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Synerbee · 10-10-2011, 08:32 PM

I am looking for ways to add low end torque. I am looking to get smaller rims 18"-20" with low profile tires most likely in the near future?
I am looking at getting a Vararam intake, and QTP cutouts. I know cut outs will reduce torque will these mods offset the lost? Right now I am running on 22"s and completely stock performance wise

BSR-1 · 10-10-2011, 10:33 PM

V-Max ported throttle body. cheap but effective!
Rear end gears. expensive but more effective!

puertoricanfont · 10-11-2011, 01:18 AM

+1 on gears. Get to power in powerband faster

Synerbee · 10-11-2011, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BSR-1

V-Max ported throttle body. cheap but effective!
Rear end gears. expensive but more effective!

I am interested in a TB but, I know their is a lot of picky dealers around here. How hard would it be to change the TB for needed warranty work?

I would love new gears, but it's not likely I'll get them anytime soon "first car"

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SIXJAK · 10-11-2011, 02:15 AM

I am NOT an mechanic. It took me 20 mins to swap.

OOLIE · 10-11-2011, 08:25 AM

The downside is you would have to hang on to your core, so the added expense would be $200. Everyone says it is a 15 min job roughly.

scrming · 10-11-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Synerbee

I am looking for ways to add low end torque. I am looking to get smaller rims 18"-20" with low profile tires most likely in the near future?
I am looking at getting a Vararam intake, and QTP cutouts. I know cut outs will reduce torque will these mods offset the lost? Right now I am running on 22"s and completely stock performance wise

doubt cutouts would reduce your torque... stock cats provide enough back pressure if you are worried about it... and doubt you would pick up any noticeable HP/Torque by just adding cut-outs...

usa1camaro1969 · 10-11-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Synerbee

I would love near gears, but it's not likely I'll get them anytime soon "first car"

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Instead of gears(it's an expensive upgrade) I went the "cheap" route and swapped a set of lower profile tires on the car. The Camaro comes with a 28.5(?) inch diameter tire. I went down to a 26" tire and don't forget the drop springs or you'll have a huge fenderwell gap. It does the same as adding gears plus the tire/wheels are lighter than stock.
This is how we used to get away with running 4.11's on the street(tall rear tire) and then go to the strip and put on a shorter tire and it was playtime.

ROD_SS · 10-11-2011, 09:29 AM

^ What mods do you have?

PoorMansCamaro · 10-11-2011, 10:37 AM

Nitrous

BSR-1 · 10-11-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

Instead of gears(it's an expensive upgrade) I went the "cheap" route and swapped a set of lower profile tires on the car. The Camaro comes with a 28.5(?) inch diameter tire. I went down to a 26" tire and don't forget the drop springs or you'll have a huge fenderwell gap. It does the same as adding gears plus the tire/wheels are lighter than stock.
This is how we used to get away with running 4.11's on the street(tall rear tire) and then go to the strip and put on a shorter tire and it was playtime.

Damn good Idea!
I'm not stupid but sometimes I miss things that are super obvious!

ipimpthisc · 10-11-2011, 10:53 AM

yup a good gear set help...but if u want a good kick in the butt i would either go twin turbo or a maggie

ipimpthisc · 10-11-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

Instead of gears(it's an expensive upgrade) I went the "cheap" route and swapped a set of lower profile tires on the car. The Camaro comes with a 28.5(?) inch diameter tire. I went down to a 26" tire and don't forget the drop springs or you'll have a huge fenderwell gap. It does the same as adding gears plus the tire/wheels are lighter than stock.
This is how we used to get away with running 4.11's on the street(tall rear tire) and then go to the strip and put on a shorter tire and it was playtime.

I think they call that artificial torque...i did this before in the early 90's

justa25thTA · 10-11-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Synerbee

I am looking for ways to add low end torque. I am looking to get smaller rims 18"-20" with low profile tires most likely in the near future?
I am looking at getting a Vararam intake, and QTP cutouts. I know cut outs will reduce torque will these mods offset the lost? Right now I am running on 22"s and completely stock performance wise

Get rid of the 22's.

BowtieBelle · 10-11-2011, 11:08 AM

What are the standard gears in the 1LT A6?? Curious

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-11-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ark5thGenGirl

What are the standard gears in the 1LT A6?? Curious

3.27 rear end. Here's a link to the wiki for our drivetrain with all the gears. As you can see, 1st and 2nd really suck for the A6.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/wiki.p...ns+%28LS/LT%29

BowtieBelle · 10-11-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

3.27 rear end. Here's a link to the wiki for our drivetrain with all the gears. As you can see, 1st and 2nd really suck for the A6.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/wiki.p...ns+%28LS/LT%29

So which gears should I consider upgrading to in the future?

PoorMansCamaro · 10-11-2011, 11:30 AM

3.73

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-11-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ark5thGenGirl

So which gears should I consider upgrading to in the future?

I would wait. Right now the only ones available for the A6 differential are the 3.55 and I just don't think you will get much benefit from those with our other gearing. At some point someone will come out with 3.73 or even 4.10s for our setup and they would be perfect for a bolt-on LLT. If you decide to go F/I at some point you should wait until you have all your power/suspension mods done and do some runs at the track before deciding. You don't want to have to shift an extra time right at the finish line.

PoorMansCamaro · 10-11-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

I would wait. Right now the only ones available for the A6 differential are the 3.55 and I just don't think you will get much benefit from those with our other gearing. At some point someone will come out with 3.73 or even 4.10s for our setup and they would be perfect for a bolt-on LLT. If you decide to go F/I at some point you should wait until you have all your power/suspension mods done and do some runs at the track before deciding. You don't want to have to shift an extra time right at the finish line.

Oh yeah, forgot about the A6 only having 3.55. Good lookin out!

BowtieBelle · 10-11-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

3.73

I wish. WIll we be able to get stuff like this for our LLTs now that they are going to LFX? Will people keep coming up with parts for ours?

bmorecam · 10-11-2011, 12:00 PM

I say E85. Although the gain is not as much as the horsepower but you will get the full torque kicking in by 3000 rpm vs your normal 5k something.

I also 2nd 3.73 or even 4's!

10-10-2011, 08:32 PM	#1
Synerbee SoCal Headturners Drives: 2010 SGM Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Anaheim Hills, California Posts: 5,714	Mods to increase low end torque? I am looking for ways to add low end torque. I am looking to get smaller rims 18"-20" with low profile tires most likely in the near future? I am looking at getting a Vararam intake, and QTP cutouts. I know cut outs will reduce torque will these mods offset the lost? Right now I am running on 22"s and completely stock performance wise __________________ Mods: 22" Lexani LX-15s, Vertical doors, Dynamic RGB grill light, RGB footwell, SGM painted interior, Mace 25mm insulator, Vararam intake, Grantelli trailing arms, Ark N-II exhaust in box: RX catch can, SS strut towers, eibach 1 in. drop for SS strut towers For sale: Used Granatelli 1g bracing, Used SGM scosche, New DT shorty headers v6 camaro LLT Last edited by Synerbee; 10-10-2011 at 09:15 PM.

10-10-2011, 10:33 PM	#2
BSR-1 Drives: 2LT, MT, Black on Black Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Capo Beach, Ca Posts: 1,185 View My Garage	V-Max ported throttle body. cheap but effective! Rear end gears. expensive but more effective! __________________

10-11-2011, 08:25 AM	#6
OOLIE Drives: 2011 LS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL Posts: 1,698	The downside is you would have to hang on to your core, so the added expense would be $200. Everyone says it is a 15 min job roughly. __________________

10-11-2011, 09:29 AM	#9
ROD_SS Drives: 2013 1SS Camaro/ BMW 328i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wichita Falls,TX Posts: 715	^ What mods do you have? __________________

10-11-2011, 10:37 AM	#10
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 45,218	Nitrous __________________

10-11-2011, 01:18 AM	#3
puertoricanfont Drives: 2010 Black Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Jamestown , NY Posts: 1,471	+1 on gears. Get to power in powerband faster

10-11-2011, 02:15 AM	#5
SIXJAK Account Suspended Drives: MO's only SC'd LLT. Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Branson MO Posts: 2,466 View My Garage	I am NOT an mechanic. It took me 20 mins to swap.

10-11-2011, 10:53 AM	#12
ipimpthisc Banned Drives: @twinturbo, cammed, intrcooled@ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nyc, EAST COAST HEAVY HITTERS Posts: 753	yup a good gear set help...but if u want a good kick in the butt i would either go twin turbo or a maggie

10-11-2011, 11:08 AM	#15
BowtieBelle They see me trollin'... Drives: 217 ci of fury; Chauffeured by SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 13,671 View My Garage	What are the standard gears in the 1LT A6?? Curious __________________ "Never race anything you can't afford to light on fire and push off a cliff." -CamaroSpike 2011 Custom LT/RS: Bella's Build Thread

10-11-2011, 11:30 AM	#18
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 45,218	3.73 __________________

10-11-2011, 12:00 PM	#22
bmorecam Account Suspended Drives: jealous vendors mad!! HAHA!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CYBERGMONSTER@GMAIL.COM Posts: 3,705 View My Garage	I say E85. Although the gain is not as much as the horsepower but you will get the full torque kicking in by 3000 rpm vs your normal 5k something. I also 2nd 3.73 or even 4's! Attached Images

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