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Old 12-15-2011, 12:00 PM   #18
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They won't reach as high a top-speed and the camaro would "eventually" pass it, but this is after 1/4th of a mile.
I'm not sure if you are still talking about the M5 or switched gears to a 135 but just so everyone knows, M5's have been 200mph+ car's for a while now.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:04 PM   #19
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:44 PM   #20
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I'm not sure if you are still talking about the M5 or switched gears to a 135 but just so everyone knows, M5's have been 200mph+ car's for a while now.
x2. Old E60 has hit 200mph with only the 155mph electronic governor removed. I suspect the F10 will do the same looking at the fact it's got 1. more power 2. better aerodynamic
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:57 PM   #21
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im going to go with the ZL1 for the 1/4 b/c of the better power to weight ratio and a very nice suspension
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:33 PM   #22
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probably a tie for a drag race or slight edge to the ZL1, and the ZL1 should take the cake for the road race. Its already faster in the ring right now.

But secondly and importantly, not the same category or demographic is being targeted by the two cars. That being said, you can't directly compete the two as they value different aspects that they consider "important" and therefor a positive compromise in different directions (IE luxury is not a ZL1 top priority).
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:00 AM   #23
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ring times speak for themselves
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:24 AM   #24
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but everyone seems to be worried about the M5 out-drag racing the ZL1 instead.
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On performance ZL1 all the way. On creature comforts M5 would win. At least I would hope so for the price.

M5 is 7.76 pounds per HP
ZL1 7.10 Pouds per HP

M5 On Nurenburg did 7.55
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:17 PM   #26
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It's a 14 second difference on a 13 mile track. They very well could run the same time with the same driver, on the same day, under the same conditions.
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I'm not sure why more people don't get this, they only seem to think HP/weight is important. It's not the only thing.
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I'm not sure why more people don't get this, they only seem to think HP/weight is important. It's not the only thing.
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This is why I am hesitant to trade up for the new 2013 GT500 because who to say they wont put in a crazy dual clutch auto, electronic diff, DI, flex fuel, ect the following years and then have to trade up again. I kinda wish Ford, Chevy and Dodge would throw the kitchen sink at these car's and focus on styling instead of upgrading parts I cant easily swap every year. Good for them bad for us car nuts that have to have the latest and greatest offerings.
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