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Old 11-18-2011, 02:24 PM   #1
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Completely new to exhausts...

I'm a complete noob when it comes to exhaust systems. I've been doing quite a bit of research, and I think I've stumbled upon the fact there are two kinds of exhausts: cat backs and axle backs. Am I right? And if so, what is the difference?

I'm looking for a mean sounding exhaust that people will hear.
I'm not looking for anything too much for performance; I'm really going for sound here.
I have a 2LT RS V6 Automatic if that helps.

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Videos/pictures/links/anything is appreciated!
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:28 PM   #2
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Also, what are the pros and cons of getting a new exhaust system?

Pros: HP gains? MPG gain?
Cons: Will it void my warranty? Any future issues I might encounter? Are they any harder to maintain than the stock exhaust?
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:35 PM   #3
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Catback: is from the catalytic converters back

Axleback: from the rear axle back

There are no HP or mpg gains from an exhaust system. No it will no void your warranty. There is no upkeep with them. You install them and then you're done with them.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:43 PM   #4
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If all I'm looking for is sound, am I better off with just new mufflers? Instead blowing all that money on an exhaust?
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:11 PM   #5
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It's a personal preference thing. Search around the forum and listen to YouTube videos. Most V6 guys go with the MRT v2 if I remember right
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If all I'm looking for is sound, am I better off with just new mufflers? Instead blowing all that money on an exhaust?
yes, if you are looking for sound, then getting the axleback is what you want.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:55 PM   #8
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All I want is a powerful sound. I don't want anything sounding too raspy and choppy; I want a quality and strong, aggressive sound. I want my presence to be known.

Why do people buy exhaust systems if you can just buy a muffler for cheaper?
Since exhaust systems don't give you HP or MPG gains.
And mufflers seem to be a lot cheaper.
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:17 PM   #9
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what do you mean by exhaust or muffler like catback or axle back?
Also do you have any other plans for modding?
If you have plans of more modding say long tube headers you may want to get an exhaust that has a resonated X pipe so you dont get the rasp.
A Axle back which is just the mufflers is great like alot of people have the MRT V2 but to get the sound you want you may not always be able to do that with just them. You may need to go father up the pipes.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:31 PM   #10
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axle-back exhausts usually run from 400 to 650 while cat-backs tend to run from 700 to 1,100+.

Yes, you can buy just some muffler but you have to consider additional things that will add to the cost like exhaust tips and the additional pipe and bending of those pipes to mate up to your factory system. Usually by the time you add up the cost of two mufflers, a set of tips, piping and labor costs to do the bending/welding your looking to spend at least 300 and probably more in the range of 350 to 450.

So yes, if you do a custom setup (for instance, mine is a custom magnaflow exhaust) you can get away with a bit cheaper, but you must do your research on which universal mufflers you choose to be sure it will sound good and install just fine.

These axle-back and cat-back "kits" include all the mufflers/tips/and piping pre-bend and ready for installation, not to mention they have been tested by that particular manufacturer to produce a "good" sound for the V6. ( I put the "good" in quotes b/c good to one person might not be good to another) So they can charge a bit of a premium for them.

Also usually cat-backs will in many cases include slightly larger piping, and also can include an additional muffler or X-pipe further upstream near the cats which will also alter the sound.

You can actually gain some HP and gas mileage with exhaust, but don't expect much from the V6 Camaro.

There is much to talk about in this area....I will say that if you haven't found the V6 exhaust sticky thread yet, definitely look in there.
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:31 PM   #11
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:34 PM   #12
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sound...axelback exhaust will do fine, no catback needed
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Old 11-18-2011, 11:19 PM   #13
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It depends a lot on the sound you want; realy loud all the time, loud just when you really get on it but quiet at cruise..............whatever. I was a total newbie too. Thank goodness for Apex Chase! He was very patient with me, explained things to me, talked to me about the sound I wanted & helped me make the right choice for me - A Borla axle back. I love it! Here is a link to high quality video clip Apex Paul & Chase made of my set-up but listen with headphones or you won't be able to tell much about it. It sounds much better when you really get on it but they wanted more like daily driving sound:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148671
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Talk to Chase. He got me a really good deal too. Good luck with your decision.
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Old 11-19-2011, 12:56 AM   #14
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Look if you want loud and a good quality sound might I point you in the direction of what is on Rene's silver Camaro in the above video-ARK N-II full catback exhaust. That thing sounds amazing and their Black Friday sale puts it at around 850 shipped. That's a heckuva deal. It is 100% 304 mirror polished stainless steel.

KMPrenger makes some very good points about peicing together your own setup. If you know what you're doing then yeah you can probably save yourself some cash but if you're new to all this then just save yourself some time and hassel and just buy it right the first time. Corsa and SOLO make nice easy-to-live-with catbacks as well.
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