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Old 10-13-2011, 10:35 PM   #18
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With all the performance concentration placed on V8-engined SS and ZL1 versions (and a possible Z/28?), my thoughts are the V6 market has been all but abandoned...
OK, boys and girls, "have at it!"

What do YOU think?!

The all-new Z/36 for only $29,995
Nah too many Z packages over the years that were just not any good. Lets just call it the V6 performance package. I'd say something like this, lets keep it simple:

- Available on LS, 1LT, and 2LT.
- LFX 3.6 V6, 323 hp.
- 6-speed manual or automatic transmission.
- V6 Performance Package specific wheels w/ Summer-only "sticky" Tires
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- 3.70 limited-slip differential.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:57 PM   #19
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Z71 was originally for fulsize 4x4 truck/suvs. it includes off road shocks and suspension, different tires, and skid plates. best i know they have now offered it on 2wd trucks/suvs. and the colorado/canyon models.

ZR2 was the offroad package for S-10 models for a couple years before they got replaced by the canyon/colorado.

Z66 was the ON-road suspension package for the avalanche.

Z85 is the heavy duty trailering suspension package.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:47 AM   #20
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They tried that once....it was called the Z/34 and it was a P.O.S Celebrity that I personally kicked to the curb and traded for a better car...a KIA!

Thank GM for the Camaro..I have my balls back!

There was a Z/34 Celebrity? Sounds like a BAD idea, lol. I had a '92 Z/34 Lumina, that thing was B@D@$$ for its day, VERY fun car to drive.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:04 AM   #21
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Nope. I would have been if I hadn't built the badest Camaro of all time. At this ponit a ZL1, Z/28 or any other Z except for the ZR1 vette would have a tough time keeping up with me. Practically, removed just about everything stock and replaced it with the best aftermarket parts I could get.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:33 AM   #22
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Nah too many Z packages over the years that were just not any good. Lets just call it the V6 performance package. I'd say something like this, lets keep it simple:

- Available on LS, 1LT, and 2LT.
- LFX 3.6 V6, 323 hp.
- 6-speed manual or automatic transmission.
- V6 Performance Package specific wheels w/ Summer-only "sticky" Tires
- Performance Traction Control Settings.
- FE4 Suspension
- Strut tower brace
- Brembo Brake Package.
- 3.70 limited-slip differential.
Every GM RPO requires a 3-digit Option Code...so would you mind if the "V6 Performance Package" was coded Z36?

As the varied examples above show, GM designates Drivetrain/Suspension options, often, with a "Z" prefix...and, to my knowledge, Z36 is available...
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Old 10-15-2011, 12:44 PM   #23
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I'm sure some would like a Z36 as you described. I wouldn't, and I certainly wouldn't consider it a substitute for a Z28. To get me up to consideration status, they'd need to go farther than what you posed on the OP. I'd say at least 375 hp, and get the weight well under 3700 lbs. Weight would be doable. But picking up 50+ hp, naturally aspirated, from the factory is not going to be easy on the 3.6L. It can be done of course, but it would take a bit of work.

And now that I've said all that, I still want a Z28. GM can come out with a LFX Z36 too, but I want a proper Z28
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Old 10-15-2011, 12:59 PM   #24
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Every GM RPO requires a 3-digit Option Code...so would you mind if the "V6 Performance Package" was coded Z36?

As the varied examples above show, GM designates Drivetrain/Suspension options, often, with a "Z" prefix...and, to my knowledge, Z36 is available...
Of course, its just it wouldn't feel right to me to put a Z** badge on a V6 Camaro. I myself already have the Brembo brake package (calipers and master cylinder), and I plan on upgrading to FE4 eventually. I may buy a ZL1 spoiler because of how much it looks like the one from the Jay Leno concept. I'm also interested in hear how the ZL1 dual mode exhaust would sound on the V6.
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Old 10-19-2011, 06:33 PM   #25
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With all the performance concentration placed on V8-engined SS and ZL1 versions (and a possible Z/28?), my thoughts are the V6 market has been all but abandoned...

The V6 versions are important for CAFE

The V6 versions are le$$ expen$ive

The V6 versions are more modestly insured

The V6 versions could be a LOT of "bang for the buck"

So let's build one...and we'll call it the Z/36

* Base 1LS Model 1EE37
* LFX 3.6 V6, 323 hp.
* MN6, 6-speed manual
* FE4 Suspension
* SS Brembo Front Disc Brakes
* ZL1 20" Forged Wheels
* Summer-only "sticky" Tires
* GMPP CAI
* GMPP Stainless Cat-back
* ZL1 Splitter/Spoiler
* 350 hp. (a "magic" Camaro number!)
* 3750 lb. Curb Weight
* 13.90s in the 1/4 (compare that to '60s musclecars!)
* Surprizing road course times...
* Fun to DRIVE!
* Fun to PAY FOR!
* Fun to maintain!

OK, boys and girls, "have at it!"

What do YOU think?!

The all-new Z/36 for only $29,995
GM should hire you and I am not joking.
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Old 10-19-2011, 06:44 PM   #26
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I like the idea but not the name. Z/36 sounds like it's supposed to be a "higher" trim level than Z/28 simply because the number is bigger (to me at least).

I'm not sure what you call it, but I don't like Z/36. I like the idea however. Camaro ST? (Street and Track)
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:01 PM   #27
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GM should hire you and I am not joking.
Pete, how nice it would be to be "TWO fer TWO"!!

Another 30-month old "concept" no one's done anything about...

Camaro ST? (Street and Track)

Actually...S/R... (reverse of RS!)...and yes, "S" stands for Street...

What could that "R" possibly stand for?!

The "Z/36" was simply a "hook" to get you in here...interested...and get some feedback...which is truly appreciated...right Pete?!
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:57 PM   #28
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Umm yeah those are the model code names for example the 300ZX was code named Z31 and Z32. The Z cars are actually called Fairlady Z's in Japan. It's the same thing with the Skyline and GT-R R34 and R35 no actual relation to a performance package like the Z/28. Nissan using Z33 is no different than BMW using E92/F20 Etc...

They're chassis numbers native to the vin number. Like EG6, AE86, MA70 etc...


I was kind of hoping GM could offer some form of track pack for the LT. Not in the power department per se, but tighter suspension, more fade resistant brakes, a 3.73 wouldn't hurt either. Too bad they didn't produce the Dusk. I really liked that concept.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:17 PM   #29
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Ummmmmmm, nope. But that's just me.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:47 PM   #30
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Celebrity? I'm pretty sure the Z34 was a Lumina...

Z24 - Chevy Cavalier
Z26 - Chevy Beretta
Z28 - Camaro
Z34 - Chevy Lumina
Z71 - Silverado
I stand corrected......I hated it sooo much I didnt even care W.T.H it was.
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:31 AM   #31
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SLP tried with the ZL327 package

http://slpcamaro.com/zl-models/zl327/
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SLP tried with the ZL327 package

http://slpcamaro.com/zl-models/zl327/
If it were available from the factory, I think it would draw some orders, as long as the price for the package would not threaten that of the SS. Maybe $2500 or less and I think it would have a good chance for success. This idea has some merit.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:37 AM   #33
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If it were available from the factory, I think it would draw some orders, as long as the price for the package would not threaten that of the SS. Maybe $2500 or less and I think it would have a good chance for success. This idea has some merit.
Yeah, the ZL327 was overpriced, that's why it never took off. The Package was $3,995 for Axel back exhaust, Blackwing CAI, underdrive pulley, Rear spoiler, and some fancy graphics and badges. Just not worth it.
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This is in the Z/28 section? WHY?
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