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Old 11-15-2011, 11:27 AM   #1
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Synthetic oil vs regular oil

Hey guys, I have a 2011 Camaro 2LT RS (I'm in Canada btw)

I got my first oil change and it was about 66 dollars @ 7500km. I was thinking of switching too full synthetic oil. However, I wanna make sure that its safe for my car and it won't void my warranty. I tried too read through the manual too find if its safe, and in the manual it doesn't say anything.

So my question is how much does an synthetic oil change cost? is it safe? and how long can I drive before i need to change the oil?

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Old 11-15-2011, 11:32 AM   #2
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Yes do it! It's more safe than regular. It costs a little bit more but worth it. I change my oil every 5,000 miles. I use mobile 1 5w-30 fully synthetic
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:34 AM   #3
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Full synthetic` will work fine. The warranty will not be voided. Use the Oil Life Monitor. The OLM is explained in the owner's manual. Do the change yourself and it will cost less than the dealer's conventional change.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:46 AM   #4
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Brainwavewow, CONGRATS on the Ride.....I have TWO GM cars, BOTH of they have the same engine in them, the 3.6 D.I. V6, ones my Camaro....they come with regular oil in them, my other is my STS Caddy, same engine....BUT it came from the factory with Mobil1. SO...."WHAT GOOD FOR THE GOOSE, IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER"

THUS, BOTH have MOBIL1 in them, and always will.

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Old 11-15-2011, 11:47 AM   #5
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Full synthetic and change it far more frequent from the OLM. I wouldn't go past 5000 miles or so, your timing chains will thank you. That motor and old oil are an early death sentence for the timing chains.
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:16 PM   #6
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Thanks for the warm welcome, sir nuke!

So it looks like synthetic is the way to go! I only did my first oil change at 7500km because when i was looking at my oil life monitor, it said there was about 5% oil life, however, in the manual, it says when the low oil life comes on you should change it within the next 1000km. I didn't wanna wait THAT long, but doing it every 5000km seems very conservative!

@ Russell: I have to change it more frequent then the regular DEXOS that the car originally uses?
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:22 PM   #7
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My OLM currently says 11% and I have 12,092 miles on this oil. I changed the filter and added the make up oil when the OLM said 50%. I changed the filter because I am using a PF48 filter. Should I be worried? Not even a chance. I sleep soundly knowing I have that many miles on the oil.

When I change the oil I am going to send in a sample to have it analyzed and post my results.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:34 PM   #8
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Yep, this confirms my thoughts. I'll be switching to synthetic on my first oil change, which I'll be doing myself. Besides Mobile1, any recommendations on oil choices? And filters?
I'm thinking since I plan on keeping this camaro for a longgggg time, I'll buy a wholesale lot of oil and filters. Spend more now, save money later....
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:48 PM   #9
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AMSOIL.......... I'm switching to it my next oil change...
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:22 AM   #10
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Guess I'm from the old school, but I am sticking with the dino fluid for my ride. I have had everything from high reving 4 bangers to 460 cubic inch monsters over the years and I have never encountered motor problems. I say use what you feel comfortable with.
By the way, I use Valvoline Premium Conventional.
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Old 11-20-2011, 10:22 PM   #11
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I suggest Mobil1 5w-30 synthetic and it is better than conventional oil. I change my oil at around 50% on the OLM and I wouldn't go beyond 5K. In terms of cost you'd be looking at $75-$95 to have it done depending on where you go.

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Old 11-20-2011, 11:27 PM   #12
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I switched to syn after the 1st year and the OLM gave me twice as long on the oil.

Engine start up has less clatter. I do them myself and you get 5 Qts at Wally Mart for 24bucks in the USA.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:18 PM   #13
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I switched to syn after the 1st year and the OLM gave me twice as long on the oil.

Engine start up has less clatter. I do them myself and you get 5 Qts at Wally Mart for 24bucks in the USA.
The OLM has no way of knowing the kind of oil used. The oil is not analyzed by the OLM.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:26 PM   #14
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These cars arent from the days of old. You can go more miles on these cars in between oil changes regardless if you use conventional or synthetic. Although, to play it safe you can always do an oil change sooner (3-5K miles) but there hasnt been any proof that going by the OLM on the car will cause any damage to your car. At least I havent seen any. It's all just people's opinions. I have 54K mile on the camaro and take it in for an oil change 5-10% oil life remaining. No issues, car runs great.
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:16 PM   #15
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The OLM has no way of knowing the kind of oil used. The oil is not analyzed by the OLM.
Very true, but if the synthetic were to reduce running temps in some shape or form then the OLM would go longer.
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:06 PM   #16
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My oil comes out every 3k with syn oil. Convent oil is okay to. If you do it every 3k. I still do every 3k with synthetic
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:21 PM   #17
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This was posted a few months back. It is some good info and you can take what you want from it. I choose to go by the OLM. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145143
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:37 PM   #18
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GM has 100 000 mile waranty on the drive train on this cars , if the oil needed to be changed more often then OLM calls for you can be shure GM would let you know .
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:23 PM   #19
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Everyone has a different opinion on this it seems... Do whatever makes you happy. I did my first change at 500 (mobil1 full synthetic). I will be changing the filter every 3k and the oil every 6k. Is it overkill? Maybe. Should I change it more often? Possibly. But that is what I am happy with. As for doing it yourself or taking it somewhere... Last two times I took a car to a shop for oil change, ended up with a stripped drain plug... NEVER again! Just my two cents.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:08 AM   #20
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Sorry, but that is ridiculous. Even the cheapest Fram OCOD can last 6000 miles.
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Sorry, but that is ridiculous. Even the cheapest Fram OCOD can last 6000 miles.
Ok... AND?
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My oil comes out every 3k with syn oil. Convent oil is okay to. If you do it every 3k. I still do every 3k with synthetic
Same here, every 3K or every 3 months whichever comes first. Most of the time I'm around 3500 miles or so with the synthetic. Using Mobil 1 5W30 and WIX filter. I do the same for my daughter's Cruze and my wife's 2010 Camaro. Just old school I guess, but in the end it's worth it.
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Same here, every 3K or every 3 months whichever comes first. Most of the time I'm around 3500 miles or so with the synthetic. Using Mobil 1 5W30 and WIX filter. I do the same for my daughter's Cruze and my wife's 2010 Camaro. Just old school I guess, but in the end it's worth it.
I don't mind changing my either. The say syn oil can go longer. But I bet if they pulled a engine that was changed every 3k and looked at it vs one changed every 8k the 3k one will look much cleaner
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Ok... AND?
It's simple, you are throwing money in a fire pit going to Synthetic in a 2LT and not utilizing the OLM.

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Same here, every 3K or every 3 months whichever comes first. Most of the time I'm around 3500 miles or so with the synthetic. Using Mobil 1 5W30 and WIX filter. I do the same for my daughter's Cruze and my wife's 2010 Camaro. Just old school I guess, but in the end it's worth it.
WIX filter isn't any better than a PF48.

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I don't mind changing my either. The say syn oil can go longer. But I bet if they pulled a engine that was changed every 3k and looked at it vs one changed every 8k the 3k one will look much cleaner
Not true in the least. Depending on the oil manufacturers additive package and its cleaning abilities the 8k OCI engine could be just as clean and even possibly cleaner.
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