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Old 10-08-2011, 04:18 PM   #35
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Typically they will build as many as 200 cars(prolly not in this case) and turn them over to executives and other employees to drive for a couple of months before they start production on customer cars. The reason for this is to find out problems that were missed on the CTF cars and prototypes.
The cars that they are going to build for executives and others WILL be sold
later in the year as certified cars.
Ex. the all new 2003 MY Cadillac CTS went on sale January 2, 2002.
I personally saw "Executive" cars that were built in October 2001 for sale in 2002.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:23 PM   #36
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I never understood the reasoning behind the checkered pattern. Does anyone have any insight into this?
The checkered patterning is what ALL automotive companies use on new cars that they are testing to be put into production its to cover up what new car models will look like before they show up in dealerships. It's so the competition doesnt see much and ESPECIALLY so that spy photographers don't get much info on their new vehicles coming out.
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:27 PM   #37
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Of course I want a ZL1 but if another camaro follows me home I'll be sleeping in it. Hmm??? Actually, that might be a good plan. LOL
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:00 AM   #38
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I seriously doubt that the dealerships will let this car out for $47K. Somewhere between $55K - $60 maybe...
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:18 AM   #39
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So it's coming along.
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:25 AM   #40
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i think they should have pushed this car to the limit on the wet track just to see how it handles in the ran and i dont mean push it hard enough to wreck i mean just take a couple of the slower turns on the track as fast as they could in the ran im really curious if it handles better in ran than the ss does everyone knows it handles better on a dry track but did the better suspinion help any in the ran? bc my ss is not much on a wet road even in normal wet driving conditions.
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:43 AM   #41
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I seriously doubt that the dealerships will let this car out for $47K. Somewhere between $55K - $60 maybe...
And that is the sad truth. So i'll be looking to get my 2012 two years from now used, but that's ok.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:20 AM   #42
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As awesome and tempting as this car is (and it is) I think one can make a strong case for going with a SS and modifying it over this car. Though to do so you need to have some cash laying around and be ok with voiding the warranty.

Though I have been thinking about getting this or getting a 1SS or even 2SS and modifying it to make it lighter and more powerful. From what I have read this car is 4,200 pounds with 580BHP gives it a power to weight ratio of 7.2 pounds per horsepower. A really good power to weight ratio though if you had a 3,600 pound car you will only need 500BHP which you can pull off from the LS3 engine NA. Katech I think has a package for $5,000 which is rated at 530BHP and 470ft-lbs of torque. If you can do that to a SS LS3 car and figure out how to drop 250 pounds from the car then I think you would have a real winner.

Or you can just buy a ZL1 and call it a day IDK.
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:49 PM   #43
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This is all fine and dandy, but how much will it cost?
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:52 PM   #44
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I never understood the reasoning behind the checkered pattern. Does anyone have any insight into this?
It means the car is a WINNER!
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:11 PM   #45
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The checkered pattern help hide the details of the lines of the car body. Much like the black and white lines on a zebra.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:50 PM   #46
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When you listen to the last few sentences from Mark Reuss he says that they are going to produce some cars around Christmas time to let their employees finish about 250,000 to half million miles of validation and then they are going to start building the cars when they are ready. Does that mean that they will not start production in January as previously stated? How long will it take to drive half a million miles? I am really looking forward to this car and I do want it built right but to me it sounds more like they will start production in March or April than in January. That would only be 3 or 4 months of production before the new model year plant break in mid July. Listen to the end of the video and let me know what you think.
That could be the case. Remember that there is quite a bit riding on this car. One of the big statements that GM wants to make with this car is the handling! Mark even said in the video that this car will be a lot easier to drive than a Corvette... So they might need some extra time to iron out the calibrations...

Patience is a virtue my friend! It will all be well worth it in the end.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:51 PM   #47
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This is all fine and dandy, but how much will it cost?
Just 1 more month before they announce pricing!

Most people are guesstimating a starting price right below $50k, but expect to go near $60k for a fully loaded ZL1.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:00 PM   #48
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sounds like it will be out at the same time they will start producing 2013 camaros...that is a LOT of miles but i believe they are using that car to try and reach 250,000- .5 mil miles
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:03 PM   #49
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I read that the ZL1 will be a short run, limited production car if that helps. Then, again, it does all depend on demand which I can already see here!
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:23 PM   #50
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CAMAR8 decals at 0:18?
Reflection of the white center in the chrome.......optical illusion, a good one non-the-less.
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CAMAR8 decals at 0:18?
lol good eye but its just the reflection throwing you off
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