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Old 02-08-2012, 07:01 PM   #51
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And Headers are off the table. Instead I got my Serp belt/AC belt replaced, Right signal/running lamp socket replaced because it literally burned up/melted, and had my oil changed while it was up on the lift.

Damage: $300 bucks because the socket was more of a PITA than anyone thought.

Now that the car actually runs great again, plans have changed. Need to stash 250 for my A&P, leaving me probably another 250 for.. nothing.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:07 PM   #52
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Hey Zabo how do you like your short stick? I'm thinking about buying that one but can't decide if I want to or not. It's cheap but I'm just not sure lol.
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Hey Zabo how do you like your short stick? I'm thinking about buying that one but can't decide if I want to or not. It's cheap but I'm just not sure lol.
I'd go 6.5" if you're worried about going too short. With the bushing removed (fused to the stock stick) the stock T56 Hurst linkage almost feels like a gated shifter. Much better shift response and is a snap to install. No more bouncing out of gear unless I royally flub the shift or shift while rolling on the throttle (lockouts engage).

Nothing but praise here for the shifter. If you do go with it though, the boot will have a good bit of slack. Easy way is to get a black zip tie and with the boot turned inside out cinch it up to the shifter.
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i have the 6" one and it works great but i have the stock Hurst shifter. if you have the base non hurst one then get the 6.5".
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I have stock hurst. I'm thinking 6.5 because I don't want to go to short.
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the 6 is perfect, tho i dont think there will be too much of a real difference over a 1/2 inch. either one is way better then the stock one.
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And Headers are off the table. Instead I got my Serp belt/AC belt replaced, Right signal/running lamp socket replaced because it literally burned up/melted, and had my oil changed while it was up on the lift.

Damage: $300 bucks because the socket was more of a PITA than anyone thought.

Now that the car actually runs great again, plans have changed. Need to stash 250 for my A&P, leaving me probably another 250 for.. nothing.
you can get some used headers for cheap. doesn't have to be brand new.

and who the hell did you pay $300 to to fix a melted socket?
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you can get some used headers for cheap. doesn't have to be brand new.

and who the hell did you pay $300 to to fix a melted socket?
x2...It takes 30 minutes max to do it by yourself with a soldering iron. Pigtail is only $9, and even if the housing was melted it's only ~$30 and simple to remove.

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you can get some used headers for cheap. doesn't have to be brand new.

and who the hell did you pay $300 to to fix a melted socket?
Tried, most I can find are around 350 shipped if they're willing. None of the guys around here I know know of any available either so I'm gonna hold out for what I want: TSP 1 7/8ths and a Y, Bosch O2s, tune all at the same time.

Ironically, the socket itself is almost 60 bucks (I went up market and we backtracked the wiring for good measure because it was on the accident side). After the fiasco I had with my honda (turn signal repair turned into an entire wiring harness replacement!) trying to repair that wiring I just said f'k it and let the pros do it. Not fun or easy since getting to that f'kin running lamp/turn signal socket is a bitch and having to cut/solder it out ain't a picnic either.

Also had 'em toss on a new serp belt and AC belt while it was up in the air. 180 bucks in parts all together (requested gatorbacks and got 'em). Think it was close to 90 to do the socket, 70 bucks labor for the belts because it I said f'k it, 80 bucks for the belts themselves (50/30) and I tossed my oil change in the back and they just tossed that in there with a disposal fee for my old oil (BS labor number we agreed on).

I take my car to this shop all the time and that's why I wanted them to do the belts right (no exp doing the belts myself and I didn't want to **** that up) as well as the socket. Oil change was just being put off because I had a suspect leak that turned out to be nothing major.

ON the flip side, found a possible buyer for my 2 16x8s that survived the wreck. An OEM wheel supplier out of detroit that a few buddies of mine have done work with before. May do a straight trade toward a '96 WS6 orphan wheel they've got (weird ass silver paint/machine lip job). Buddy up there knows someone with three (4th was damaged by curb rash) and may cut me a deal. Could get the wheels within 250 bucks when all is said and done. Do a CETA-like wheel that's powdercoated satin black/gold lip instead of gloss. Fit up some custom 3rd gen center cap emblems on some blanks from Roush.
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Tried, most I can find are around 350 shipped if they're willing. None of the guys around here I know know of any available either so I'm gonna hold out for what I want: TSP 1 7/8ths and a Y, Bosch O2s, tune all at the same time.
Beggars can't be choosers.

You will not notice a difference between TSP headers, Hooker headers, Pacesetters, etc. 1 HP on a dyno doesnt mean squat. I had hooker LT's shipped to my door for $365.00. and that was nearly 10 years ago. You are either looking in the wrong places or not enough places.



Ironically, the socket itself is almost 60 bucks (I went up market and we backtracked the wiring for good measure because it was on the accident side). After the fiasco I had with my honda (turn signal repair turned into an entire wiring harness replacement!) trying to repair that wiring I just said f'k it and let the pros do it. Not fun or easy since getting to that f'kin running lamp/turn signal socket is a bitch and having to cut/solder it out ain't a picnic either.

I'm sure if you buy it from the dealer or from the repair shop, the socket is 60 bucks. no junkyards up there in the mid west?

Also had 'em toss on a new serp belt and AC belt while it was up in the air. 180 bucks in parts all together (requested gatorbacks and got 'em). Think it was close to 90 to do the socket, 70 bucks labor for the belts because it I said f'k it, 80 bucks for the belts themselves (50/30) and I tossed my oil change in the back and they just tossed that in there with a disposal fee for my old oil (BS labor number we agreed on).

change your own damn belts and oil. take the oil to autozone and dispose of it for free. you might as well just throw your money out the window as you are driving down the road.

I take my car to this shop all the time and that's why I wanted them to do the belts right (no exp doing the belts myself and I didn't want to **** that up) as well as the socket. Oil change was just being put off because I had a suspect leak that turned out to be nothing major.
DUDE!!! COME ON!!!


The A/C belt, I can understand not wanting to mess with it. but the main belt? you need one wratchet, or a breaker bar to release the tensioner.

did you buy a new tensioner while you were at it?


ON the flip side, found a possible buyer for my 2 16x8s that survived the wreck. An OEM wheel supplier out of detroit that a few buddies of mine have done work with before. May do a straight trade toward a '96 WS6 orphan wheel they've got (weird ass silver paint/machine lip job). Buddy up there knows someone with three (4th was damaged by curb rash) and may cut me a deal. Could get the wheels within 250 bucks when all is said and done. Do a CETA-like wheel that's powdercoated satin black/gold lip instead of gloss. Fit up some custom 3rd gen center cap emblems on some blanks from Roush.
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x2...It takes 30 minutes max to do it by yourself with a soldering iron. Pigtail is only $9, and even if the housing was melted it's only ~$30 and simple to remove.

As for headers he's right, ask BullDogWinters.
I paid 20 bucks... 10 for header paint.. so 30 bucks total
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I paid 20 bucks... 10 for header paint.. so 30 bucks total
Unfortunately I haven't found a deal like that yet. Passed up a flowtech 1 3/4 and pacesetter Y setup for 200 but my money situation wasn't solid. Now that it is oh well.

Spike: Its my dd, kinda need to do it right the first time be it costing me money or no. That 300 was a hard schlong to swallow for simple stupid shit.

Belts - I had no access to the shop for the past 2 and next month. I'm barred from working like that in my parents garage because they're lovey dovey with hoa and all that shit. No friends with a local shop either as an alternate

Oil- See above, I'd have changed the oil already if not for that.

Socket- no f bodies here.. Srsly..

So I had to eat it. Tensioner was fine so we left it alone. I'll get a good one down the road when I do an underdrive. Am I gonna DIY next time? Yeah, when I don't have people bitching about me even painting in the garage..
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Unfortunately I haven't found a deal like that yet. Passed up a flowtech 1 3/4 and pacesetter Y setup for 200 but my money situation wasn't solid. Now that it is oh well.

Spike: Its my dd, kinda need to do it right the first time be it costing me money or no. That 300 was a hard schlong to swallow for simple stupid shit.

Belts - I had no access to the shop for the past 2 and next month. I'm barred from working like that in my parents garage because they're lovey dovey with hoa and all that shit. No friends with a local shop either as an alternate

Oil- See above, I'd have changed the oil already if not for that.

Socket- no f bodies here.. Srsly..

So I had to eat it. Tensioner was fine so we left it alone. I'll get a good one down the road when I do an underdrive. Am I gonna DIY next time? Yeah, when I don't have people bitching about me even painting in the garage..
Lol I don't think they'd be able to find you in the time it takes to do the belt. If you got a lid you don't have to remove anything to get to them. You just need a decent sized ratchet and 15 mm socket. I can get to both of em from the top. If they give you trouble tell em to shove it.

You're talking about the socket that the running light/turn signal plugs into right? If you go to Advance, Autozone or any other parts store they'll have it for $8.99. I did mine myself, the wires are long enough that you can pull them out through the hole in the bumper and solder them there.

For the headers you just gotta be patient for somebody like me who had ARH's and was just trying to get rid of the headers. haha
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Lol I don't think they'd be able to find you in the time it takes to do the belt. If you got a lid you don't have to remove anything to get to them. You just need a decent sized ratchet and 15 mm socket. I can get to both of em from the top. If they give you trouble tell em to shove it.

You're talking about the socket that the running light/turn signal plugs into right? If you go to Advance, Autozone or any other parts store they'll have it for $8.99. I did mine myself, the wires are long enough that you can pull them out through the hole in the bumper and solder them there.

For the headers you just gotta be patient for somebody like me who had ARH's and was just trying to get rid of the headers. haha
Nah, socket was the dual filament running lamp/turn signal socket, not the marker lamp. Totally fried. New part was either 34 for a cheapo chinese POS or the AC Delco beefy one at 56 bucks from Advance Auto. I went Delco because I didn't feel like getting in there to replace it again.. and again.

In other news, buyer for my wheels backed out because they weren't 'perfect' or whatnot. OEM wheel reseller. So now I'm gonna just scrap the f'kers unless someone here wants some 16x8s for slicks. Get .50 for 'em and use the left over 250 I've got from taxes on my loans. No mods this year. Gonna do Headers and a Y in one shot since I can't mate 'em up to my stock Y pipe. Cat delete and use Bosch O2s to get some slack on the harness.

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Nah, socket was the dual filament running lamp/turn signal socket, not the marker lamp. Totally fried. New part was either 34 for a cheapo chinese POS or the AC Delco beefy one at 56 bucks from Advance Auto. I went Delco because I didn't feel like getting in there to replace it again.. and again.

In other news, buyer for my wheels backed out because they weren't 'perfect' or whatnot. OEM wheel reseller. So now I'm gonna just scrap the f'kers unless someone here wants some 16x8s for slicks. Get .50 for 'em and use the left over 250 I've got from taxes on my loans. No mods this year. Gonna do Headers and a Y in one shot since I can't mate 'em up to my stock Y pipe. Cat delete and use Bosch O2s to get some slack on the harness.

That's what I'm talking about. It's P/N 85881 at the parts store.


How much you looking for the wheels? I might be interested if I can scrounge up some extra cash.
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That's what I'm talking about. It's P/N 85881 at the parts store.


How much you looking for the wheels? I might be interested if I can scrounge up some extra cash.
This was what I replaced:



I'd let 'em go for 125, but I don't want to ship 'em.
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Yep that's the piece, $7.99 per Autozone's website.

Yea shipping is probably more hassle than they are worth.
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Yup, autozone didn't have em I'm their computers anymore here. Only place that had em under 60 was advance auto. The china crap and ac delco. Stuck with delco.

As for the rims I don't blame ya. May not even be worth the gas to get em to a yard. Put an apb out for headers so blah..
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Update: Someone found a NIB TSP ORY for 110 shipped. And maybe some ebay headers? Rice ball TARUANS AMU!



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Unfortunately I haven't found a deal like that yet. Passed up a flowtech 1 3/4 and pacesetter Y setup for 200 but my money situation wasn't solid. Now that it is oh well.

Spike: Its my dd, kinda need to do it right the first time be it costing me money or no. That 300 was a hard schlong to swallow for simple stupid shit.

Belts - I had no access to the shop for the past 2 and next month. I'm barred from working like that in my parents garage because they're lovey dovey with hoa and all that shit. No friends with a local shop either as an alternate

Oil- See above, I'd have changed the oil already if not for that.

Socket- no f bodies here.. Srsly..

So I had to eat it. Tensioner was fine so we left it alone. I'll get a good one down the road when I do an underdrive. Am I gonna DIY next time? Yeah, when I don't have people bitching about me even painting in the garage..
HOA can't fine you or prevent you from making emergency repairs (ie changing a faulty belt or replacing signal lights). If they try to, take them to court.


you have no access to a wal mart parking lot? you do realize how simple it is to change your belt right? not trying to be a jerk, but man you are bringing your own troubles on yourself.

and yes, I've changed my oil in a Napa parking lot... numerous times.

I understand the car is your DD, but at the same time, you can make temp repairs that you may have to check once a week till you get it properly fixed and save yourself some money and hassle.

I used to carry a set of drive up ramps with me in the 94Z all the time because my header bolts kept backing out and I didn't want to spend the coin to buy stage 8 locking bolts.

I could give you a laundry list of shit that I've jerry-rigged on my cars to make due until I had time to properly fix it because I hate the thought of wasting money paying someone to do something that I can do for free.



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Nah, socket was the dual filament running lamp/turn signal socket, not the marker lamp. Totally fried. New part was either 34 for a cheapo chinese POS or the AC Delco beefy one at 56 bucks from Advance Auto. I went Delco because I didn't feel like getting in there to replace it again.. and again.

In other news, buyer for my wheels backed out because they weren't 'perfect' or whatnot. OEM wheel reseller. So now I'm gonna just scrap the f'kers unless someone here wants some 16x8s for slicks. Get .50 for 'em and use the left over 250 I've got from taxes on my loans. No mods this year. Gonna do Headers and a Y in one shot since I can't mate 'em up to my stock Y pipe. Cat delete and use Bosch O2s to get some slack on the harness.

I've got a Pacesetter Xpipe sitting in my storage locker. Have you put your stuff up for sale on LS1tech or Z28.com?

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Old 02-10-2012, 08:58 AM   #71
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HOA can't fine you or prevent you from making emergency repairs (ie changing a faulty belt or replacing signal lights). If they try to, take them to court.

I understand the car is your DD, but at the same time, you can make temp repairs that you may have to check once a week till you get it properly fixed and save yourself some money and hassle.
Yeah, tell me about it.. comes with the free rent though, so gotta pick your battles (and spend the coin). Also local cops kinda do this thing where they ignore the whole 'wally world private property thing' and try to kick you off for loitering/trespassing and threaten to tow for fixing something in the lot. Not f'king kidding. Bozhe Moi..

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What I could I did, just got the wheels left and a delco amp that came out of the donor quarter.

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I'll keep y'all posted. Got a guy that wants it local to the seller so he's keeping me posted whether or not he can do the deal or not (save all of 20 bucks shipping?). Told him the cash is waiting so if he does the deal cool, if not.. well at least he told me straight up about it.

Probably gonna do the basic T304 1 7/8ths Ebays with the AIR/EGR ports since they sound almost identical to Pacesetters and TSPs. I can just get blockoffs made once I do AIR/EGR Deletes.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:12 AM   #72
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Yeah, tell me about it.. comes with the free rent though, so gotta pick your battles (and spend the coin). Also local cops kinda do this thing where they ignore the whole 'wally world private property thing' and try to kick you off for loitering/trespassing and threaten to tow for fixing something in the lot. Not f'king kidding. Bozhe Moi..
I can guarantee you that the guys at Autozone will not call the cops if you change your belt in their parking lot.

You are just throwing up roadblocks now man. Like mentioned before, by the time the cops even saw your hood up, you could have a belt changed.


What I could I did, just got the wheels left and a delco amp that came out of the donor quarter.



I'll keep y'all posted. Got a guy that wants it local to the seller so he's keeping me posted whether or not he can do the deal or not (save all of 20 bucks shipping?). Told him the cash is waiting so if he does the deal cool, if not.. well at least he told me straight up about it.

Probably gonna do the basic T304 1 7/8ths Ebays with the AIR/EGR ports since they sound almost identical to Pacesetters and TSPs. I can just get blockoffs made once I do AIR/EGR Deletes.
you haven't done the AIR and EGR deletes yet? you can buy a plug for the exhaust manifolds from the parts store and just pull the cb for the AIR system.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:45 AM   #73
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you haven't done the AIR and EGR deletes yet? you can buy a plug for the exhaust manifolds from the parts store and just pull the cb for the AIR system.
Ok ok.. I give. Enough with the woulda coulda shoulda stuff. You've guilt tripped me enough man.. Anywho, no, I haven't done AIR/EGR yet. Nor have I done the TB bypass yet either. SAVE THE CHILDREN! SACRILEGE!

Figured AZ would have a plug for the manifolds. Any idea how the engine would react to having the AIR/EGR shut down but still on the car (aside from the idiot light)?

Kinda want to throw them on without having the dash go all christmas tree on me or causing a lean/rich condition on it.
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Ok ok.. I give. Enough with the woulda coulda shoulda stuff. You've guilt tripped me enough man.. Anywho, no, I haven't done AIR/EGR yet. Nor have I done the TB bypass yet either. SAVE THE CHILDREN! SACRILEGE!

Figured AZ would have a plug for the manifolds. Any idea how the engine would react to having the AIR/EGR shut down but still on the car (aside from the idiot light)?

Kinda want to throw them on without having the dash go all christmas tree on me or causing a lean/rich condition on it.
I'm just saying, don't complain that you have to spend all this money when you have the option to do things yourself but choose not to.

If I can make a 94Z28 run consistent 11's for $2500 (including the cost of the car) in my driveway and random parking lots, you can surely do this stuff on your own.

TB bypass I would hold off on till spring.

If you don't have brand new rear o2 sensors, just pull the whole damn thing off and plug it up. Its primary purpose is to help preheat the Cats to cut down on emissions.

its just extra weight at this point. you aren't going for an original, numbers matching car and its easy enough to do.

Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I am trying to get you to see that if you are budget constrained, you need to be doing the majority of the work yourself. whether its at a friends house, or in an autozone parking lot, do the easy stuff yourself and put that money towards mods.
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I'm just saying, don't complain that you have to spend all this money when you have the option to do things yourself but choose not to.

If I can make a 94Z28 run consistent 11's for $2500 (including the cost of the car) in my driveway and random parking lots, you can surely do this stuff on your own.

TB bypass I would hold off on till spring.

If you don't have brand new rear o2 sensors, just pull the whole damn thing off and plug it up. Its primary purpose is to help preheat the Cats to cut down on emissions.

its just extra weight at this point. you aren't going for an original, numbers matching car and its easy enough to do.

Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I am trying to get you to see that if you are budget constrained, you need to be doing the majority of the work yourself. whether its at a friends house, or in an autozone parking lot, do the easy stuff yourself and put that money towards mods.
Yeah, I know I know. Just bit the bullet without thinking and instead kinda got boned. Live and learn. Luckily it wasn't all that bad and I'm still within budget to make Headers happen.
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