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Old 04-13-2009, 06:08 PM   #1
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Good Idea? Bad Idea?

Hey everyone.... With hyltons latest 8,000 post that made most of us think the vins were in the 8000s to find out that he meant members It got me thinking a bit. Now granted I am sitting here desperately waiting for someone to come into my store this may just be a thinking out loud idea.

I sit here realizing more everyday that my dream of owning a camaro is getting more and more of just that. A dream. Then I think, I wonder how many other people on here have had their dream of owning a camaro crushed because of the economy. Either due to layoffs,plant closings or in my case signifigantly (sp?) reduced sales.

I thought it would be a good idea if CAMARO5 would do its own raffle or something similar. I don't have any idea on how this would work or if they would want to do it. But with 8,000 members If everyone did this at 5 bucks a pop that would be 40,000.

Now I know that everyone wouldn't do it or could do it but this is just me thinking out loud. Good Idea or Bad?
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:44 PM   #2
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good idea as long as i win
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:50 PM   #3
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please post your thoughts on this. I see a few have said no. why do you say no? Not upset you did just would like to see what you think would be bad about it?
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:52 PM   #4
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Don't you need a license of some kind?
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:54 PM   #5
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License, which?
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:57 PM   #6
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I think maybe some people may have mis understood... Im not asking for you to do it for me however it would be great.... I just would like someone out there that has had some misfortune to have some good luck. Maybe thats why the no votes?
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:01 PM   #7
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I say yes.. Never hurts to get another camaro on the road! Any way we can do it.. I am all for it.. 5 bucks.. I'll take 4 tickets.. LOL
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:01 PM   #8
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The drawing would have to be some kind of live thing or something, so that everyone can see that it really would be "random"...
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:07 PM   #9
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I was thinking maybe tran or one of the mods could do it... they all seem to be all straight up guys
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I haven't voted yet, but it depends on how thoroughly it is conducted. There are a lot of logistics that would need to ge worked out.

Would it be for USA only, if not is the car legal in the other countries?

Who purchases the car and hangs on to it.?

Is the car purchased, or is the money just raffled off?

If the Car is purchased, to who's specs?

How does the car get delivered, and who is responsible for the expenses for shipping it?

What taxes are needed to be paid, and who has to pay them?

What type of liability/risk does Camaro5 put themselves at by hosting it? What happens if someone wrecks the car and dies, the family then sues Camaro5......

Just a few things I could think of off the top of my head.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:15 PM   #11
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woa.... lol Like I said I was just thinking out loud. I dont see how you could hold anyone responsible for some stupid thing you did yourself (however I am currently dealing with a situation similar but without the death)
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:19 PM   #12
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There is no way you will get all 8000 members to even realize that this is going on. 2400 of our members have never posted. Not once!!! Let alone do a raffle for a camaro. If you lose those tickets then you have lost 12000 dollars... And I just about bet that out of the other 5 thousand members, only half of them will ever know that this raffle is going down. Leaving you at a LS model camaro if your lucky... Don't get me wrong. I love your Idea, but it is so hard to get people on this forum to join something...

Look at it this way. I run a club in this forum which is called the "camaro owners club"(see signature below vvv). Seriously, I only have a 115 or so members. Paaaaaaleeeeeeeeeeeeseeeeeeeeeeeee. I know that half of this forum has owned a camaro before. They just don't take the time. Heck we had a "which is better mustang or camaro thread" and I think we only got a couple hundred votes.

Getting people to participate is your MAIN PROBLEM!
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:31 PM   #13
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I love your I dea as well, but just also know how hard it is to get people to participate. I ran a Rally for motorcycles, and did a few group discounts for aftermarket parts for motorcycles.

People aren't very trusting, and as you found out, people are very sue happy. They do it, just to get rich quick, or so thy think...
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:32 PM   #14
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The purpose I think was to have someone who lost their job, still be able to win a Camaro. You can't exclude anyone, so what if someone who has a Camaro, or is getting a Camaro wins this new Camaro?
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:34 PM   #15
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Too complicated

Too much of a responsibility i say to many factors involved to take into serious consideration, what if you dont actually gather the full amount for an SS which mostly what everyone would really like, too much of a burden......: barf::(
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:36 PM   #16
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There is no way you will get all 8000 members to even realize that this is going on. 2400 of our members have never posted. Not once!!! Let alone do a raffle for a camaro. If you lose those tickets then you have lost 12000 dollars... And I just about bet that out of the other 5 thousand members, only half of them will ever know that this raffle is going down. Leaving you at a LS model camaro if your lucky... Don't get me wrong. I love your Idea, but it is so hard to get people on this forum to join something...

Look at it this way. I run a club in this forum which is called the "camaro owners club"(see signature below vvv). Seriously, I only have a 115 or so members. Paaaaaaleeeeeeeeeeeeseeeeeeeeeeeee. I know that half of this forum has owned a camaro before. They just don't take the time. Heck we had a "which is better mustang or camaro thread" and I think we only got a couple hundred votes.

Getting people to participate is your MAIN PROBLEM!
I just joined your club by the way....


Yea I know everyone isn't going to participate. Just throwin some figures out there. But if it were like the raffle. say set a price per ticket (not for profit) and set a set amount of tickets to be sold. Figure out what it would be for a 2SS and when all the tickets have been sold pick the winner and let them pick what they want. And if its less than what money has been taken in then donate that to a charity or something.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:40 PM   #18
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moved.......oh well....
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:41 PM   #19
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I THINK its illegal, but I'm not sure. I think its ok when its a semi-private raffle. For example, limited only to members of Camaro5.com.

$5.00 is cheap enough. I'd buy a ticket...

The real problem though is the risk that the owner would take. He would have to buy the car first, maybe insure it too. Then wait until enough raffle tickets were sold.

Figure that at least HALF of the people would not believe its legit. The other HALF would believe it but would not be interested. Half of those people would only buy after beind sold (or spammed). That leaves about 12.5 % of people who MIGHT buy it right away, reducing the risk for the owner.

But STILL! I'd go for it.

Would Paypal allow it?
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:42 PM   #20
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Whoever the organizer is will have to file form number ???? with the IRS, reporting the winner so they can make sure the winner reports the value of the car as income.
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I'd like to have my preorder camaro first before seeing someone win one as a prize to be showboated around this site. So as long as its after say October, yes....
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Yea I know everyone isn't going to participate. Just throwin some figures out there. But if it were like the raffle. say set a price per ticket (not for profit) and set a set amount of tickets to be sold. Figure out what it would be for a 2SS and when all the tickets have been sold pick the winner and let them pick what they want. And if its less than what money has been taken in then donate that to a charity or something.
This could work, after all it's very similar to what St Joseph School is doing with their Camaro and Corvette Raffles. Why not ask them to help?

Open to US players only. Prize worth $42,000; limited to 700 tickets @ 60USD per Ticket. Takes care of Tax, Title, and possible insurance costs?
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That leaves about 12.5 % of people who MIGHT buy it right away, reducing the risk for the owner.
I was thinking more like 14.42%
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:56 PM   #24
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I'm afraid although it's a noble idea that I voted for and would gladly participate in, it's just too complicated to work out. I hope I'm wrong and someone steps in with all the answers. Personally, I'd prefer it be only for those that have cancelled because of loss of job because of the current poor economic conditions.
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