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Old 10-13-2011, 04:33 PM   #18
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Good luck with the build. Always wished 2010 SGMs had the SS option. But with all the driving I do im not regretting my V6 purchase. Have Fun!
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:39 PM   #19
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My only wish was that I could get an SS in SGM in a 'vert.... Didn't happen...thanks GM!

So far, I'm not missing much by going with the SS. My MPGs are down ~2-3 mpgs over my V6 but that is mostly because I'm still playing and learning how my SS runs and handles. The AFM actually does an amazing job at keeping MPGs up when you are just rolling along on flat land at constant speeds between 40-65mph. My UltraGauge does real time MPG readings from the ECM and I'm usually sitting at 30-38mpg when AFM kicks in. One of these weeks, I'll do a tank of gas where I focus on fuel economy, just to see how high I can get it with the SS and AFM during my regular commute.
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Old 10-13-2011, 08:03 PM   #20
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My only wish was that I could get an SS in SGM in a 'vert.... Didn't happen...thanks GM!

So far, I'm not missing much by going with the SS. My MPGs are down ~2-3 mpgs over my V6 but that is mostly because I'm still playing and learning how my SS runs and handles. The AFM actually does an amazing job at keeping MPGs up when you are just rolling along on flat land at constant speeds between 40-65mph. My UltraGauge does real time MPG readings from the ECM and I'm usually sitting at 30-38mpg when AFM kicks in. One of these weeks, I'll do a tank of gas where I focus on fuel economy, just to see how high I can get it with the SS and AFM during my regular commute.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:17 PM   #21
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Sounds better now. At least I can actually hear the exhaust a little better. Still way too quiet for my tastes and a lot quieter than the SOLO Performance Mach XL cat-back I had on my 2010 V6. Going to have to rectify this lack of noise situation eventually with a full cat-back system. Even my wife said the muffler delete didn't go far enough in making this car sound louder like the way it really should. At least she gets it...

So far, AFM isn't bugging me when it kicks in. I can hear it better now than I could before but its not overly annoying (yet). Time will tell...
OK, I was going to purchase an axle-back system (Borla or Flomaster) but like you, I'm considering just straight pipes for the time being. The stock exhaust is just way too wussy...but you say your straight pipes aren't much louder? I don't know what your old cans look like but mine are HUGE under there and I'm thinking it should be at least 4 or 5 times louder without them. I was also slightly concerned about warranty issues doing a mod like this...is there any chance of engine damage?

BTW, love your Green SS.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:20 PM   #22
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OK, I was going to purchase an axle-back system (Borla or Flomaster) but like you, I'm considering just straight pipes for the time being. The stock exhaust is just way too wussy...but you say your straight pipes aren't much louder? I don't know what your old cans look like but mine are HUGE under there and I'm thinking it should be at least 4 or 5 times louder without them. I was also slightly concerned about warranty issues doing a mod like this...is there any chance of engine damage?

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I dont think intake or exhaust mods void warranty. Switch gears out, turbo, S/C, or tuning will.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:27 PM   #23
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Without the rear cans, it is louder than stock, certainly. Enough that I can remote start my car from 150 ft away in an empty parking garage at work and hear it, then listen to it idle. With the rear cans in place, I could barely hear it start and no way could I hear the idle. It has a nice tone to it as long as you stay out of AFM mode. Not that AFM mode sounds horrible, it just doesn't sound pleasing to my ears.

When I say it isn't loud enough, in comparison to my V6 and the Solo exhaust, I mean that my wife can no longer hear me (from inside the house) take off from the stop light that is 1/4 mile away.

I can't imagine any axle back kit being any louder than a straight pipe, unless you remove some of the restrictions upstream (resonator, cats).
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:28 PM   #24
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I dont think intake or exhaust mods void warranty. Switch gears out, turbo, S/C, or tuning will.
Only part of the warranty it would void would be the exhaust warranty. Not that that part of the warranty is worth much anyhow.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:36 PM   #25
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Thanks for the info rolnslo!

I'm going to cut the mufflers off and see what it sounds like. If its not too obnoxious then I'll put straight pipes on. Otherwise I'll go with my local muffler shop here and have him outfit it with a Magnaflow or Flomaster. Thanks again for the info.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:41 PM   #26
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Good luck! I had the muffler shop just cut off my stock tips and put those on the end of the straight pipes for now.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:48 PM   #27
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Congradulations but you guys are kiiiiiiling me with the upgrades to an SS Everytime I see one of these threads it make me want to take every mod off my car and take her in only after 10 months. I am trying very very hard to not regret my 6 when I let the beauty take over my mind not even truly thinking what my ultimate goal was going to end up being.

but oh well.. I guess we live and learn. You did the right thing

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Old 10-14-2011, 04:51 PM   #28
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That's what I'm doing...Cheap!
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:56 PM   #29
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bmorecam - I kept my V6 for 2 years and 3 months - 41600 miles. I don't think I would have even truly considered moving to an SS if the Aisin AY6 tranny wasn't such a piece of crap or if I really had other options for replacing the transmission with something better. I was headed down the same road I was on when GM replaced the first trans at 13k miles and I got tired of being on that one way road with no off-ramps. :(

The V6 certainly wasn't a bad car at all and I actually really enjoyed driving it when the transmission worked right.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:57 PM   #30
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That's what I'm doing...Cheap!
Cheap is good sometimes...helps offset the fuel costs of an SS (when I can't keep my foot out of it). One of these days I may do the "how low can my mileage go" driving for a tank of gas.

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Old 10-25-2011, 12:25 PM   #31
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Ugh...1300 miles and the first problem. No HEAT!

It's not like it's cold out here in Houston but I figured I'd run the heat this morning to clear the fog off the windshield. No go. Nothing but ambient air temp (~70deg) with the temp knob cranked on HOT! Ok, maybe it was just because I had it on defrost. Nope! Put it on floor and then dash but never had any hot air coming out at all. My 2010 could roast marshmellows when I cranked the heat and fan onto high. Guess I'm heading to the dealership later this week.

Really hoping it's not the heater core because I've read through the threads on replacing it and I really didn't want my windshield and dash taken out just to repair/replace the heater core.

Not happy.
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Old 10-25-2011, 03:07 PM   #32
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What the hell...

So I went out at lunch and fired up the heater just to make sure I wasn't going crazy before I called the dealership and it worked perfectly - frigging hot air.

Ugh...I don't need odd electrical bugs in this car...I already own a Ford.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:52 PM   #33
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I had no idea man...just found this thread. Congrats and subscribed.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:13 PM   #34
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Thanks Russ. I made a brief appearance at the Texas Camaro Nationals with it (didn't run it because I had less than 200 miles on it at the time). Was only there for a couple of hours, most of it spent watching the track guys clean up the oil spills from the blown motors.

BTW: That last video you posted in your thread...holy hell your Camaro sounds awesome with that new engine under the hood!! LOVED the smokey take off down the street!
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