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Old 04-11-2009, 03:09 PM   #1
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Some very strange questions...

This may sound kind of ridiculous, but I'm just curious...

When a new car is shipped, is it already topped off with all required fluids/etc or is this done at the dealer? The reason I ask is because I have a specific windshield washer fluid that I like to use and I absolutely love it. It is Rain-X De-Icer w/ Bug Remover (or something like that). But it's incredible and after a while, you barely ever have to use your wipers... the water just beads up and rolls off. I never really noticed this when I got my last car and it did not happen when it was raining... I felt like I could barely see, haha... I promptly held the button down and drained the entire thing, and put some new stuff in... it's been beautiful ever since!!

This also reminds me of another question... in my last car (2002 Dodge Stratus Coupe), a warning light would come on when I was low/out of windshield washer fluid. I loved that! In my new car (2008 Fusion), that is the only thing that seems to be missing... one cay I was using the fluid, and all the sudden it just died... GONE. And NO WARNING LIGHT... I was pissed!! I've looked through all of the Camaro manuals that have been posted, and I didn't see this warning light listed (I remember seeing somewhere a listing of all of the lights). This makes me sad :( Can anyone confirm this?
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Old 04-11-2009, 03:38 PM   #2
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No idea about the warning light. As far as the fluids I am pretty sure that they are all topped off from the factory, except for the gas. The dealer just checks to make sure all fluid levels are good and if not then they add.
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Old 04-11-2009, 03:55 PM   #3
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You could always remove the stock fluid. I've done that before when someone topped me off with water instead of wiper fluid.
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:32 PM   #4
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Yea, they come in with everything but gas. I guess it's hazardous to ship things that can explode (insert extreme sarcasm). I will try that fluid though, I swear by rain-x.
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:35 PM   #5
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You could always remove the stock fluid. I've done that before when someone topped me off with water instead of wiper fluid.
This is what I did with my current car - but I just held down the switch and let it run until it was empty. Is there a faster way to do this?
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Why waste good fluid and let it drain down? Just add yours when the factory juice runs out.
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:49 PM   #7
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This is what I did with my current car - but I just held down the switch and let it run until it was empty. Is there a faster way to do this?
Get a hose and suck.........
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:50 PM   #8
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Why waste good fluid and let it drain down? Just add yours when the factory juice runs out.
I'm not wasting "good" fluid... I'm wasting the fluid that I don't like because it doesn't do what I want

And with my fluid, you don't have to manually apply a Rain-X coating. The wipers do it for you

It's pretty interesting to see the difference when you're driving in the rain... the parts where the wipers touch, the water beads away... but the outer edges of the windshield are like normal. So I know it works

Plus it's only $3, so I'm not that concerned about "wasting" anything...
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:51 PM   #9
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The factory only puts a small amount of washer fluid in it. The dealer has to fill it. It has a small amount of fluid so it can be tested before shipping. There is only about a gallon or two of gas in from the factory too. All the other fluids are full of course.
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:53 PM   #10
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Some dealers don't check any fluids! According to GM, the fluids are topped up to spec. This doesn't necessarily mean its topped up. When you pick it up, at least check the oil level. Most cars I PDI are low on everything. GM doesn't want to pay for "add-on" things like fluids. Yet some dealers top every thing off.
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If your going to pump it out on the ground at least do it in front of the rear tires. lite em up
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:45 PM   #12
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When we PDI cars at work, Nissan Tech, we check levels and the only thing we fill is the washer fluid and gas it up. So there is a chance you can use your stuff from the get go. Just let the dealer know.
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did you know thaqt rain x makes a product that you add to any washer fluid that will do the same thing?? as in apply the rain x. and i would guess you can add the stuff you like to the washer fluid tank with the other stuff ass you use it. but if i were you i would get some of that other stuff and use it first, than when it's gone add your other stuff. but if you don't want to do that just on hook the tank and dump it rather than pumping it all out. can't think that would be good for the pump, to run that long i mean.
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Old 04-11-2009, 06:31 PM   #14
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Speaking of fluids...

Tell them to keep the bodily fluids out of it too! LOL
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Tell them to keep the bodily fluids out of it too! LOL
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Old 04-11-2009, 11:57 PM   #16
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Just use what they send you and then fill it up with your stuff.
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Old 04-12-2009, 01:13 AM   #17
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Thanks for all of the responses guys... guess I'll just double-check with my dealer, and tell him not to worry about it if it's not topped off from the factory.

Still wondering about the warning light though... man I really loved that, and I can't believe it's not on my 6-years-newer car, and possibly not on the Camaro :(
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:19 AM   #18
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Yea, they come in with everything but gas. I guess it's hazardous to ship things that can explode (insert extreme sarcasm). I will try that fluid though, I swear by rain-x.
Actually, Gasoline is not explosive just flammable, and in reality it would be SAFER to ship cars with a full tank, the reason is is that gasoline does become explosive in a gaseous state, and when you have a nearly empty gas tank its filled with gas fumes that ARE explosive.

More than likely they don't want to ship cars with an expensive commodity like fuel, thats also easy to add, and expected by owners.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:27 AM   #19
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I love Rain-X washer fluid too. Now they have the 2-in-1 Rain-X for people who don't use it up quickly so they can get the bug wash version AND the de-icer version in one mixture.

Lately I'm too poor and I've been experimenting with mixing up various stuff including some knockoff Rain-X treatment I found at a dollar store (or maybe it was at WalMart), dish soap, water, and various other stuff. It works great. Anyway, I digress.

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did you know thaqt rain x makes a product that you add to any washer fluid that will do the same thing??
They make loads of different products that can do the job. There's an additive specifically for washer fluid which says you can add it to water to make washer fluid or you can add it to your existing washer fluid to make it better. There's the regular original Rain-X treatment which works great if you just pour it into your washer fluid instead of having to go to all the effort of applying it manually.

http://www.rainx.com/Products/Default.aspx

Oddly, their products page doesn't show the washer additive, but I know it's still in stock at WalMart.



Anyway, if I were you, I'd just add some Rain-X or Rain-X washer fluid concentrate/additive to the fluid that came with the car. If that wasn't good enough I'd disconnect the tank and drain it rather than run the stuff out with the squirter.

My VW came with really nice fluid from the factory, it made the glass REALLY clean, though it left some residue at the edges of the wipers' travel. It was a little more soapy and less volatile/solventy than the common cheap blue stuff.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:39 AM   #21
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Its is going to piss me off so bad when i get this car in. Then GM does put the Z28 Into production for not much more, cause then i will havet to buy it instead. lol
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FYI

For those of you who like to maintain a show care finish on your Camaro, be careful what you put in the windsheild washer tank. Many washer fluids, especialy winter blends contain Methanol. These fluids will take off the polish/wax, leaving streaks along the top of your car and/or down the sides. Read the label! I do not know the spec on GM's fluid, so I always siphon it out and replace.
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IMO the Camaro should not be driven when its raining
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Lame. The Camaro should be driven all the time. The Camaro should never rot in a garage like some lame weakling that can't handle a little dirt or rain.
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Since they are being produced in Osahwa all the Camaros will have GM spec cold climate washer fluid in them (or the tank will be empty). Which means it will be something good to at least -20 c or something like that. If you're not in a cold climate or want to replace it, just siphon it out. I wouldn't run the pump long enough to pump out the whole tank. Think about it. A typical "wash" spray puts out between 1-3 ounces. The tank holds what ? ( I haven't checked) 1/2 a gallon? (my Avy hold a full 4L jug). I imagine the Camaro has the low washer fluid warning. Most Gm cars with a DIC do.
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