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Old 11-23-2011, 07:46 PM   #1
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Exclamation SS Bumper help & headlight question...

I'll be the first to admit that my Camaro was an impulse buy and I didn't think of getting the RS package. Now that i know what im missing out on, I'd like to change things up. Im looking into swapping my Lt bumper out for an SS bumper because im tired of the "dull" look. My question is..will the lower grill insert from the Lt bumper fit the SS lower grill space?? It might sound dumb to you Camaro experts, but i'm new to the game.. second question: I'm going to be purchasing Eagle eyes and im also ordering HID's and relay. Anyone know the bulb size for the eagle eye assembly???..please help. Thanks guy and gals!
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:01 PM   #2
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Don't feel bad i was just after 8 and six speed. I don't c how lower will work. i know SS was three bars and LT is two bars.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:27 PM   #3
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thanks bub.. looks like im going to be on the hunt for a lower insert.. sheeshh
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:43 PM   #4
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Yeah, lower grill is different. Sure you could contact gmparts to get it.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:01 PM   #5
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A & V...That front bumper and Grille are sick...Ive been doing price checks on the heritage...almost 100% ready to buy one.
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:01 PM   #6
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Heritage is my favorite grille that's out there. You'll love it if you get it. Then you'll be thinking of painting it or not.

Always knew I wanted the grille and then decided to change my whole front at the same time.
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:55 AM   #7
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In my case, I specifically wanted the v6 for the better gas mileage (& was satisfied with the hp because it has more than my 01 Firebird v6 did, or even a T/A from that year), and chose the RS because I didn't want just a base model car. But I've just never been all that crazy about the v6 front fascia.

It's the same as the SS from the top grille up... but from that point down it just lacks the low, wide, aggressive look I love about the SS.

I'm thinking about getting the Razzi front & side ground effects kit, as the Razzi is a mean looking front, and will give me that lower, wider look the SS has.

But I'm wondering if I should (instead of paying for 3 pieces of gfx, having them painted, then installed by a local shop)... just buy an SS front fascia and be done with it.

I'm not planning on being a poser and throw a red SS logo on it... (going to be keeping my RS badge), I just want that tougher look to the front if that makes sense?

So my question is does anyone know if an SS front fascia is compatible with a v6 body? I mean I know everything will line up exterior wise... but will the attach points be the same? Will all the male & female points line up so it can be attached?

And what would you all recommend, the gfx... or just the front fascia changeout. What's the ballpark price difference I'm looking at?

Any info will be helpfull. Thanks in advance guys... Kevin
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:48 AM   #8
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I would just do the front bumper swap. Easier, cheaper, and cleaner look.

It will attach. The only minor difference in attachment points is that of the wheel well covers. If you take it to a shop it'll be easy for them to work with it.

Mine was put on and they used all the same points. But if you look in the wheel well and look at the bumper the last clip is not in place because the sizes were just a tad bit off. Hardly noticeable, but I notice small details. (like tiny chips I have)

But 99.9% is a direct swap and looks good. Just remember you'll need a new lower grill, not sure on upper (i went heritage), and the black piece that goes in the slot.

Hope that helps
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:46 PM   #9
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I would just do the front bumper swap. Easier, cheaper, and cleaner look.

It will attach. The only minor difference in attachment points is that of the wheel well covers. If you take it to a shop it'll be easy for them to work with it.

Mine was put on and they used all the same points. But if you look in the wheel well and look at the bumper the last clip is not in place because the sizes were just a tad bit off. Hardly noticeable, but I notice small details. (like tiny chips I have)

But 99.9% is a direct swap and looks good. Just remember you'll need a new lower grill, not sure on upper (i went heritage), and the black piece that goes in the slot.

Hope that helps
Good info about the wheel wells. Will the SS wells attach to the V6?
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:00 PM   #10
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No idea. I didn't see the point. The v6 wells work excellent
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:49 PM   #11
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OP....before you just pull the trigger on Eagle Eyes, research your options. Do a search on HID retrofit. It's a little cheaper and better products IMO. You can also contact AAC who does a lot of lighting and talk with them about a retrofit vs EE.

I'm not telling you to not buy the EE....just research so you know all of your options before pulling the trigger.
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:07 AM   #12
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Thanks for the help so far guys... it's helping.
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:19 AM   #13
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& thanks Aequitas, very helpfull... and I notice tiny details like that too lol! I have two small nicks in my fascia right now from thrown gravel or something that are driving me nuts!

Do you have any pics of your swap by chance!? Just wondering how that wheel well thing looks when its done...
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:01 AM   #14
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I can go take a photo within the next few hours. I have a break and have to run some errands anyways. I'll post it here. It's not as big as you'd expect from my description
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:35 AM   #15
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Here it is.

This is really close. When you step back you see the bottom most part but no one has ever noticed it when I show them my car.

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Old 12-02-2011, 10:36 AM   #16
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Thanks Aequitas, thats a good pic.

Yeah... it doesn't look that big of a deal. Does it flap tho or distort in any way when at speed that you know of? I think I can fashion some sort of plastic or even metal type brace and just bolt that last segment on when/if I get mine!?

So is that your new front in the pic that lists all the add-ons that's in all your posts? If so... looks sweet!! Couldn't find any on your page to check out, just saw your original front.

Alright man, thanks again for the help... Kevin
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:13 PM   #17
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UPDATE:

Ok, so I think I'm about 90% FOR the SS front vs a gfx kit... now I'm just wondering if yall know where I can order the OEM parts?

I would prefer to order them for myself online, have them shipped to me at home, and take them in the back of my truck to the body shop for professional painting etc. Then I just wanna take it all back home and install it all myself in my garage.

Is this at all possible, or do I have to go through a local Chevy dealer and have them stick it to me??

If there's an actual GM OEM parts website, I'd appreciate any info on where it is!?

Thanks again guys for all the help... sorry to be such a bug lol... Kevin
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:08 PM   #18
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Thanks Aequitas, thats a good pic.

Yeah... it doesn't look that big of a deal. Does it flap tho or distort in any way when at speed that you know of? I think I can fashion some sort of plastic or even metal type brace and just bolt that last segment on when/if I get mine!?

So is that your new front in the pic that lists all the add-ons that's in all your posts? If so... looks sweet!! Couldn't find any on your page to check out, just saw your original front.

Alright man, thanks again for the help... Kevin
Nope, no flapping whatso ever. I push my baby hard, always foot to the floor since the day I got her. So I would know if it flapped at all.

Yeah that's my car as it sits now. I had a build thread on here but no one commented on it since she's a six. I have a more up to date on another camaro forum oriented on the six that I can't post the link too.

As for the parts. I think you can get the bumper for around $400 from one of the gmparts sponsors on this forum. And I don't see why you couldn't get it all painted and then install yourself.

Just saw you were in Coppers Cove, I have family down there!
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:59 PM   #19
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Wow I am an idiot. You know that well isn't off. That last hole is for the black piece people bump with curbs. My SS bumper didn't come with it so I left it off.

I just saw a pic of it so that's my bad... Sending you a pm too
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:11 PM   #20
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The bulb size for the Eagle Eyes is H9
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