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Old 12-09-2011, 01:01 PM   #477
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THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT ADKINS AND WE KNOW HOW THAT WORKED OUT!!!

Heard the same argument about the STS kit... give them some time... hell, it's been how long and seems no one has been able to just install it and go without some fairly serious issue along the way...

And why the HELL wouldn't potential customers WANT 1/4 mile data! SH*T, the the AAC STS car ran way SLOWER than STOCK!!!

So you are really going to spend $6K (at least) and not know if your car will be faster than a simply modded NA V6 Camaro?
Amen... and if you've been here long enough. You'd know where we are coming from. Lingenfelter, Adkins..etc. This is like deja vu.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:02 PM   #478
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THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT ADKINS AND WE KNOW HOW THAT WORKED OUT!!!

Heard the same argument about the STS kit... give them some time... hell, it's been how long and seems no one has been able to just install it and go without some fairly serious issue along the way...

And why the HELL wouldn't potential customers WANT 1/4 mile data! SH*T, the the AAC STS car ran way SLOWER than STOCK!!!

So you are really going to spend $6K (at least) and not know if your car will be faster than a simply modded NA V6 Camaro?
Granted. I'm not saying don't have your reservations. But until there is a reason to disbelieve...have a smidgen of faith? Try to be positive so that we don't have another Lingenfelter on our hands. Unless I'm mistaken we've been given more info on this kit than any others I've seen of late.

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Old 12-09-2011, 01:05 PM   #479
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Granted. I'm not saying don't have your reservations. But until there is a reason to disbelieve...have a smidgen of faith? Try to be positive so that we don't have another Lingenfelter on our hands. Unless I'm mistaken we've been given more info on this kit than any others I've seen of late.

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Trust me Lingenfelter did NOT give up on their kit because there were some negative posts here...
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:07 PM   #480
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Trust me Lingenfelter did NOT give up on their kit because there were some negative posts here...

If there is money to be made a company will not just give up because they got their feelings hurt.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:11 PM   #481
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I understand none of the kits are perfect by Any means. The only thing I have a disagreement with USA the 435, HP avertised and nobody will see that according to their dyno sheet. I don't know much about rx twin kit but I know the sts kit took alot of modifying to get where I am
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:14 PM   #482
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:17 PM   #483
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I understand none of the kits are perfect by Any means. The only thing I have a disagreement with USA the 435, HP avertised and nobody will see that according to their dyno sheet. I don't know much about rx twin kit but I know the sts kit took alot of modifying to get where I am
Yep... didn't know how much effort you put into your setup... but the few that I've seen were definitely not an install it in your driveway over the weekend and be done... but yet that was how it was sold...
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:24 PM   #484
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Whatever, call me an optimist, call it blind faith... Whatever it is, I'm legitimately excited.

No offence intended here but a low budget shop (comparatively speaking) developing a kit for states that have little to no emissions standards does me absolutely no good. More luck to those of you that can rely on that, I can't, so I'm gonna hedge my bets on someone that hopefully will deliver a kit that can possibly be sold and streeted in CA.

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Old 12-09-2011, 01:30 PM   #485
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Whatever, call me an optimist, call it blind faith... Whatever it is, I'm legitimately excited.

No offence intended here but a low budget shop (comparatively speaking) developing a kit for states that have little to no emissions standards does me absolutely no good. More luck to those of you that can rely on that, I can't, so I'm gonna hedge my bets on someone that hopefully will deliver a kit that can possibly be sold and streeted in CA.

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Old 12-09-2011, 01:32 PM   #486
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Whatever, call me an optimist, call it blind faith... Whatever it is, I'm legitimately excited.

No offence intended here but a low budget shop (comparatively speaking) developing a kit for states that have little to no emissions standards does me absolutely no good. More luck to those of you that can rely on that, I can't, so I'm gonna hedge my bets on someone that hopefully will deliver a kit that can possibly be sold and streeted in CA.

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Your an Optimist! LOL! (sorry)

We've been down this road sooooo many times... it's hard not to be a bit jaded... I try not to be negative... but call me a Realist... if the IPF results had been descent they would have been posting all kinds of info... but right now their silence is deafening...
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Your an Optimist! LOL! (sorry)

We've been down this road sooooo many times... it's hard not to be a bit jaded... I try not to be negative... but call me a Realist... if the IPF results had been descent they would have been posting all kinds of info... but right now their silence is deafening...
I fully understand everyone being jaded, and I'd be lieing if I wasn't a bit myself. I may be relatively new to these forums but I lurk almost daily. I've read the adkins threads and countless others only to find nothing has come from any of it.

I hereby bow out of this debate....for now! Ill be watching u....

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Old 12-09-2011, 01:54 PM   #488
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hi, it's the german guy again

for all of you out there who are a bit unsatisfied or pessimistic, i will say please be patient, our partners over there will provide more information soon.
there is a lot of organisatorical work to do at the moment, and as it was said our guys in the us are not only working to deliver information to this forum.

this project will definetly not end in a dusty corner of an old warehouse, we've put a lot effort in it to build things up until now and we will continue r&d on future projects. btw: we are planning some other nice stuff, so everything runs parallel,this cost a lot of brain, money and espacially time, and our manpower runs into its limits at the moment... so please be patient.

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Old 12-09-2011, 02:30 PM   #489
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I have to agree with scrming. For example, The RX twins were built in a week by what, two or three guys, and pics and videos and even dyno run was posted immeadiatelly. At the end of the week there was also a video of the Gretchen going down the track running a 13.9 and you can clearly see that it had no traction. From day one they showed results even if the kit wasn't perfect yet.

But to the contrary, when the kit is released, all of these arguments will be moot and forgotten if the IPF kit is up to snuff.
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hi, it's the german guy again

for all of you out there who are a bit unsatisfied or pessimistic, i will say please be patient, our partners over there will provide more information soon.
there is a lot of organisatorical work to do at the moment, and as it was said our guys in the us are not only working to deliver information to this forum.

this project will definetly not end in a dusty corner of an old warehouse, we've put a lot effort in it to build things up until now and we will continue r&d on future projects. btw: we are planning some other nice stuff, so everything runs parallel,this cost a lot of brain, money and espacially time, and our manpower runs into its limits at the moment... so please be patient.

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Old 12-09-2011, 03:30 PM   #491
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hi, it's the german guy again

for all of you out there who are a bit unsatisfied or pessimistic, i will say please be patient, our partners over there will provide more information soon.
there is a lot of organisatorical work to do at the moment, and as it was said our guys in the us are not only working to deliver information to this forum.

this project will definetly not end in a dusty corner of an old warehouse, we've put a lot effort in it to build things up until now and we will continue r&d on future projects. btw: we are planning some other nice stuff, so everything runs parallel,this cost a lot of brain, money and espacially time, and our manpower runs into its limits at the moment... so please be patient.

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sorry... organisatorical... not sure what was meant by this... appears to have gotten lost in translation...
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