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Old 11-02-2011, 11:15 AM   #1
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FTI 3600 Stall Converter Installed!!!

After 52,000 miles of car abuse, 2 weeks ago I finally decided to put in a FTI 3600 stall converter from RX Performance. The car runs like a champ now. With my mods, I am able to bring the rpms up to about 3000-3200 without breaking the tires loose from a stand still. The car feels great and drives like near stock on the street. FTI builds a top class converter, there is very little slip at low speeds and my gas mileage has hardly suffered. You can hardly notice the stall is there when lightly cruising. I do use sports mode now since it holds the gear longer.

Also while cruising in lower gears, smashing the gas sometimes causes the tires to chirp even with traction control on, lots of fun for some inoccent showing off. The car pulls much stronger than before and the turbo is able to get into boost at lower speeds helping with acceleration even more. However, when cruising at highway speeds and the roads are wet, smashing the gas in Sports mode causes the backend to kick out a little bit since the turbo is at full boost when the tranny rengages at 3600. I don't think you NA guys will have that problem though with the stall. Also at half throttle and going up a hill or in any high load situation while using drive (not sports mode or manual) can cause the car to shift up or tranny slip (not sure which one its doing). Other than those gripes, the stall is perfect!

FTI custom made the stall for my car and my mods and was sold to me through their exclusive dealer for our car, Tracy at RX Performance. $599 for the converter, and $1000 for the install with full trans flush, new trans filter and gasket. I installed a trans cooler myself in about an hour (Tracy from RX supplied the cooler for $79). I dont have a tune for the stall yet but the car still operates great! Vince at Trifecta is whipping something up as we speak though. I wanted to wait and get results and videos before I started a thread but I've been super busy and winter time is here and there's been lots of bad weather recently so I decided not to waste anymore time. I'll add videos and 1/4 results as I get them. I do have two pics though!:



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Old 11-02-2011, 12:20 PM   #2
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I've never heard of one of these before so care to explain what it replaces or aids? As well as what does it do basically? I read your post, but I am still slightly confused about it.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:43 PM   #3
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Sorry about that, I replaced my stock torque converter from my automatic transmission with the FTI 3600 stall torque converter. Now under load the transmission will engage the engine at 3600rpm instead of the stock 1800rpm I guess. It's like having a manual and holding in the clutch and revving the car to 3600 and dumping the clutch. Now from a stop, the car can leave with more power at 3600 because 3600rpm is higher up in the powerband than the stock 1800. Look at any dyno graph of our v6 camaro and you will see that there is more horsepower at 3600rpm than 1800rpm. Also the FTI unit is made of billet therefore its lighter weight and stronger than the stock unit.

The only downside is that since the transmission has to slip in order to get to the set stall amount, more heat is created. Thats why an extra transmission cooler run inline with the stock cooler is neccesary to handle that heat.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:48 PM   #4
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FTI torque converters are some of the best on the market! Talk to Greg over at FTI and he will make a believer out of you. I use him for all my personal stuff and will not use anybody else. The product is amazing and the customer service is even better.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:53 PM   #5
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Wow. a stall speed converter for a camaro. Must see these slips now!
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Old 11-02-2011, 03:13 PM   #6
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We need so new vids!! sounds awesome enjoy
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:00 PM   #7
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The V6 LLT converters are a joint venture between both FTI & RX Performance Products and the results are amazing. These are NOT restalled OEM units requiring a core...they are purpose built for your build.
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:20 PM   #8
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Been waiting so long to see results from one of these puppies...I know of one r two other members here with a stall installed but have yet to see results
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:29 PM   #9
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Been waiting so long to see results from one of these puppies...I know of one r two other members here with a stall installed but have yet to see results
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Old 11-03-2011, 12:08 AM   #10
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Hmmmm why did think you had a stick?
Congrats on the new mod.
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:01 PM   #11
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I hope that the local drag track will be open tomorrow so I can have something for you guys.
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thats awesome. Great write up. Im surprised about the gas milage though, i think I would get eaten with the conditions I drive through but I have an M6 so no worries.
Cant wait to see some vids, and i love the black intercooler, quite the sleeper
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technically speaking, if were getting high 11s/ sub 12s with a 125 shot of nitrous, then, if you get it to launch right and have the power all the way through, which the converter allows for, then we might just have a new beast in the 1/4mile
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:43 PM   #14
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thats awesome. Great write up. Im surprised about the gas milage though, i think I would get eaten with the conditions I drive through but I have an M6 so no worries. Cant wait to see some vids, and i love the black intercooler, quite the sleeper
Thanks TJ, from reading around and talking to people depending on what type of converter lockup vs nonlockup and the quality of the converter can all play a part in the gas efficiency. Like the saleman at BMR says, FTI is one of the best if not the best converter on the market. The car drives near stock when cruising around. My cousin had an early 80's firebird with an "off the shelf" 3000 lockup stall and the car was hard to drive around town because the car could hardly move without flooring it and burned lots of gas. At first he warned me not to buy a stall but when he drove my car recently he was amazed at how the car performed on the street and the great throttle response for such a high stall. FTI & RX FTW!

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technically speaking, if were getting high 11s/ sub 12s with a 125 shot of nitrous, then, if you get it to launch right and have the power all the way through, which the converter allows for, then we might just have a new beast in the 1/4mile
11's or low 12's would be nice! I do have some small DR's that were used on my old mustang that I may try it out but my front tires will be taller than the rear.... I think the nitrous camaros will still have the crown though because their powerband is way better than the turboed powerbands I have seen for our car. The nitrous cars that spray off the line will have way more torque off the line unless I can launch at 4000+rpm or run more boost. I have a feeling that I'll run mid to high 12's or maybe even a low 13. We shall see...
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Thanks TJ, from reading around and talking to people depending on what type of converter lockup vs nonlockup and the quality of the converter can all play a part in the gas efficiency. Like the saleman at BMR says, FTI is one of the best if not the best converter on the market. The car drives near stock when cruising around. My cousin had an early 80's firebird with an "off the shelf" 3000 lockup stall and the car was hard to drive around town because the car could hardly move without flooring it and burned lots of gas. At first he warned me not to buy a stall but when he drove my car recently he was amazed at how the car performed on the street and the great throttle response for such a high stall. FTI FTW!



11's or low 12's would be nice! I do have some small DR's that were used on my old mustang that I may try it out but my front tires will be taller than the rear.... I think the nitrous camaros will still have the crown though because their powerband is way better than the turboed powerbands I have seen for our car. The nitrous cars that spray off the line will have way more torque off the line unless I can launch at 4000+rpm. I have a feeling that I'll run mid to high 12's or maybe even a low 13. We shall see...
Well thats great about the MTI stall!
And either way, running high 12s low 13s will give the stock SSs at the track something to think about
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I use FTI in my Vette..
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:30 PM   #18
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whats about the risk of breaking the engine? with the higher rpm the parts have to work harder
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Who hooked you up Ellis? We also have one in Edgars NMCA/LSX EFI class 2 time world champ car!!
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whats about the risk of breaking the engine? with the higher rpm the parts have to work harder

It's not that you are running at higher RPMs... it's that you are starting out at a higher RPM, when you take off from a stop. You really aren't making your engine work harder, so i wouldn't worry about breaking your engine... You will probably be putting a little more stress on the driveline parts, but I wouldn't worry about that... unless you start running slicks...
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Who hooked you up Ellis? We also have one in Edgars NMCA/LSX EFI class 2 time world champ car!!
Trick question.. Let me think about that for a few..

Ever since I started using the FTI converter, my car has been even MORE dead on consistent! 11.50 Index Track Champion 3 times now at Englishtown!!
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LOL! It's been a while but I had worked on you a while to get you to switch.



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The track is closed today due to bad weather but will be open tomorrow and Sunday. I'll try to get some times tomorrow!

YO-EL, are you running pro-stock with your vette?
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The only issue I ever had with stall convertors is the loss of torque multiplication.

I used them in the past because of camming. Only way I could idle in gear. Loading to 3000 or so, depending on stall, with foot on brake would help launch if you had enough traction.
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