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Old 10-12-2011, 07:00 PM   #1
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Anyone Care For A Z/36?!

With all the performance concentration placed on V8-engined SS and ZL1 versions (and a possible Z/28?), my thoughts are the V6 market has been all but abandoned...

The V6 versions are important for CAFE

The V6 versions are le$$ expen$ive

The V6 versions are more modestly insured

The V6 versions could be a LOT of "bang for the buck"

So let's build one...and we'll call it the Z/36

* Base 1LS Model 1EE37
* LFX 3.6 V6, 323 hp.
* MN6, 6-speed manual
* FE4 Suspension
* SS Brembo Front Disc Brakes
* ZL1 20" Forged Wheels
* Summer-only "sticky" Tires
* GMPP CAI
* GMPP Stainless Cat-back
* ZL1 Splitter/Spoiler
* 350 hp. (a "magic" Camaro number!)
* 3750 lb. Curb Weight
* 13.90s in the 1/4 (compare that to '60s musclecars!)
* Surprizing road course times...
* Fun to DRIVE!
* Fun to PAY FOR!
* Fun to maintain!

OK, boys and girls, "have at it!"

What do YOU think?!

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Old 10-12-2011, 07:11 PM   #2
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I Like everything but the name. They really should offer some kind of performance upgrade package for the V-6. Our Z28 withdrawals have reduced us to considering V-6 options. That's ok, as long as it doesn't replace Z28.
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No thanks. But I am V8 bias so, sorry.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:21 PM   #4
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:47 PM   #5
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hell yea. we need to own the V6 world. and scare some of those weak v8's. ive already pushed some 4.6 mustangs to the limit and my buddys 5.0 (his skip shift screwed him)
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:50 PM   #6
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350hp-375 hp should fry alot of rice in the v6 world
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:12 PM   #7
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They tried that once....it was called the Z/34 and it was a P.O.S Celebrity that I personally kicked to the curb and traded for a better car...a KIA!

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Why not a z26?
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:09 PM   #9
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as long as its a z/xx i dont care. and apparently nissan has been using the z/33 an z/34 names on the 350 and 370 z. a z/xx v6 camaro is defiantly in order.

perhaps a factory turbo option with the LFX??????
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Z/36 is a reference to its metric engine displacement.

A turbo or two, in the current version, would have you back up to 1SS Curb Weight, essentially...with equivalent LS3 power in OEM tune (425 hp ala "Leno")...not a lighter-on-its-feet result.

I think a turbo'd V6 in the Gen-6 is a distinct possibility. Lighter car, better result.

Some background:

In 1992, two friends and I took an off-the-showroom-floor '92 Pontiac Grand Prix GT (Twin Cam 3.4, AT, no GTP cladding-doodads-weight), installed GTP 16 X 8" wheels with 4-P255/50ZR16 Potenzas, dialed in all the negative camber we could, added Hawk pads, and struck out for the '92 One Lap of America. 4416 miles later, we finished 2nd in Class, 19th Overall, against a very eclectic field of fast cars...in a dealership DEMO.

Don't underestimate the capabilities of W-cars with 3.4s, at least when new "back in the day"...

That result cemented a relationship with Pontiac Racing that lasted for a dozen years...
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They tried that once....it was called the Z/34 and it was a P.O.S Celebrity that I personally kicked to the curb and traded for a better car...a KIA!

Thank GM for the Camaro..I have my balls back!
Celebrity? I'm pretty sure the Z34 was a Lumina...

Z24 - Chevy Cavalier
Z26 - Chevy Beretta
Z28 - Camaro
Z34 - Chevy Lumina
Z71 - Silverado
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:03 AM   #12
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Z34 was a Lumina.
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Hmm, I think it would be cool. But the Z(whatever) should definitely have a lot more to offer than a regular V6. A suspension package would be a must. It would be great if they could make that thing an agile streetfighter. A turbo would also be a nice addition making the car even better.
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Celebrity? I'm pretty sure the Z34 was a Lumina...

Z24 - Chevy Cavalier
Z26 - Chevy Beretta
Z28 - Camaro
Z34 - Chevy Lumina
Z71 - Silverado
Wasn't there a Z85 somewhere in the mix as well?
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:45 AM   #14
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Celebrity? I'm pretty sure the Z34 was a Lumina...

Z24 - Chevy Cavalier
Z26 - Chevy Beretta
Z28 - Camaro
Z34 - Chevy Lumina
Z71 - Silverado
correct, but the Z71 designation is just GMs offroad package. It is also on other models besides the silverado
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Z85 is a HD Rear Shocks package for C/K 1/2 Ton Pickups...

The new-for-'12 LFX V6 starts @ 323 hp. Add a CAI, Cat-Back, and GM tune to the BoschBox, and 350 hp could be your result. Add in a 3.45 or 3.73 rear gear (3.23 is Standard) and you'd have a lively lil gas-sippin' road-carvin' Camaro...

FE4 suspension is a V8-only upgrade currently, so add that to the V6..."Caution: Curves Ahead" will have you smiling!
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as long as its a z/xx i dont care. and apparently nissan has been using the z/33 an z/34 names on the 350 and 370 z. a z/xx v6 camaro is defiantly in order.

perhaps a factory turbo option with the LFX??????
Umm yeah those are the model code names for example the 300ZX was code named Z31 and Z32. The Z cars are actually called Fairlady Z's in Japan. It's the same thing with the Skyline and GT-R R34 and R35 no actual relation to a performance package like the Z/28. Nissan using Z33 is no different than BMW using E92/F20 Etc...


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Why not a z26?
Because name it something that isn't similar to Z/28. Just like a V6 SS would be stepping on the toes of heritage but most 5th gen owners don't care all that much.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:19 PM   #17
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Celebrity? I'm pretty sure the Z34 was a Lumina...

Z24 - Chevy Cavalier
Z26 - Chevy Beretta
Z28 - Camaro
Z34 - Chevy Lumina
Z71 - Silverado
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Hmm, I think it would be cool. But the Z(whatever) should definitely have a lot more to offer than a regular V6. A suspension package would be a must. It would be great if they could make that thing an agile streetfighter. A turbo would also be a nice addition making the car even better.

Wasn't there a Z85 somewhere in the mix as well?
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correct, but the Z71 designation is just GMs offroad package. It is also on other models besides the silverado
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Z85 is a HD Rear Shocks package for C/K 1/2 Ton Pickups...

The new-for-'12 LFX V6 starts @ 323 hp. Add a CAI, Cat-Back, and GM tune to the BoschBox, and 350 hp could be your result. Add in a 3.45 or 3.73 rear gear (3.23 is Standard) and you'd have a lively lil gas-sippin' road-carvin' Camaro...

FE4 suspension is a V8-only upgrade currently, so add that to the V6..."Caution: Curves Ahead" will have you smiling!
there was a z66 for avalanche and i remember that the s10 had one also was zr2 z85 and zm6 http://shop.synergyoffroad.com/2-Bod...oma-PRF192.htm
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:35 PM   #18
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With all the performance concentration placed on V8-engined SS and ZL1 versions (and a possible Z/28?), my thoughts are the V6 market has been all but abandoned...
OK, boys and girls, "have at it!"

What do YOU think?!

The all-new Z/36 for only $29,995
Nah too many Z packages over the years that were just not any good. Lets just call it the V6 performance package. I'd say something like this, lets keep it simple:

- Available on LS, 1LT, and 2LT.
- LFX 3.6 V6, 323 hp.
- 6-speed manual or automatic transmission.
- V6 Performance Package specific wheels w/ Summer-only "sticky" Tires
- Performance Traction Control Settings.
- FE4 Suspension
- Strut tower brace
- Brembo Brake Package.
- 3.70 limited-slip differential.
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Z71 was originally for fulsize 4x4 truck/suvs. it includes off road shocks and suspension, different tires, and skid plates. best i know they have now offered it on 2wd trucks/suvs. and the colorado/canyon models.

ZR2 was the offroad package for S-10 models for a couple years before they got replaced by the canyon/colorado.

Z66 was the ON-road suspension package for the avalanche.

Z85 is the heavy duty trailering suspension package.
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They tried that once....it was called the Z/34 and it was a P.O.S Celebrity that I personally kicked to the curb and traded for a better car...a KIA!

Thank GM for the Camaro..I have my balls back!

There was a Z/34 Celebrity? Sounds like a BAD idea, lol. I had a '92 Z/34 Lumina, that thing was B@D@$$ for its day, VERY fun car to drive.
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Nope. I would have been if I hadn't built the badest Camaro of all time. At this ponit a ZL1, Z/28 or any other Z except for the ZR1 vette would have a tough time keeping up with me. Practically, removed just about everything stock and replaced it with the best aftermarket parts I could get.
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Nah too many Z packages over the years that were just not any good. Lets just call it the V6 performance package. I'd say something like this, lets keep it simple:

- Available on LS, 1LT, and 2LT.
- LFX 3.6 V6, 323 hp.
- 6-speed manual or automatic transmission.
- V6 Performance Package specific wheels w/ Summer-only "sticky" Tires
- Performance Traction Control Settings.
- FE4 Suspension
- Strut tower brace
- Brembo Brake Package.
- 3.70 limited-slip differential.
Every GM RPO requires a 3-digit Option Code...so would you mind if the "V6 Performance Package" was coded Z36?

As the varied examples above show, GM designates Drivetrain/Suspension options, often, with a "Z" prefix...and, to my knowledge, Z36 is available...
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I'm sure some would like a Z36 as you described. I wouldn't, and I certainly wouldn't consider it a substitute for a Z28. To get me up to consideration status, they'd need to go farther than what you posed on the OP. I'd say at least 375 hp, and get the weight well under 3700 lbs. Weight would be doable. But picking up 50+ hp, naturally aspirated, from the factory is not going to be easy on the 3.6L. It can be done of course, but it would take a bit of work.

And now that I've said all that, I still want a Z28. GM can come out with a LFX Z36 too, but I want a proper Z28
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Every GM RPO requires a 3-digit Option Code...so would you mind if the "V6 Performance Package" was coded Z36?

As the varied examples above show, GM designates Drivetrain/Suspension options, often, with a "Z" prefix...and, to my knowledge, Z36 is available...
Of course, its just it wouldn't feel right to me to put a Z** badge on a V6 Camaro. I myself already have the Brembo brake package (calipers and master cylinder), and I plan on upgrading to FE4 eventually. I may buy a ZL1 spoiler because of how much it looks like the one from the Jay Leno concept. I'm also interested in hear how the ZL1 dual mode exhaust would sound on the V6.
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With all the performance concentration placed on V8-engined SS and ZL1 versions (and a possible Z/28?), my thoughts are the V6 market has been all but abandoned...

The V6 versions are important for CAFE

The V6 versions are le$$ expen$ive

The V6 versions are more modestly insured

The V6 versions could be a LOT of "bang for the buck"

So let's build one...and we'll call it the Z/36

* Base 1LS Model 1EE37
* LFX 3.6 V6, 323 hp.
* MN6, 6-speed manual
* FE4 Suspension
* SS Brembo Front Disc Brakes
* ZL1 20" Forged Wheels
* Summer-only "sticky" Tires
* GMPP CAI
* GMPP Stainless Cat-back
* ZL1 Splitter/Spoiler
* 350 hp. (a "magic" Camaro number!)
* 3750 lb. Curb Weight
* 13.90s in the 1/4 (compare that to '60s musclecars!)
* Surprizing road course times...
* Fun to DRIVE!
* Fun to PAY FOR!
* Fun to maintain!

OK, boys and girls, "have at it!"

What do YOU think?!

The all-new Z/36 for only $29,995
GM should hire you and I am not joking.
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