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Old 09-17-2014, 06:54 PM   #1
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Exclamation Dashboard Pull - Heater Core

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I've been trying to find a thread regarding a DIY for pulling out the dashboard with no luck. Can someone point me out in the right direction?

The reason for me pulling it is because my heater core went bad. It's a 2010 SS. On a related note, where in the world can I buy a heater core? I've been searching everywhere online.

Please help. Thanks in advance.
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Never did a 5th gen Camaro ,but it should be a easy ,but long job. Just make sure you disconnect the battery first . I bet it only takes you 3 hours total . You must remove the windshield to access some screws . So after that it is a cake walk .
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There is a thread here recently where the windshield was not removed and it will take way over three hours to do.
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Never did a 5th gen Camaro ,but it should be a easy ,but long job. Just make sure you disconnect the battery first . I bet it only takes you 3 hours total . You must remove the windshield to access some screws . So after that it is a cake walk .
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Old 09-17-2014, 07:46 PM   #4
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:10 PM   #5
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What's funny is that I actually commented in that on Sunday. Thanks for posting up the link though, regardless. But, is there a step-by-step on taking off the dashboard? Does anyone have access to a service manual?
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Never did a 5th gen Camaro ,but it should be a easy ,but long job. Just make sure you disconnect the battery first . I bet it only takes you 3 hours total . You must remove the windshield to access some screws . So after that it is a cake walk .
If you don't know, you shouldn't make such a factual statement.

If you change a heater core in a 5th gen in 3 hours, you're probably removing the dash with a sawzall...and putting the pieces back in with a nail gun and hot glue.

It's probably close to 15 hours of work for 2 people.

I bought my heater core from GM.
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:30 PM   #7
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Thank you, sir.
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What is #11 in this diagram?
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:52 PM   #9
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What is #11 in this diagram?
Don't quote me, but I think #11 is the A/C evaporator core.
#7 looks like the heater core.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:02 PM   #10
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I believe you're right. I just wanted to make sure it was my heater core again so I took out my glovebox and center console side panel to take a look. I saw antifreeze on the supports below and the heat blasts out white mist of antifreeze. That definitely confirms that it is the heater core. Ordered and now I await.
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$66.79 from rockauto.com..ac delco part
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:33 AM   #12
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search adding hud to your car diy and you should find very detailed instructions. that's what I used to pull my dash
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:34 AM   #13
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here it is
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Old 09-18-2014, 02:16 PM   #14
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I just bought a camaro that I'm turning into a race car so i just had all of this stuff out. The dash is the easy part. Im not sure what is involved in replacing the heater core but if the whole blower assembly has to be opened up to change it then all of the bars that support the pedals and the dash have to be removed. The windshield doesn't have to be removed there is only two bolts that are a problem under the windshield but you can get them out. Make sure you don't loose the 4 clips holding the dash to the back of the firewall. They break easily and the dash won't stay in with them removed. The hud install thread is what i used to figure out how to take ours out but it does leave off a few parts. If you have any questions feel free to pm me
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If you don't know, you shouldn't make such a factual statement.

If you change a heater core in a 5th gen in 3 hours, you're probably removing the dash with a sawzall...and putting the pieces back in with a nail gun and hot glue.

It's probably close to 15 hours of work for 2 people.

I bought my heater core from GM.
As I said I never did a 5th gen ,and I said " I bet it could be done in 3 hours " R I F ( I have done many others at my car lot over the 20 years I have been there), but not a 5th gen) and I did see a 5th gen done in what the tech claimed to be 3 hours by Courtesy Chevrolet by a friend who is a tech there . When I saw it they had the windshield out for what ever reason so I assumed it had to come out . Craig is fast and beats the rate book all the time ,he did in fact do the job in 3 hours according to him . I should have said I THINK IT CAN BE DONE IN 3 HOURS by an skilled mechanic AND I THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE THE WINDSHIELD OUT .I can tell you that I have installed 6 sets of long tubes on 5th gens ,and the first one took me 3 hours and the rest were under 2 hours, the fastest being my own at 1hour 50 min, on a lift . So some folks are faster then others.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:50 PM   #16
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Shit should be easier to access...
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Shit should be easier to access...
Vehicles are much more complicated these days and every manufacturer has the same problems . This is not something GM is alone on . Customers want lots of bells and whistle's , and soft touch switches ,displays ,and the like . And a good looking dash that doe's not look cheap with exposed screws and fasteners . So you want high tech and high style ,and it takes a lot of packaging to make you happy . When something breaks ,it is harder to get at . There is nothing GM or any other manufacturer can do to make it look fantastic and be easy to service what is under that cool looking interior /dash . Bottom line is ,you can not have your cake and eat it too. Heater cores rarely go bad now a days if the coolant/Dexcool is changed every 2 years and cut with 50% distilled water. They tell you Dexcool is good for 100000 miles ,those who believe that will have cooling / heating system problems at a much higher rate then those that change it every 2 years . Many will say I'm wrong ,it last longer . All I can tell you is change it every 2 years with a 50/50 mix of Dexcool and distilled water and you will have fewer problems .
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:49 PM   #18
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Thanks for all the help and input guys. I think this will be a great thread for people searching for this subject in the future. What do you think was the main cause of my heater cores and others cracking? Cheap materials?
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Some people attribute this to poor sub-contractor quality standards. Others subscribe to a theory that changing stock electronics causes electrolysis and the result is heater core failure. Did you add/remove/change any electronics in your car prior to the failure?

To date, no one has come forward from GM with an explanation.
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If the heater cores are built by the same Chinese sub contractor as the HVAC actuators ,then that is a distinct possibility . GM is in a tough spot ,they have to produce a vehicle that people want to buy at a price people are willing to pay .All that while making a safe reliable vehicle they can make a profit on . Quite a daunting task indeed, considering the competition they have .
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I wonder if there is something that can be added to the coolant to reduce the possiblility of the core going bad. I know its not the same reason but up until a few years ago Cadillac required GM pellets be added when changing the coolant to reduce the potential for leaks.
AND YES, staying on top of coolant changes is the best way to go. The reason for changing coolant on a regular basis is NOT that the freeze/boiling point is affected by old coolant, its the inhibitors that wear out and cause the metals to breakdown in the cooling/'heating system.
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I remember the Pills for the Caddy . We used to have problems mostly with the 4.1ohv engines ,the 4.5 ohv was a bit better . The 4.6 Northstar dohc was also a problem , and the seal between the lower and upper block would leak .These were all aluminum engines and didn't take kindly to being over heated ,they would warp and most were unrebuildable after that . The coolant had to be at it's best to do the job. If the aluminum started to corrode and flake ,game over . Now with the aftermarket studs some of those North stars are repairable.
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Wonder if this product is any good? , claims to prevent corrosion: http://vr-12.com/
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Guys,

Need your help. I have everything out, but now I'm at the frame within the dash. How do I get the frame out? I don't know exactly what to do with these two areas, unfortunately.
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That's just an alignment pin. Stays with the dash when you pull it out.

There were a bunch of bolts, plus the wiring harness had to be held out of the way, and the brake/clutch pedals were removed.

Take a LOT of pictures of the harness routing so it goes back together correctly.
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