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Old 10-11-2007, 09:46 PM   #1
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4th gen turbospool on a dyno



What do you guys think of the soundtrack this monster makes? I kinda like it...but I kinda don't, too...
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:10 PM   #2
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Well...it's "different".

That video brings back memories of watching my SS on the dyno at SLP.
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That's what mine'll be sounding like. The hiss lets you know besides the roar of the v8 that this car is packing something serious.
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me no like hissing sounds from car
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:49 AM   #5
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This is a good hissing. Not a hole in your tire.
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:18 AM   #6
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I liken it to a jet engine, but I was always under the impression that Turbos, and the spool-up, and the bov, and the wastegate...etc sounds were generally associated with Rice burners...

I sorta wish it was just the V8 rumble...you know? But it is obvious that it's "packing something serious." That I like.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:10 AM   #7
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Love the hissing. For some, it might be annoying. For me, I'd welcome it. Pull up to a stoplight only to have Mustang or ricer pull up next to you. They rev it. You rev it w/ a hiss. They say, "crap." and continue to give you a blank stare wondering how badly they'd be beat.

I reaaaaaaally want a turbo, supercharger, or more likely a procharger for my Camaro. I read a lot into prochargers a while back and found they were pretty good works of art that really pushed out a lot of extra hp.
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Okay...time to reroute the thread a little...I've heard the opposite - that Prochargers make good power, but aren't very reliable at all...So I've been concequently looking into Vortech...

Something about Turbo's just don't sit well with me...BUT if I did get one, it'd probably be an STS. That's what's on the car in my first post. that's the hiss of an STS kit....
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Dragon, it doesn't drown out the v8 rumble.

You know that a hiss on a rice burner makes it faster than normal. Take the power gains it has and slap it on something that produces more power as a base. A Rice burner plus turbo can run 13's if lucky. Imagine what it can do for a Camaro.
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I know...But, (I don't know when the mentality was drilled into me) Turbos have always been associated with Ricers to me...whereas Superchargers were "always meant for Muscle cars" -

If I could erase that mentality, Turbos are the logical choice - they offer the roadability (low low-end torque) of centrifugals...but when you pound it, they tend to offer more overall torque, and more useable horsepower (not just peak)....

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I know...But, (I don't know when the mentality was drilled into me) Turbos have always been associated with Ricers to me...whereas Superchargers were "always meant for Muscle cars" -

If I could erase that mentality, Turbos are the logical choice - they offer the roadability (low low-end torque) of centrifugals...but when you pound it, they tend to offer more overall torque, and more useable horsepower (not just peak)....

(sigh)
Having a bigass blower sticking out of the hood is classic muscle. Over the top? perhaps. Mean as hell? YES. Turbos do offer better performance in the end, but superchargers (I'm talking huge ones) make one hell of a statement!
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Having a bigass blower sticking out of the hood is classic muscle. Over the top? perhaps. Mean as hell? YES. Turbos do offer better performance in the end, but superchargers (I'm talking huge ones) make one hell of a statement!
How big are we talking about to make a statement????

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I think that would define the "Over the top" part of DG's statement...

I'd like to see that thing in action. It looks too big to actually be effective.
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I know...But, (I don't know when the mentality was drilled into me) Turbos have always been associated with Ricers to me...whereas Superchargers were "always meant for Muscle cars" -

If I could erase that mentality, Turbos are the logical choice - they offer the roadability (low low-end torque) of centrifugals...but when you pound it, they tend to offer more overall torque, and more useable horsepower (not just peak)....

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who taught you that?

there are some turbo systems that will give you good low end torque, but a s/c will boost you all the time, not just once the turbo spools.


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How big are we talking about to make a statement????

like this
theres a vid of that car "trying" to back off a trailer, but he cant keep it running. hahaha,
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I seen a video that said it is over 1000hp, I think it was dyno'ed but has never been on a track. it did down really mean though,

i found a vid on youtube, he was in a parking lot. It was different than the CamaroSpike is talking about
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I seen a video that said it is over 1000hp, I think it was dyno'ed but has never been on a track. it did down really mean though,

i found a vid on youtube, he was in a parking lot. It was different than the CamaroSpike is talking about
oh, yeah, im sure it can put out 1000hp, but I would not want to be the one to drive it down the track. that is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much stickin thru and too much to break for a serious run. the funny thing is, you could get the same amount of hp with one blower and not have to worry about over compressing the second housing. then again they are prolly runnin huge pulleys to keep the actual amt of boost within control.
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who taught you that?

I have no idea...nobody I know personally knows anything about cars....
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there are some turbo systems that will give you good low end torque, but a s/c will boost you all the time, not just once the turbo spools.
^I mean that regarding to centrifugals...cause I don't see the point of any other style <That's based on research and personal preference (and besides the point)...When you've got a centrifugal, it doesn't make peak boost untill right near, if not at redline....whereas once Turbos are spooled, that boost pressure is maintained.

Then you get the flipside...Centrifugals never drop off their power, whereas Turbos tend to lose their boost a little towards high rpms...according to what I've seen.

as the saying goes...6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
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Well, specifically I was thinking more along the lines of this pic. Here's a video of it in action http://5thgen.vidiac.com/hottestvide...d16951f600.htm Oh, and I found both of these at http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ghlight=blower
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Now that ^^^ is a sweet 5th Gen.

Why do I never see cars driving around like that? I've seen them at car shows a lot, sure, but never driving along on the highway. Are they not street legal, or is that setup just too cost prohibitive?

Also, if I were to walk into an aftermarket performance shop and ask for that exact setup, what would I be asking for? I know almost nothing about turbos and superchargers except what I've read on this site, so I definitely can't recognize them when I see them.
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^I mean that regarding to centrifugals...cause I don't see the point of any other style <That's based on research and personal preference (and besides the point)...When you've got a centrifugal, it doesn't make peak boost untill right near, if not at redline....whereas once Turbos are spooled, that boost pressure is maintained.

Then you get the flipside...Centrifugals never drop off their power, whereas Turbos tend to lose their boost a little towards high rpms...according to what I've seen.

as the saying goes...6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
ur talkin centrifugal s/c's right? cus technically a turbo is a type of centrifugal. lol

but with a centrifugal s/c, its basically the same as any other s/c just more piping/intercooler as far as function. it runs off a belt to force air into the engine. the problem with turbos is "once you get spooled" lol tho there are setups out there that are making good torque/hp down low, but not many. another thing with centrifugals is that the intake is down inside the engine bay, (unless you've done some work) limiting the amount of air they get compared to a traditional "thru the roof" blower.
the problem with 4th gens and s/cs is that unless you do some major modding, you can only run a centrifugal s/c. theres just not enough room to run a traditional style roots blower. (with the exception of the vette/LS1 roots s/c for the late 4th gens and the blower im workin on for my LT1)


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Why do I never see cars driving around like that? I've seen them at car shows a lot, sure, but never driving along on the highway. Are they not street legal, or is that setup just too cost prohibitive?

Also, if I were to walk into an aftermarket performance shop and ask for that exact setup, what would I be asking for? I know almost nothing about turbos and superchargers except what I've read on this site, so I definitely can't recognize them when I see them.
because the ones that arent just a show car are race cars. and the ones who build them not intending to push them rarely take them out of the garage
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The same Turbo system on a goat...


Camarosopike...I'm not sure which you're supporting more? Centri-blowers, or Turbos? :p
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I think its funny when people think turbo's are for rice cars when Buchi first patented it back in 1905. lol Turbo's started to hit the mainstream auto industry back in the late 70's too help Diesel and belive it or not, GM was the first too use them in production cars in early 60's.

Oh and the hissing sound, you can hardly hear it when your driving. I can hardly hear it in my sti and I dont have any sound deadning in my car.
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damn that thing sounds like it has 25 gears...took the dude long enough to wind it up for a dyno pull..lol

I love the way it sounds...badass. Turbos are too cool, IMO. One thing I always wanted to do on my 3rd gen was a blow through..they make sick power.

Far as turbo vs S/C...FYI any type of FI generates a lot of heat in the air charge. S/C is considered the "most bang for the RPM" FI. Since a turbo impeller is spun by exhaust gases- you have low RPM, not much exhaust gas flow to turn it..thats where you get the term "turbo lag."

I could see a turbo car being a better "street warrior" on a F-body due to the fact that once these cars get out, even if they hit a surge of HP they continue to put power to the ground, even if spinning in the process.


heres a 1076 whp video, turbo car of course (even though im not huge on GN's)...friggin badass...

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Camarosopike...I'm not sure which you're supporting more? Centri-blowers, or Turbos? :p
neither. im supporting twin screw and roots style.
i was just throwin some comparison in there since you left out the other types of S/c

have you forgotten this?

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Yeah, I did forget about that...

Can anybody - if they feel like it - post up a dyno graph, or link to one of a Roots /o Twin Screw on a C6 Vette...I can't find any
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