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Old 10-28-2011, 09:39 AM   #120
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I just want that spoiler + wheels so bad...
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:26 AM   #121
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I would like to see a set of Recaro front seats and cloth interior. A/C and power windows aren't going anywhere. The entire A/C system is about 25 lbs. and power windows are actually lighter than manual. Recaro's would drop some weight, take out some sound deadening and insulation, I'm sure MR doesn't add that much weight. I would like to see a factory CAI, freer flowing manifolds and the ZL1 beefed up diff and axles with a 3.73 gear. There's an easy way to bump the HP to 450 and drop weight to just under 3800 lbs. I would put a deposit down today.

I don't get the leather seats with out the 4 pack gauges. I would have done the exact opposite.
All of this, esp. the bolded part...want me to "keep the faith" build it as described here. No more overweight pigs!!!!

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Yes, that's what I was getting at... We already have fully loaded SS, LT and ZL1s... A 1LE shouldn't, in my mind, have all of that other stuff in it that's not really needed. Yes, it's nice, but it's not really a "road racer" at that point as much as it's a high performance luxury coupe.

I know many people like all their pretty and comfy internals, but one can't have everything... Is it too much to ask to have a "Stripper Z" again?
I sure hope not......but again, "keep the faith"

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You officially have lost your mind.


Sounds like we need to take a road trip to Ohio to straighten the boy out.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:53 AM   #122
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Def.sweet. Love the quad exhaust and GFX. Very nice.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:15 AM   #123
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i cant help but feel shafted
If I was ordering a ZL1 right now id feel a little pissed.
Same spoiler, same rear diffuser same side rockers, same wheels, same magnetic ride control, same exhaust
same interior
minus the LSA
Huh???
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:20 AM   #124
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Cool... A ZL1 minus the supercharger. Sounds like the Z07... which is just a ZR1 minus the supercharger basically.

Love the wheels, exhaust and aero kit. Paint it all one color please. Lose the Dodge hash marks (yes, I know it's a Corvette racing thing from yesteryear but... lose them).

Keep it affordable... $40-45K. TOPS!
Being a graphics designer I can honestly say that the graphics on this Camaro are the best I've seen in many years. Don't lose this one GM.
However to complete the look it should have the convex area in the tail panel and the tail-light trim blacked-out as well.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:31 AM   #125
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I figure if the SS can start at 31k with no options, starting this model at 40k with no options makes sense as well. I think that would definitely cover the cost of magnetic ride, exhaust and exterior upgrades... Sure you can buy a SS coupe for 50k if you buy a fully loaded one, but you can also buy a fully loaded LT for 40k (or 10k more than the base SS).... So I don't think 40k is out of line for a mid-range model.

The supercharger for the ZL1 really is worth 5k installed add to that the cost of the LSA, you're still easily selling a car with 6k more of an engine with the supercharger. Add to that the other traction control stuff, unique forged wheels etc, you've added another 4k in cost. Add to that profit margins for being the top dog, the car could easily be priced 12k more so unless they're going to price the ZL1 for 56k with no options (assuming they price the 1LE at 45k+), they're going to out price the current Ford GT500 by 7k... that's not good for business. Add to that the fact that it only will have 580 horses which is 30 more than the current GT500 and a heavier body (most likely) 6k doesn't really seem justified, even with magnetic ride... The ZL1 will be priced 3k more than the current GT500 at most.

Take that full circle, you really can't charge much more than 40-42k starting for the 1LE considering that it has none of the engine upgrades of the ZL1. But also consider the fact that the Boss 302 is priced at 40k and my argument appears to make even more sense as this car would be its direct competitor.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:32 AM   #126
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Modern door assy's are HEAVY! For those that want to save 5 lbs by removing electrics... My first thought is...

For those that want theirs stripped, strip it or get a BIW... easy.

Give it the heavier trans and diff with quicker gears from the ZL1, put in the forged pieces from the LSA, Stainless exh. manifolds and cam, call it good

Nice job GM
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:51 AM   #127
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You officially have lost your mind.
Why? because I think they look dumb? Sorry.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:54 AM   #128
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1LE for 1LE

I wonder if they would trade even up, my 98 1LE for the new one? My 98 has been awesome. It has been raced and driven on the street. best of both worlds.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:02 PM   #129
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but.. this comes when U buy the car? or you can buy the kit appart, I hope the sell It apart, so I can buy this for my 2012 camaro
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:13 PM   #130
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I would definitely go for this. But please add HID and HUD as an option!
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:33 PM   #131
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My guess is this is the beginning the of the Z28. Going under this 1LE concept just helps to get the opinion of the looks and options. Maybe this will expand into a new engine offering at the Detroit or LA auto show. But naming it a Z28 concept probably won't happen until after the ZL1 is in full production.

Then again, maybe the 1LE will just be an add option for the SS. This could be the case if the Z28 re-introduction is scheduled for the Gen6. It would certainly be a marketing splash that doesn't directly match up with a Mustang.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:33 PM   #132
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this car is completely badass. i would seiously consider it.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:36 PM   #133
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Not bad, but in order to be worthy of the 1LE name or even a Z28 and differentiate it from the SS and be “It’s an all-out race car package..." it needs to lose weight more than anything else. Replace front fenders, hood, trunk, door steel w/ composites, lose the rear seats, lose some sound deadening.
Now we're talking.

When I personally look at the list of changes on this concept, I see 2/3 of it as appearance mods, and some of the others actually add weight! The 5th gen Camaro is too heavy, and a 1LE version needs only to focus on weight to be successful on the track.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:38 PM   #134
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I would definitely go for this. But please add HID and HUD as an option!
Not sure you are quite understanding the idea behind 1LE. It's supposed to be a no-frills race package. You can get HID and HUD on other packages.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:45 PM   #135
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Not sure you are quite understanding the idea behind 1LE. It's supposed to be a no-frills race package. You can get HID and HUD on other packages.
Yeah, race cars dont have huds or hids, could probably remove the fog lights too. anything to save weight and be a true tack car.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:49 PM   #136
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You guys are making way too many assumptions as usual
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