.html
6:48 -- 182.69 km/h - Radical SR8LM, 455 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/24...ng_record.html http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetev...ap_record.html
6:55* - 178.69 km/h - Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (UK)sep,28 05, (*street-legal only in the UK and the EU) http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/radical-tv
6:58.16 177.16 km/h - Ferrari 599XX, Raffaele di Simone, 21st April 2010 http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1264215685289
7:03* -- 176.91 km/h - Dodge Viper ACR-X, ??? kg/??? PS (*mfr.) http://jalopnik.com/5840489/dodge-vi...nd-some-change
7:03.28 176.90 km/h - Land Porsche 997 GT3 RSR race car, ~500 PS/1220 kg, Toto Wolff (A)

7:11* -- 172.07 km/h - McLaren F1 #LMXP1 (Promotional Car), Mika Hakkinen http://www.sps-automotive.com/en_sps...7Nt_zonda.html *not an official source
7:11.57 171.69 km/h - Gumpert apollo sport, 700 PS/1200 kg; Florian Gruber http://www.evo-cars.de/news/gumperta...fein712min.php
7:12* -- 171.67 km/h - 2010 Dodg Viper ACR, ??? PS/??? kg (*mfr) http://jalopnik.com/5840489/dodge-vi...nd-some-change
7:12* -- 171.67 km/h - Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14* -- 171,28 km/h - Lerxus LFA Nurburgring Edition, company test driver Akida Iida http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/02/l...production-re/
7:14.89 171.18 km/h - Donkervoort D8 270 RS, 350 PS/600 kg, Michael D?chting (nov,6 05) http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199
7:15.63 169.31 km/h - Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05) http://www.edo-competition.de/Filme....deogallery_pi1[video]=12
7:18* -- 170.04 km/h - Porsche 911 GT2 RS, 620 PS/1370 kg *mfr.
7:18.01 170.24 km/h - Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting (sport auto 12/04) http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...ID=2&tID=13957
7:19* -- 169.93 km/h - Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) *mfr. www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg
7:19.63 169.97 km/h - 2012 Corvette ZR1 http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/09/2...its-ring-time/
7:22.1 - 169.74 km/h - 2009 Dodge Viper ACR, 600 PS/1488 kg, Tom Coronel (NL) http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ord/index.html www.kcvca.com/ACR_1.wmv 7:22.1* 169.74 km/h - Schubert BMW 320d VLN SP10, 260 PS (sport auto 11/08) *race car
7:22.9 - 169.07 km/h - Loaded BMW M3 CSL, 532.7 PS/1427 kg, Richard Goransson (nov,15 07) www.loaded.se/sd_page/29/1/index.php?
7:24* -- 168.64 km/h - Lexus LF-A, 552 PS/??? kg *unofficial, according to http://motormagazine.co.jp/2007/12/20081_4.html
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...lexus_lfa.html 7:24 --- 168.64 km/h - Gumpert apollo sport, 700 PS/1200 kg (sport auto 10/09)
7:24 --- 168.64 km/h - Porsche GT2 RS, 620 PS/1405 kg (sport auto 11/10)
7:24.22- 168.64 km/h - 2011 Nissan GT-R according to /www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK62yyQ33_U
7:24.29 168.53 km/h - Maserati MC12, 632 PS/1335 kg, Marc Bassenq (evo #123) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=164756
www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1kg5ixs3FY

7:24.65 168.40 km/h - Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Bassenq (evo #123) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=164756
www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1kg5ixs3FY
7:25.21 168.19 km/h - Ferrari Enzo, 660 PS/1365 kg, Marc Basseng (evo #123) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=164756 www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1kg5ixs3FY www.supercarmovies.com/html/interface.html
7:26.4* 167.74 km/h - Corvette ZR1, 620 PS/1519 kg *General Motors development engineer Jim Mero http://blog.gmnext.com/?p=194 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Z...4.htm?Ref=Blog
7:26.7* 165.69 km/h - 2010 Nissan GT-R Vspec, 478 PS/??? kg *provisional entry according to www.gtr.co.uk/forum/116340-7-26-7-a.html

7:27* -- 165.98 km/h - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0, 500 PS/1360 kg *mfr.
7:27.56* 165.57 km/h - 2010 Nissan GT-R, 478 PS/??? kg *company test driver Tochio Suzuki according to http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/16/r...e-nurburgring/
7:27.82 167.21 km/h - Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Basseng (EVO #112) http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228650/ http://www.supercarmovies.com/html/c...SODE5movie.php
7:28* -- 165.56 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/1475 kg, * company test driver Walther Roehrl (Autobild 07/04)
7:28.71 164.76 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/1475 kg (evo ?/08)
7:29* -- 164.68 km/h - 2009 Nissan GT-R, ??? PS/??? kg, *company test driver Tochio Suzuki according to http://www.nissaneurope-newsbureau.c...95056384513968
7:30* -- 164.48 km/h - 2013 Jaguar C-X75, ?? PS/??? kg http://nachrichten.rp-online.de/auto...erie-1.1287084
7:30* -- 164.48 km/h - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0, 500 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 08/11)
7:30* -- 164.48 km/h - Porsche 917 Spyder, 493 PS/??? kg, *mfr. http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/249934/
7:31 --- 164.38 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl according to www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=11159
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h - Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg (*mfr.) www.pagani-automobili.de/pagani-zonda-r.htm) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...e-911-gt2.html
7:32.18 164.07 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ng_422642.html
7:32.44 163.91 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04) http://www.sportauto-online.de/super...e-1041052.html
7:32.52 163.88 km/h - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:32.9 163.72 km/h - Ferrari 458 Italia, 602 PS/ 1371 kg (Autobild Sposrtcars) http://img215.imageshack.us/f/nbra.jpg/
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h - Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=83550
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 450 PS/1417kg (sport auto 05/10)
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 450 PS/1,370 kg http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/24...laps_ring.html
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=142508
7:33.55 163.62 km/h - Koenigsegg CCX, 817 PS/1280 kg , Marc Basseng (evo #123) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=164756
7:34 --- 163.59 km/h - Audi R8 GT, 560 PS/1577 kg (sport auto 10/05)
7:34 --- 163.59 km/h - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 10/05) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=75219
7:34 --- 163.59 km/h - 2011 Nissan GT-R, 530 PS/1770 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 11/10)
7:34* -- 163.59 km/h - Porsche GT2 *back-to-back testing by Porsche http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...n-GT-R/235197/
7:35* -- 162.86 km/h - Nissan GT-R R35, 473 PS/1724 kg (*mfr. estimation) http://www.motortrend.com/future/spi...08_nissan_gt_r
7:35 --- 162.86 km/h - Ruf Rt12, 650 PS/1573 kg (sport auto 01(08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=150345
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h - 2011 Nissan G-R, 530 PS/ 1784 kg (sport auto 05/11)
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther R?hrl (02)
7:36* -- 162.63 km/h - Mercedes SL 63 AMG Black Series, *mfr. according auto-motor-und-sport.de (link no longer available)
7:37* -- 162.28 km/h - Honda NSX test mule, 550 PS * http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/19/n...ially-at-7-37/
7:38 --- 161.63 km/h- Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4, 570 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 03/11)
7:38* -- 161.63 km/h - Lexus LFA, 560 PS/1598 kg (sport auto 09/10)
7:38* -- 161.63 km/h - Mercedes SLR 722 GT, *company test driver Chris Goodwin http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...7671_13987.hbs
7.38* -- 161.63 km/h - Nissan R35 GT-R, *company test driver Suzuki, slick cut tyres, track partially wet http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...opanel..1.*#40 http://youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg http://youtube.com/watch?v=mqjnwbji13k
7:38 --- 161.63 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, 647 PS/1533 kg (sport auto 10/09)
7:38 --- 161.63 km/h - Ferrari 458 Italia, 570 PS/1540 kg kg (sport auto 08/10)
7:38 --- 161.63 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 486 PS/1778 kg (sport auto 07/09)
7:38* -- 161.63 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo *back-to-back testing by Porsche http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...n-GT-R/235197/
7:38.85 161.59 km/h - Lexus LFA, 560 PS/1580 kg (AutoBild Sportscars 10/10)
7:39 --- 161.58 km/h - Ferrari 430 Scuderia, 510 PS/1402 kg (sport auto 07/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=160225
7.39* -- 161.58 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.58 km/h - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg
7:39 --- 161.58 km/h - TechArt GT street (based on 997 Turbo) 620 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=140084 http://www.sportauto-online.de/aktue...7063_14469.hbs
7:39.39 161.219 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl (AutoBild 02/06)

7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Audi 200 Turbo quattro, Christian Kohlhaas http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ3RgmIx9sM&fmt=18
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes SLS AMG, 571 PS/1647 kg (sport auto 05/10)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1690 kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 03/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Mercedes Benz SLR, Klaus Ludwig http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ife_45763.html
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Mercedes SLS AMG, 571 PS/1630 kg official time acording to
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7:40* -- 161.22 km/h - 20102 Porsche 911 Carrera S, 400 PS/ ??? kg *mfr. http://www.worldcarfans.com/11109223...CarFans.com%29
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 435PS/1426kg (sport auto 06/09)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 435PS/1426kg, *company test driver Walter Roehrl
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:40.76 160.89 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo SL, 570 PS/1430 kg (AutoBild Sportscars 10/10)
7:41 --- 160.87 km/h - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413 PS (AutoBild 07/04) http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsho...pdf.asp?id=217
7:41.2 160.87 km/h - Porsche 911 Turbo S Aerokit (AutoBild Sportscars) http://img215.imageshack.us/f/nbra.jpg/
7:41.27 160.77 km/h - 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 according to http://www.autoblog.com/2011/10/05/g...gring-in-7-41/

7:42* -- 160.52 km/h - Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-2 Super Veloce, 670 PS/1764 kg (sport auto 01/10 40th anniversary edition)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h - Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02) A HREF="http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/nordchliefe/index.php" TARGET="_new">http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/new...iefe/index.php
7:42.9 - 160.21 km/h - Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05) http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y...ID=1384471&l=d
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/??? kg http://www.welt.de/print-welt/articl..._Reserven.html
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h - TechArt Porsche GT Street (based on 996 GT2) 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,00 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:43.65 159,89 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 486 PS/1740 kg (AutoBild Sportscars 10/10)
7:44 --- 159.83 km/h - Audi R8 5.2 FSI, 525 PS/1660 kg (sport auto 09/09)
7:44* -- 159.83 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg *company chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../71017001/1065
7:44 --- 159.83 km/h - Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:44 --- 159.83 km/h - Porsche 911 Turbo S, 530 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 03/11)
7:44.4 --- 159.64 km/h - Mercedes SLS AMG (AutoBild Sportscars) http://img215.imageshack.us/f/nbra.jpg/
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h - Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h - Ferrari F430 SC, *Porsche company test driver Walter Roehrl
7:45 --- 159.48 km/h - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600 PS (00)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h - Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...ck-series.html
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h - McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at www.pistonheads.tv
7:45*-- 159.48 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h - Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00) www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1528 kg (sport auto 09/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=137437
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h - SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (sport auto 99)
7:46.29 159.14 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1500 kg (Auto Italy 09/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=136632
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=134701
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1748 kg (sport auto 08/07)
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7:47 --- 159.8o km/h - Porsche 911 Turbo, 500 PS/1573 kg (sport auto 03/11)
7:47* -- 158.80 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 507 PS/1421 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h - Wiesmann GT MF5 , 415 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 07/2010)
7:47.794 158.47 km/h - Radical-based Toyoata TMG EV P001 http://www.emotorsportnews.com/track...urgring-crown/
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h - BMW M3 GTS, 450 PS/1546 kg (sport auto 08/10)
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1424 kg (sport auto 03/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=120285
7:48 --- 158.46 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=91836
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - BMW X5 Le Mans, 700 PS/~2000 kg, Hans-Joachim Stuck
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Corvette Z06, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=129099 www.youtube.com/watch?v=62WfAYRcaHI
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07)
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 997 GT3, 435 PS/1426 kg http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/...chleife-05-09/
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 997 GT2, 512 PS/1440 kg http://magazines.drivers-republic.co...c/thetruth030/
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/??? kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (2006) http://www.spiegel.de/auto/fahrberic...414380,00.html
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3, 392 PS (AutoBild 2004)
7:49 --- 158.12 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:49.3 - 158.02 km/h - Lexus LFA, auto,motor und sport magazine
7:49.72 157.89 km/h - Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)

7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - Kawasaki ZX-10R
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02), Bridgestone test rider Tim R├ƒ┬ƒ├‚┬ƒ├ƒ┬‚├‚┬ƒ├ƒ┬ƒ├‚┬‚├ƒ┬‚├‚┬ƒ├ƒ┬ƒ├‚┬ƒ├ƒ┬‚├‚┬‚├ ƒ┬ƒ├‚┬‚├ƒ┬‚├‚┬ƒ├ƒ┬ƒ├‚┬ƒ├ƒ┬‚├‚┬ƒ├ƒ┬ƒ├‚┬‚├ƒ┬‚├‚┬‚├ƒ┬ ƒ├‚┬ƒ├ƒ┬‚├‚┬‚├ƒ┬ƒ├‚┬‚├ƒ┬‚├‚┬Âthig http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/05/k...scary-awesome/
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 480 PS/1750 kg, Horst von Saurma, partially wet track (sport auto 12/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=145737
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - 2009 Porsche Carrera S, 385 PS/1450 kg PDK, PASM, Michelin Pilot Cup Sport tyres (sport auto 08/08) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=127326
7:50 --- 157.79 km/h - Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine
7:50.9 - 157.39 km/h - Audi R8 GT, auto,motor und sport magazine
7:51 --- 157.34 km/h - Mercedes SL 65 AMG Black Series, 670 PS/1880 kg (sport auto Supertest 05/09)
7:51 --- 157.34 km/h - Nissan GT-R, ??? PS/??? kg http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/...chleife-05-09/
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Ford GT, 550 PS/1599 kg (sport auto 02/06)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-5, 560 PS/1590 kg (sport auto Supertest 11/08)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 493 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03)
7:52 --- 157.12 km/h - Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:52.38 - 157.0 km/h - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1395 kg (AutoBild sportscars 10/10)
7:52.84 - 157.09 km/h - Ruf Turbo Rt 600, 600 PS/1656 kg (AutoBild sportscars 08/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=161349
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h - Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05) http://www.sportauto-online.de/test_...0696_14469.hbs
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h - Nissan GT-R R35 back-to-back testing by Porsche http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...n-GT-R/235197/
7:54 --- 156.46 km/h - Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 06/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=126501

7:54 --- 156.46 km/h - Porsche 993 GT3, 360 PS/1380 kg (sport auto 06/03)
7:55* -- 156.13 km/h - Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal)(*mfr.)
7:55 --- 156.13 km/h - Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:55 --- 156.13 km/h - Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=2&tID=67305
7:55 --- 156.17 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../71017001/1065
7:55 --- 156.17 km/h - 2011 Subari WRX STI, copany test driver Tommi Makkinen
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...enge-2010.html
7:55.9 - 155.81 km/h - Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg http://magazines.drivers-republic.co...c/thetruth030/
7:56* - 155.80 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h - Ferrari California, 460 PS/1787 kg (sport auto 06/10)
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3, 462 PS/??? kg http://www.spiegel.de/auto/fahrberic...117941,00.html
7:56 --- 155.80 km/h - Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56* -- 155.80 km/h - Porsche Panamera Turbo, 500 PS/1970 kg, *company test driver Walter Roehrl (AutoBild 22/09) http://www.autobild.de/artikel/porsc...bo_918406.html
7:56.50 155.60 km/h - Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.65 155.57 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.73* 155.57 km/h Honda NSX-R (*Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not complete)
7:57 --- 155.48 km/h - AC Schnitzer Tension, 552 PS/1797 kg (sport auto 04/07), http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=123445
7:57 --- 155.47 km/h - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600 PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/98)
7:57.46 -- 155.47 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4, 560 PS/1456 kg (AutoBild sportscars 08/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=0&tID=161349
7:58 --- 156.66 km/h - Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler (10/05) http://www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.ph...16841&t=16841\ 7:58 --- 156.66 km/h - Raeder Ford Focus RS, 363 PS/ 1441 kg (sport auto 01/11)
7:58 --- 156.66 km/h - 2009 Porsche Carrera S (manual transmission) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=127326
7:59* -- 154.82 km/h - Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59* -- 154.82 km/h - Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R (*free of the speed limiter standard on UK versions, so it was discounted) http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/
7:59 --- 154.82 km/h - Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting "Performance" (Walter Roehrl, WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59 --- 154.82 km/h - Raeder Ford Focus, 305 PS/??? kg http://www.evo-cars.com/tuning/news/...-rs-von-raeder
7:59.22 154.70 km/h - Cadillac CTS-V, 550 PS/??? kg, *mfr. http://cadillac.gmblogs.com/2008/05/...urburgrin.html
7:59.41 154.69 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C "prototype" (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf



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While I'm not confirming or denying...........I have a few thoughts.......

to a few: "Oh ye of little faith -- have I led you wrong yet?"


to another few: $48K? you can buy one for $48K at www.notgonnahappen.com
(sorry, Peter --I know that's your line) - but I've said it dozens of times that there's no way a ZL1 will be 48K with the many features that are standard coupled with world-class performance....
Remember: The U.S. government is raising CAFE - not lowering it - and that will necessarily price V8s above where they used to be.........sorry, but that's the way things work.....if you don't like those rules, you need to vote in the coming elections........


Lastly: IT'S A GREAT TIME TO BE A CAMARO ENTHUSIAST!!!

We (that's you and me) have waited for the 5th gen......we waited and we won......and it keeps getting better!

Thank you most sincerely to those who have 'kept the faith' --
You are making me feel like my prediction is low. Very low.
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So what is an "LSR"
1) Typo?
2) Mis-quote?
3) Something between an LSA and LS9?

Please tell me it's door number 3!!!

Just recieved a email from motor authority... it was a typo and has been fixed
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thats some killer time!!!! congrats, the ZL1 is gonna be a beast. If the SRT 8 costs 51K, the ZL1 should be in the same range around $54,500
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Great time, it really is, but does it really count considering it has a dang roll cage, race seats and god only knows what else done to it? Not to mention who knows what type of tires it had on it.

Secondly, why do we keep comparing this car to the GTR? The flipping thing is 90 plus thousand dollars!!!!!
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Nice job Chevrolet.

Definitely puts the ZL1 up there with some impressive company. Going to be an impressive value no matter what the final price is considering all the cars with similar times on that list would cost $20k - $100k more to purchase.

Hope the workers down in Bowling Green don't lose jobs over this! Oh yeah, the Vette's getting a make-over too.
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This is what im talking about....WTF face....Great job GM.....Look at how close the time is to this...^^
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OK, it's up there with million dollar cars!

Wonder how the engineer's at Brand X's shop are reacting this morning?
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I hope Al won't mind me sharing a story about ZL1 development.........

The ZL1 was being tested at "a road course" and at that "road course" was "brand X" --

After extensive track time, the sun was going down - and "Brand X's" truck and trailer arrived - they were getting ready to put the "Brand Xs" on the truck and take 'em back to 'Brand X land'............and one of the drivers said to one of our engineers: "..........so...........where's your truck??"

.....and just about that time, a Suburban pulled up with production seats - the guys proceeded to remove the racing seats and put in the production seats - another set of tires - and off the ZL1 went into the sunset.........

So - what you may or may not have seen (I ain't talkin') would have been a production intent car............


how 'bout them apples???




Damn -- the "Ultra Grin" has set in.................


I did just read the Motor Trend article and this was used for safety reasons not to mention the extra 30 pounds in the trunk.

Good to know... Welp, Im about to be broke for the next 5 years!
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A 7:41 to the ZR1's 7:14 (I think) is pretty amazing. ZR1 rolls out the door A120k? Take that 60k savings and make a few mods and you NOW have a vette eater.
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I don't care what any detractor says; that's a damned impressive time.
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OR PERHAPS:






(sorry Dragoneye - had to 'borrow' this one....)


A couple of things:

1. -- stop reading into things

2. -- WHAT competitor?

3. -- (again) Let us all turn to the "thou shalt not" pages in the GT-500 owners manual.......and read in unison..............


The ZL1 will be thoughtfully priced. Keep in mind that it's a 'complete' car - there aren't a lot of options available..........

..........then - let's review the list of cars that have established times at the 'ring..............and you tell ME at what price point the car should be listed........ (no pulling the number out of the air -- or somewhere else ) -- think about the performance - the value - the standard features...........

If you were responsible for the shareholders of General Motors (....and that's YOU, by the way....) - how would YOU price it????


I don't think this is what people want to hear .. Will the car be given away .. I'm sure it won't .. however I believe a lot of folks were looking at a price range within the current GT500 pricing .. I'd say 50 - 60k .. since you say there isn't a lot of options .. I'm guessing 55k - 60k range ..

I would say this wouldn't be unreasonable for the car .. however I think expectations and reality is going to bum a lot of people out ...

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I'm only thinking one thing right now. How can I get my hand on it.
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Keep in mind that the ZL1 and ZR1 have something that weighs about 100lbs in the car that doesn't help handling.
The little matter of the supercharger and intercooler may help on the straights but not so much in the corners.
if you look at the Z06 w/ Z07 stuff it is only 3 seconds slower than the ZR1 which has a 133hp more.
The fact that Chevy has figured out how to get this front heavy cars around the ring so well is a testament to what they have learned about suspensions.
I would expect that if Chevy does build a Z28 and puts a N/A LS7 in it it may very well be marginally quicker around a roac course than the ZL1.
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GM cannot be that stupid. To throw another $60k car into an already saturated market. (proof being that I was offered $10k off a new Grand Sport vette last month). No one asked for a $60k car. If true, they just pissed off 80% of their sales base! So, Camaro owners still don't have an answer for the GT500. That is what we have been begging for!!

I'll still get one, I'll just wait till late next year when sales are about 1/4 what GM expected them to be, and get one with an incentive.
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GM cannot be that stupid. To throw another $60k car into an already saturated market. (proof being that I was offeded $10k off a new Grand Sport vette last month). No one asked for a $60k car. If true, they just pissed off 80% of their sales base! So, Camaro owners still don't have an answer for the GT500. That is what we have been begging for!!

I'll still get one, I'll just wait till late next year when sales are about 1/4 what GM expected them to be, and get with with an incentive.

If it is 60k .. we may be talking more ... LOL

I'd say no one panic though .. Hopefully we have pricing soon enough!

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GM cannot be that stupid. To throw another $60k car into an already saturated market. (proof being that I was offeded $10k off a new Grand Sport vette last month). No one asked for a $60k car. If true, they just pissed off 80% of their sales base! So, Camaro owners still don't have an answer for the GT500. That is what we have been begging for!!

I'll still get one, I'll just wait till late next year when sales are about 1/4 what GM expected them to be, and get with with an incentive.

I don't know that I'd consider GM being stupid given this senario (as much as I'm affraid it will turn out to be what happens...). It's my opinion that they're targetting the uber-CAMARO enthusiast with ZL1. They know they have to sell so many. They know what profit margins they have to meet. They know many of us have been waiting and drooling over this car (or what I thought was going to actually be Z28). GM doesn't want to piss anyone off. GM wants to sell cars. I think perhaps they believe (at least I do) that a true CAMARO fanatic would take "X" amount of money, that could easily buy a 'Vette, and go straight to ZL1, which can perform on par with an entry-level 'Vette. If I had the money, that's what I'd do. I'm so CAMARO-crazy that if I had the $120K for a ZR1, I'd walk right by it, and jump into ZL1 and tell the dealer to keep the rest of the money. That's how crazy I am. While I'm at the extreme, I think, perhaps, that's kinda' along similar lines to what GM might be thinking. They see a person like me, who doesn't car that 'Vette might perform a little better at the same price, but knows I'll still go right to CAMARO ZL1.

I totally get what you're saying, and I'm probably trying to spin my theories to make them more palatable for me to accept, but that's where I'm at and what I have to do to keep my cool. Let's not get crazy yet though. GM hasn't announced pricing and if we wig-out for the next month until that's announced, we aren't going to get anywhere. All I'm asking is we try to keep out heads, and keep our faith with GM. They know we know they're a value brand and that they want to give us the most for our money. I know CAMARO, and ZL1 is part of that formula. Why are they going to build a car they can't sell?

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I don't think this is what people want to hear .. Will the car be given away .. I'm sure it won't .. however I believe a lot of folks were looking at a price range within the current GT500 pricing .. I'd say 50 - 60k .. since you say there isn't a lot of options .. I'm guessing 55k - 60k range ..

I would say this wouldn't be unreasonable for the car .. however I think expectations and reality is going to bum a lot of people out ...

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I hope Al won't mind me sharing a story about ZL1 development.........

The ZL1 was being tested at "a road course" and at that "road course" was "brand X" --

After extensive track time, the sun was going down - and "Brand X's" truck and trailer arrived - they were getting ready to put the "Brand Xs" on the truck and take 'em back to 'Brand X land'............and one of the drivers said to one of our engineers: "..........so...........where's your truck??"

.....and just about that time, a Suburban pulled up with production seats - the guys proceeded to remove the racing seats and put in the production seats - another set of tires - and off the ZL1 went into the sunset.........

So - what you may or may not have seen (I ain't talkin') would have been a production intent car............


how 'bout them apples???




Damn -- the "Ultra Grin" has set in.................
As much as I'm on the fence about the car... I have to admit.. That was funny..
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