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Old 10-28-2011, 10:32 AM   #126
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Modern door assy's are HEAVY! For those that want to save 5 lbs by removing electrics... My first thought is...

For those that want theirs stripped, strip it or get a BIW... easy.

Give it the heavier trans and diff with quicker gears from the ZL1, put in the forged pieces from the LSA, Stainless exh. manifolds and cam, call it good

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Old 10-28-2011, 10:51 AM   #127
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:54 AM   #128
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1LE for 1LE

I wonder if they would trade even up, my 98 1LE for the new one? My 98 has been awesome. It has been raced and driven on the street. best of both worlds.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:02 AM   #129
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but.. this comes when U buy the car? or you can buy the kit appart, I hope the sell It apart, so I can buy this for my 2012 camaro
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:13 AM   #130
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I would definitely go for this. But please add HID and HUD as an option!
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:33 AM   #131
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My guess is this is the beginning the of the Z28. Going under this 1LE concept just helps to get the opinion of the looks and options. Maybe this will expand into a new engine offering at the Detroit or LA auto show. But naming it a Z28 concept probably won't happen until after the ZL1 is in full production.

Then again, maybe the 1LE will just be an add option for the SS. This could be the case if the Z28 re-introduction is scheduled for the Gen6. It would certainly be a marketing splash that doesn't directly match up with a Mustang.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:33 AM   #132
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this car is completely badass. i would seiously consider it.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:36 AM   #133
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Not bad, but in order to be worthy of the 1LE name or even a Z28 and differentiate it from the SS and be “It’s an all-out race car package..." it needs to lose weight more than anything else. Replace front fenders, hood, trunk, door steel w/ composites, lose the rear seats, lose some sound deadening.
Now we're talking.

When I personally look at the list of changes on this concept, I see 2/3 of it as appearance mods, and some of the others actually add weight! The 5th gen Camaro is too heavy, and a 1LE version needs only to focus on weight to be successful on the track.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:38 AM   #134
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I would definitely go for this. But please add HID and HUD as an option!
Not sure you are quite understanding the idea behind 1LE. It's supposed to be a no-frills race package. You can get HID and HUD on other packages.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:45 AM   #135
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Not sure you are quite understanding the idea behind 1LE. It's supposed to be a no-frills race package. You can get HID and HUD on other packages.
Yeah, race cars dont have huds or hids, could probably remove the fog lights too. anything to save weight and be a true tack car.
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You guys are making way too many assumptions as usual
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:56 AM   #137
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My guess is this is the beginning the of the Z28. Going under this 1LE concept just helps to get the opinion of the looks and options. Maybe this will expand into a new engine offering at the Detroit or LA auto show. But naming it a Z28 concept probably won't happen until after the ZL1 is in full production.

Then again, maybe the 1LE will just be an add option for the SS. This could be the case if the Z28 re-introduction is scheduled for the Gen6. It would certainly be a marketing splash that doesn't directly match up with a Mustang.
Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:10 PM   #138
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- Lightweight 20x10-inch (front) and 20x11-inch (rear) racing wheels (satin black)
- Brembo® six-piston front calipers, with two-piece front rotors, and four-piston rear calipers (Chevrolet Official Licensed Product)
- Dual exhaust outlets with ZL1-style active exhaust and diffuser

These items show weight loss and or power gains, any guesses of how much?
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:16 PM   #139
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You guys are making way too many assumptions as usual
It's all assumption at this point.. I guess we should all just be quiet and not say anything then that doesn't follow along with sheeple commentary then? I thought part of the point was to solicit opinion and general thoughts from those that they would be targeting.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:44 PM   #140
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My guess is this is the beginning the of the Z28. Going under this 1LE concept just helps to get the opinion of the looks and options. Maybe this will expand into a new engine offering at the Detroit or LA auto show. But naming it a Z28 concept probably won't happen until after the ZL1 is in full production.
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Well, let's pretend for a moment Ford has TWO price points for their BOSS...with a $7,000 spread...

And let's also pretend that Camaro MIGHT try the same...

An LS3 with the 1LE goodies...called, ah what the hell...1LE

...and the BOSS LS annihilator, at an equal extra $7-Gs, with an LS7...

But what, boyz and girlz, will we call THAT one?!

"Oh, I know!!"

Yes, Mary?

"How about the BOZZ?"

Oh Mary, I don't think that would be appropriate...

"Well then, can we pleaze-pleaze-pleaze call it ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 28?!"

Why yes, Mary, I think we can...
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I believe that the 1LE is the basis for a new Z/28 model, heres some of my reasoning, right or wrong it's just what I have noticed.

The top photo is from gm design studio and the next lower one was thought to be a track pack ZL1 but we know now that is not the case since the optional equipment list was released recently.

My personal observation is centered on the new 1LE concept and the green camaro test car wearing ZL1 parts with an LS/LT nose piece which is clearly not just a suspension test car especially seeing how this car has a unique hood of its own under cover for prying eyes not to see. The supercharged ZL1 already has a special dual intake box so it does not need a ram air intake like a natural aspirated engine would need for breathing enhanced performance. GM has stated the ZL1 is showroom stock to be track ready.

GM never test models that are just concepts, that would be a waste of money so we will see another special performance camaro for 2013 in my opinion for us who just cannot afford the price premium of the almighty ZL1.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:50 PM   #141
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It's all assumption at this point.. I guess we should all just be quiet and not say anything then that doesn't follow along with sheeple commentary then? I thought part of the point was to solicit opinion and general thoughts from those that they would be targeting.
calm down....
I didn't make any personal attacks at you.


Some people are just saying, "this is what the car is going to be, and if it's not it'll be a failure"

We have yet to see if this car is even going anywhere other than concept. People just need to sit back and take a look at reality before passing judgement
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:59 PM   #143
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Didn't take long


I think they look cool. I like how they integrated them into the hood.
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I think they look cool. I like how they integrated them into the hood.
They should go past the fender ridge though
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calm down....
I didn't make any personal attacks at you.


Some people are just saying, "this is what the car is going to be, and if it's not it'll be a failure"

We have yet to see if this car is even going anywhere other than concept. People just need to sit back and take a look at reality before passing judgement
Yeah, there's no guarantee that this will ever make it to production as it is. But to see who would be interested in something like this.
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They should go past the fender ridge though
I disagree. Mine look just like those. I think it looks better stopping at the fender ridge.
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calm down....
I didn't make any personal attacks at you.


Some people are just saying, "this is what the car is going to be, and if it's not it'll be a failure"

We have yet to see if this car is even going anywhere other than concept. People just need to sit back and take a look at reality before passing judgement
Well... To be fair... People were pulling the weight card on the ZL1 long before it was known.... A lot of them were proven correct when 4120 was published.. Now that ZL1 is what it is, there are just people that want to see a lightweight road racing car that's more go than show.
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I disagree. Mine look just like those. I think it looks better stopping at the fender ridge.
Mine do too
I just always wish they would stretch all the way down, I just think they look a bit incomplete.

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Well... To be fair... People were pulling the weight card on the ZL1 long before it was known.... A lot of them were proven correct when 4120 was published.. Now that ZL1 is what it is, there are just people that want to see a lightweight road racing car that's more go than show.
Then build it yourself. It's not going to happen unless it's close to the same price as the ZL1.
Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. But that's just me making assumptions. We'll have to wait and see.
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Well... To be fair... People were pulling the weight card on the ZL1 long before it was known.... A lot of them were proven correct when 4120 was published.. Now that ZL1 is what it is, there are just people that want to see a lightweight road racing car that's more go than show.
That would be me, and to ice the cake, I was banned from the ZL1 section as well. Truth hurts doesn't it.

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Mine do too
I just always wish they would stretch all the way down, I just think they look a bit incomplete.


Then build it yourself. It's not going to happen unless it's close to the same price as the ZL1.
Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. But that's just me making assumptions. We'll have to wait and see.
Might I inquire as to why your ( and other mods ) opinions are always correct and anyone who's different is wrong?

We know what we want, we've all been asked to " keep the faith " the ZL1 concept is a big step in the direction of what a bunch of us Z28 heads have been asking for. All we're doing is letting the GM heavies know exactly what we'd like to see, and you keep telling us to build it ourselves or we're wrong.
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That would be me, and to ice the cake, I was banned from the ZL1 section as well. Truth hurts doesn't it.



Might I inquire as to why your ( and other mods ) opinions are always correct and anyone who's different is wrong?

We know what we want, we've all been asked to " keep the faith " the ZL1 concept is a big step in the direction of what a bunch of us Z28 heads have been asking for. All we're doing is letting the GM heavies know exactly what we'd like to see, and you keep telling us to build it ourselves or we're wrong.
I never said you or anyone was wrong, did you just happen to ignore the rest of my post?
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