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Old 11-15-2011, 08:57 AM   #51
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GM tends to quote the average performance for their vehicle so a 0-60 in 3.9 seconds (shouldn't be the faster or the slowest) and 12 seconds in the quarter we should get ready to be impressed by some of these testers.

The Z06 had a 3.7 seconds 0-60 rating and its gotten there as fast as 3.4 seconds in the hands of some testers.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:58 AM   #52
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$54,000.......If I could have had it in 2009 when I got my SS I would have ordered it! I have around $46,000 into mine right now with the Maggie SC next to go on for another $7500 installed and that will put me right around $53,500. As you can see, I have already run a 12.11 @ 117MPH on stock tires with my current set-up and with the addition of the SC and a set of "sticky" rear tires I will be in the low 11's for the same price (before taxes) of the ZL1.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:58 AM   #53
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who finances for 36 months? Money is so cheap right now 72 months at sub 3% interest rates for excellent credit is the way to go!
Fair enough - just pointing out the passion we have for our toys. And the comparable value we are trading.

At the end of 36 months your investment will be worth 70% less. You could be paid off or you could owe for 36 more months. This has taken an ugly turn, pull up, pull up ahhhhhhh.

These are fun toys and worth every penny. be wise in your affordability thinking my fellow camaro5 members, enjoy it if you got it.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:59 AM   #54
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Fair enough - just pointing out the passion we have for our toys. And the comparable value we are trading.

At the end of 36 months your investment will be worth 70% less. You could be paid off or you could owe for 36 more months. This has taken an ugly turn, pull up, pull up ahhhhhhh.

These are fun toys and worth every penny. be wise in your affordability thinking my fellow camaro5 members, enjoy it if you got it.
70% value lost over 3 years is a bit much, I believe the Camaro (according to rating companies) will drop about 40% of its value over 3 years. Though I can see this being market dependent and in some markets the value being lower.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:01 AM   #55
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I can finally beat my neighbor to the grocery store! haha
Unfortunately my neighbor drives a new Porsche Turbo. Even the ZR1 Vette doesn't get the job done in a straight line drag race.

But who's willing to spend $160K for a toy? That does make the ZL1 Camaro seem inexpensive.

But like I said in the previous post. For the people who have money, its no big deal spending $60K. Its the working man with a wife and kids, that's got a real hard job convincing the wife he's needs a $60K Camaro.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:01 AM   #56
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Ouch...we just got owned by Ford boys.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:03 AM   #57
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LOL. Why is it that ford always seems a year behind in the horsepower? Chevy had in the works for a 2012 camaro ZL1 and then for 2013 ford releases its GT500 with so much power... Do they not realize that, that gives chevy ammo or a goal to shoot for in one year? For 2012 the camaro is still the car to beat STOCK VS STOCK in this war. Not a 2012 vs 2013 or a 2011 vs 2012 or however these magazines compare them. I am tired of different year comparisons. Do a straight up base camaro and mustang NON-PAID for or BIAS run on them both, then the same for the top of the line camaro and mustang out of the FORD or CHEVY factory and lets see who wins. That means Shelby Mustangs are out. If they were in, that means Hennessy camaro would beat it hands down EVERY time. So factory built only cars, and guess what... camaro wins. No matter what you say a shelby mustang is NOT FORD BUILT. It is SHELBY factory built. The camaro ZL1 is CHEVY/GM built. Let the bashing and stupid talk BEGIN!!!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:03 AM   #58
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70% value lost over 3 years is a bit much, I believe the Camaro (according to rating companies) will drop about 40% of its value over 3 years. Though I can see this being market dependent and in some markets the value being lower.

The camaro is following the same value curve as the charger when it was released. Buying a three year old sports car for 60 percent of the price of a new much faster version? Seems unlikely.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:03 AM   #59
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Ouch...we just got owned by Ford boys.
If you're obsessed with HP figures and marketing materials, then I guess.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:04 AM   #60
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The price is within the range I expected. Somewhere in between very much worth it and I can't afford it. I had said 52880. When talking with folks I've been saying I expect between 52-55k.

I'm just a touch surprised that we didn't get <12 in the quarter. That was important to me. That is the only place where I am non-astounded.

It's a done deal. My price barrier was always 55k base.

One more tenth of a second in the quarter would have meant a lot to me, but I guess that will just give me a short term goal with mods.

You should look at the trap speed not the E.T.
They are getting upper teens (119 mph traps) in the ZL1. That means the car is capable of easy mid 11s with good driving.
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At that price point, I'd rather spend the couple extra grand and get CTS-V coupe instead. Shouldn't have exceeded $50k imo.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:05 AM   #62
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At that price point, I'd rather spend the couple extra grand and get CTS-V coupe instead. Shouldn't have exceeded $50k imo.
A couple extra? try about 10k
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:05 AM   #63
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i guess im getting a gt500 or a used z06 very disappointed
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:05 AM   #64
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HA!!! That is all...
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:05 AM   #65
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How's your magnetic ride?
What a cheap shot lol.......I'm a little disappointed by the times. Should be a great car but I'll keep my built SS. Did 650 to the wheels with suspension and motor upgrades and still well under 54k. Didn't need magnetic ride to run low 10s on street tires, just better suspension parts. I love the car and am excited to see it, but for the price I would get a slightly used ZO6. There's one here for 49k with 15k miles on it. I ran 11.5s on just a procharger with nothing else done before I decided to build up the motor. Hopefully the 12.0 is conservative and it can get mid 11s. The new Shelby should be real close to high 11s so I would expect the ZL1 to hopefully beat it.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:06 AM   #66
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Very good GM. Very Good. Less than the GT500 with a trackpack. I believe the qtr times with nice tires will be in 11's no prob. NONE. I'm excited. Thanks again GM.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:08 AM   #67
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While I'm a Camaro nut as I have 4, I think the camaro's problem is its weight. It needs to lose some 500lbs

then and only then will it compare with the Stangs on th 1/4mile and won't need a rolling start.

What was the weight difference between a 67 camaro and a 67 stang?

And the problem for we Canadians is only 54000$ in the USA but 64000$ in Canada even though the dollar has same weight.

Chevrolet needs to also lose the 10000$ extra cost for Canadians:(
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We'll have to track the convertible model at the upcoming auto shows. It was stated that it would be the 2013 model. I'm hoping for some facelifting with the 2013 model. The 2013 Mustang sure has made some changes.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:08 AM   #69
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I don't do any quarter mile stuff. Why would they do it from a rolling start, what difference is there in the times vs. a static start, and how do you go from ZERO-60 or a 1/4 mile from a rolling start?
Rolling start is usually slower..
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That is a Bargin....Thank you GM!!!

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Rolling start is usually slower..
I think you might be off on that one, a rolling strat is usually good for shaving .3 seconds of your 0-60.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:11 AM   #72
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:13 AM   #73
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Wonder what that price is gonna equate to here in Canada!!
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:13 AM   #74
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I've said all along this car would be priced in the mid fifties, in the same ballpark of a performance package GT500.

But with the announcement today of the 650hp no gas guzzler tax GT500, it looks like Fords both out-powered and under-priced the ZL1.
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When I say I'd rather spend the extra on a CTS-V Coupe... keep in mind they've been discounted a lot at dealerships enough so that you can get them in the mid $50k's... Don't believe me... call a dearler!
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