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Old 07-28-2012, 10:20 AM   #51
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For $90,000 shouldn't we be talking ZR1??? Just saying..
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:10 PM   #52
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For $90,000 shouldn't we be talking ZR1??? Just saying..
but the zr1 is a two seater two door 3200 pound car not a 4 door 2 ton plus sedan. the m5 is a luxury car it should be compared to the cts-v
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:24 PM   #53
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For $90,000 shouldn't we be talking ZR1??? Just saying..
Not even slightly..... x1000
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:17 PM   #54
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For $90,000 shouldn't we be talking ZR1??? Just saying..
price is not the thing to always look at.

this is a luxury/sports car of BMW. its not going to be cheap to have both like that. corvette is honestly a pure sports car. not luxury at all. therefore its not a fair race in someways.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:19 AM   #55
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My money is on the ZL1. More power, less weight, and a much better set-up.


much better than a M5? u might want to look into that.


zl1 should be quicker overall. but better than a M5...no way man.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:39 AM   #56
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anyone notice the 122mph trap speed? no zl1 has come close to that.
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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The M5 will walk a ZL1 on the strip.
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:38 PM   #59
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For $90,000 shouldn't we be talking ZR1??? Just saying..

Well realistially, is there a place tha sells the ZR1 below 120K, brand new? That 30K difference is the same as the 30K difference between the ZL1 and M5.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:50 AM   #60
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For $90,000 shouldn't we be talking ZR1??? Just saying..
In what universe???????? 2 things that drive me nuts on this site, if the Camaro isn't enough lets bring out the 120k, 2 seat sports car ZL1 to beat sedans and pony cars and the "it may be faster, but yours looks better" crap.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:38 PM   #62
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It hard to understand, but the M5 has been running times faster than the ZL1 in the 1/4 mile. But the ZL1 will put up faster times on a road course.

Here is an example from Car and Driver testing.
M5 - 11.9 @ 123 mph
ZL1 - 12.3 @ 118 mph

But it's become fairly common knowledge that the ZL1 isn't a 1/4 mile monster. It seems to be more setup for a road course.
your right and given some of the times the zl1 been running on the street i say the m5 is faster.
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In what universe???????? 2 things that drive me nuts on this site, if the Camaro isn't enough lets bring out the 120k, 2 seat sports car ZL1 to beat sedans and pony cars and the "it may be faster, but yours looks better" crap.
irks you more than people calling their Camaro, "Maro"?
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:09 PM   #64
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irks you more than people calling their Camaro, "Maro"?
That irks me too, almost as much as people spelling it CamEro
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:16 PM   #65
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Maro's and M5's both suck. Close thread.
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Anyone get the new GM High Tech Peformance mag?

In it they test the ZL1.
GM High Tech said a "professional driver" that had a lot of experience driving the ZL1 was able to run 12.1 @ 116-117 mph (something like that) in the cooler early morning air.

But later in the day, the average Joe's (press representatives, etc) couldn't do any better than something like 12.9 @ 114 mph (again something like that - don't have the mag with me right now). It mentioned, most their times were in the 13s. Also, the engine was probably getting heat soaked with lots of runs.

The car was an automatic ZL1.

But it does show what a skilled driver (even with an auto) can do with the car, compared to the averge person.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:36 AM   #68
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irks you more than people calling their Camaro, "Maro"?
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That irks me too, almost as much as people spelling it CamEro
+1 calling it a "Maro" or spelling it incorrectly is pure folly.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:41 AM   #69
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Anyone get the new GM High Tech Peformance mag?

In it they test the ZL1.
GM High Tech said a "professional driver" that had a lot of experience driving the ZL1 was able to run 12.1 @ 116-117 mph (something like that) in the cooler early morning air.

But later in the day, the average Joe's (press representatives, etc) couldn't do any better than something like 12.9 @ 114 mph (again something like that - don't have the mag with me right now). It mentioned, most their times were in the 13s. Also, the engine was probably getting heat soaked with lots of runs.

The car was an automatic ZL1.

But it does show what a skilled driver (even with an auto) can do with the car, compared to the averge person.
Put a set of 4:56 gears in the ass end of a ZL1 and see what kind of quarter mile you can pull. My guess is the car would dip in the 11's with just that. These cars are geared way too high for quarter mile runs IMHO. I bet little Johnny Beemer would see nothing but tail lights then. ZL1 for the win (with gears)!
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Anyone get the new GM High Tech Peformance mag?

In it they test the ZL1.
GM High Tech said a "professional driver" that had a lot of experience driving the ZL1 was able to run 12.1 @ 116-117 mph (something like that) in the cooler early morning air.

But later in the day, the average Joe's (press representatives, etc) couldn't do any better than something like 12.9 @ 114 mph (again something like that - don't have the mag with me right now). It mentioned, most their times were in the 13s. Also, the engine was probably getting heat soaked with lots of runs.

The car was an automatic ZL1.

But it does show what a skilled driver (even with an auto) can do with the car, compared to the averge person.
Being an auto especially, even if they sucked at the driving, it does NOT explain dropping 5MPH! Something is amiss there......
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Put a set of 4:56 gears in the ass end of a ZL1 and see what kind of quarter mile you can pull. My guess is the car would dip in the 11's with just that. These cars are geared way too high for quarter mile runs IMHO. I bet little Johnny Beemer would see nothing but tail lights then. ZL1 for the win (with gears)!
With that huge MPH difference? Doubt it. Also, since we get to modify the ZL-1 with gears, can we also tune the Bimmer for a few extra extra pounds of boost?
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Well realistially, is there a place tha sells the ZR1 below 120K, brand new? That 30K difference is the same as the 30K difference between the ZL1 and M5.
Actually you can buy a brand new 2013 ZR1 for ~$110k easy.
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Actually you can buy a brand new 2013 ZR1 for ~$110k easy.

Easy? There is one brand new ZR1 listed in the whole country on Autotrader for 111K. The rest are 115K and up.
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Cadillac CTS-V

Would fit the demographic better, and is still better
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