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Old 10-30-2011, 09:42 AM   #1
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Zl1 vs new m5

I think the new m5 will give a good run Road course and drag race.

just remember the new M5 is $92,000.

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how does everyone think the Zl1 will compare?
http://www.bmwblog.com/2011/10/26/20...60-in-3-7-sec/

That being said as a bargain it will be very hard to compete with a zl1. I can't wait to see some videos of these two racing each other.
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:50 AM   #2
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My money is on the ZL1. More power, less weight, and a much better set-up.
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:11 PM   #3
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That M5 look's really heavy will give the win to ZL1 all day and stand by it
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Old 10-31-2011, 12:30 PM   #4
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Old 10-31-2011, 01:19 PM   #5
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Just bought car n drive magz, m5 hp is only 560hp, zl1 is 580. 20 more hp on zl1. Maybe if we do drag race camaro will win, but i dont know if full lenght track race.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:22 PM   #6
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Well they're both very close in weight, but the ZL1 packs 20 more hp and 50 tq than the M5...with equal drivers I would lean towards the Z pulling ahead of the M in the 1/4. Handling would be close I suspect, though the mag ride may again provide a small boost over the already sick BMW suspension capabilities. No comparison regarding interiors or comforts etc...two different animals and the M is a 90k+ ride..
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:43 PM   #7
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ZL1 all the way.
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Old 10-31-2011, 04:57 PM   #8
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Don't forget that BMW tends to be extremely conservative with their numbers. I saw the tech video's online when the M5 Engineers went over every aspect of the cars design. It will be a beast!
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:36 PM   #9
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Also take into account that the M5 actually does 0-60 in 3.7, BMW's times are without roll out unlike the ZL1, GT500 etc etc etc
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:40 PM   #10
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Well the new M5 posted a 7:55 Nurburgring time.

The 7:40 the ZL1 posted is a pretty healthy lead if you ask me.
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:40 PM   #11
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Well the new M5 posted a 7:55 Nurburgring time.

The 7:40 the ZL1 posted is a pretty healthy lead if you ask me.
Wow didn't know that.
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:42 PM   #12
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Well the new M5 posted a 7:55 Nurburgring time.

The 7:40 the ZL1 posted is a pretty healthy lead if you ask me.
The 'ring video on you tube of the ZL1 is pretty sick. Bad ass acceleration!!!
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:45 PM   #13
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:16 PM   #14
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M5.

Same reason an M3 will walk an SS.

There's more than horsepower numbers. Transmission on those cars is godly.
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:01 PM   #15
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M5.

Same reason an M3 will walk an SS.

There's more than horsepower numbers. Transmission on those cars is godly.
Word, I've driven an M3 with a Dual Clutch Transmission and it's no wonder supercars are trading in conventional manual trannys for them.
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:28 PM   #16
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What does the price have to do with the hp tq the m5 will have? Its heavier.
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:50 AM   #17
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Yep, they intentionally gear the DSG short in those cars to improve acceleration (even though there are 7 gears on the 135, there is no gear that's equivalent to the 6th gear on the manual version of the same car, the DSG is just geared that way, more for "fun"), then combined with how they seemlessly change gears, they accelerate faster with less HP. They won't reach as high a top-speed and the camaro would "eventually" pass it, but this is after 1/4th of a mile.
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:00 AM   #18
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They won't reach as high a top-speed and the camaro would "eventually" pass it, but this is after 1/4th of a mile.
I'm not sure if you are still talking about the M5 or switched gears to a 135 but just so everyone knows, M5's have been 200mph+ car's for a while now.
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:04 AM   #19
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I'm not sure if you are still talking about the M5 or switched gears to a 135 but just so everyone knows, M5's have been 200mph+ car's for a while now.
x2. Old E60 has hit 200mph with only the 155mph electronic governor removed. I suspect the F10 will do the same looking at the fact it's got 1. more power 2. better aerodynamic
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:57 AM   #21
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im going to go with the ZL1 for the 1/4 b/c of the better power to weight ratio and a very nice suspension
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:33 PM   #22
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probably a tie for a drag race or slight edge to the ZL1, and the ZL1 should take the cake for the road race. Its already faster in the ring right now.

But secondly and importantly, not the same category or demographic is being targeted by the two cars. That being said, you can't directly compete the two as they value different aspects that they consider "important" and therefor a positive compromise in different directions (IE luxury is not a ZL1 top priority).
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:00 AM   #23
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ring times speak for themselves
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ring times speak for themselves
but everyone seems to be worried about the M5 out-drag racing the ZL1 instead.
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:07 AM   #25
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On performance ZL1 all the way. On creature comforts M5 would win. At least I would hope so for the price.

M5 is 7.76 pounds per HP
ZL1 7.10 Pouds per HP

M5 On Nurenburg did 7.55
ZL1 on nurenburg did 7.41
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