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Old 04-14-2009, 12:28 PM   #1
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Are 2010 Mustangs already on lots?

Note: I understand the reason for the Camaro's delay and I'm not, personally, complaining about it. This is simply my observation.

So I was driving back to my house Sunday and saw a burgundy Mustang in front of one of my neighbors' house. I hadn't seen it there before and normally I wouldn't have paid any attention, but something seemed... off... about it. So as I made the turn past the house, I rubbernecked a bit and saw that it was, indeed the new model Mustang.

So are these already on lots or does he have something like a CTF? If they're already on lots, I'm sad to say that I'm disappointed the GM couldn't get the Camaros on the street before, or even at the same time as, the new competition.

Does anyone know?

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but the overall theme seems to me to be related to the Camaro, and it's general discussion.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:29 PM   #2
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Yes, they are on lots now. Sucks for the Camaro...
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No it's a non issue. The Camaro production line is open that's all that counts. They are working on inspection, fixing and delivery.

If someone wanta a stang then by all means go buy it and join a Ford forum.

Good things come to those that wait.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:32 PM   #4
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yeah i feel your frustration seems like gm doesn't want to put more shifts and make more money but thats my .02
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:37 PM   #5
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No, it isn't like they want to make sure this is a perfect as possible before anyone gets their hands on it. How much R&D work do you think Ford did on the new Mustang? Camaro's are on the way people, just chill.

In fact, they would probably be on dealer lots as we speak if GM didn't have the graciousness to allow you impatient people a pre-order.
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What is going on with the Camaros. Are there problems or is GM holding for the "May Release"? GM really needs to get this car out there.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:41 PM   #7
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No it's a non issue. The Camaro production line is open that's all that counts. They are working on inspection, fixing and delivery.

If someone wanta a stang then by all means go buy it and join a Ford forum.

Good things come to those that wait.
I understand that, and am happy that my car will be as well done as it can be... but that doesn't keep it from being unfortunate and frustrating, in my opinion.

How many of us are on this forum? And how many are actually buying a Camaro?

It's a non-issue for me, but I guarantee you it's not completely a non-issue for all prospective buyers.

The fact of the matter is that GM's future clients are not all on this forum. The sucky part is that, if someone's in the market for something like a Mustang, finds a Mustang on a lot, and can't compare it to a Camaro because he or she can't see it in the flesh, that may be the single factor that makes him or her buy the Mustang.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:41 PM   #8
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That's fine, all these people who buy new Mustangs are going to have some serious buyers remorse when the see the Camaro on the streets.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:43 PM   #9
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That's fine, all these people who buy new Mustangs are going to have some serious buyers remorse when the see the Camaro on the streets.
And that's fine, too.
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I can see your points but it's not like the 'Stang is pretty much a new car, unlike Camaro. Sure, a lot of it comes from the G8, but the 'Stang is an update to an existing chassis, is it not? I'm sure there are going to be buyers who don't care about loyalty and such, and it will be a shame to loose those buyers, but it is what it is. Allowing yourself to get worked up (and possibly working up more people here) isn't going to do a whole lot in terms of getting your car sooner. I can share your frustration, but Camaro's almost here
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I can see your points but it's not like the 'Stang is pretty much a new car, unlike Camaro. Sure, a lot of it comes from the G8, but the 'Stang is an update to an existing chassis, is it not? I'm sure there are going to be buyers who don't care about loyalty and such, and it will be a shame to loose those buyers, but it is what it is. Allowing yourself to get worked up (and possibly working up more people here) isn't going to do a whole lot in terms of getting your car sooner. I can share your frustration, but Camaro's almost here
Yeah. I'm not trying to get anyone worked up. It was mainly a question since I don't really have the opportunity/desire to go by a Ford dealership and find out myself.

And I'm not frustrated by me not having a Camaro. Moreso, I'm frustrated that, if I were to tell my co-worker about the Mustang because she's interested, she'd probably fire back some snide remark about GM being late to the game again.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:50 PM   #13
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Sorry, still hideous in my eyes... Though I will give them that they made the front of the front quarter panel/side view of the headlights look cooler than it did for the previous model. But that's the only improvement, in my opinion... See below for what I mean.
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Yeah. I'm not trying to get anyone worked up. It was mainly a question since I don't really have the opportunity/desire to go by a Ford dealership and find out myself.

And I'm not frustrated by me not having a Camaro. Moreso, I'm frustrated that, if I were to tell my co-worker about the Mustang because she's interested, she'd probably fire back some snide remark about GM being late to the game again.
I hear ya' I'd love to just brag on everything I love about Camaro, but, like you said - there's not one to show anyone yet. I think these cars are going to be their best advertisement. Someone who's going or likely to make a negative comment about GM has probably already made their mind up about Camaro anyways, LOL. What a shame...

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It looks like the Camaro is in the lead right now in that poll. The funny thing is hardly anyone is giving any notice to the Challenger...
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It looks like the Camaro is in the lead right now in that poll. The funny thing is hardly anyone is giving any notice to the Challenger...
That paired with the fact that the Challenger outsold the Mustang recently.
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I don't particularly care that the 2010 Mustangs are starting to hit the dealer lots. They'll just sit there alongside the unsold 2008 & 2009 models. How likely is it that a new, non-presold, Camaro is going to be sitting on a dealer's lot for more than a day?

While we were all griping about the shark fin antenna on the Camaro, at least we didn't get stuck with these like the Mustang...
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I don't particularly care that the 2010 Mustangs are starting to hit the dealer lots. They'll just sit there alongside the unsold 2008 & 2009 models. How likely is it that a new, non-presold, Camaro is going to be sitting on a dealer's lot for more than a day?

While we were all griping about the shark fin antenna on the Camaro, at least we didn't get stuck with these like the Mustang...

That is a god awful color of Blue. I preferred the flat rear ends, the new one sticks out too much.
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Note: I understand the reason for the Camaro's delay and I'm not, personally, complaining about it. This is simply my observation.

So I was driving back to my house Sunday and saw a burgundy Mustang in front of one of my neighbors' house. I hadn't seen it there before and normally I wouldn't have paid any attention, but something seemed... off... about it. So as I made the turn past the house, I rubbernecked a bit and saw that it was, indeed the new model Mustang.

So are these already on lots or does he have something like a CTF? If they're already on lots, I'm sad to say that I'm disappointed the GM couldn't get the Camaros on the street before, or even at the same time as, the new competition.

Does anyone know?

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but the overall theme seems to me to be related to the Camaro, and it's general discussion.
yeah, i think we have one over here at WINNER FORD in cherry hill, NJ.
but...
seriously........

WHO CARES!
no one has made a peep nor a big stink about yet another MUSTANG.

EVERYONE is rabid about camaro.... so just like a controversial band taking too long to put out a record............ be patient. once camaro HITS its gonna hit hard and be well worth your wait.

and as the press and critics all state, point out, and agree (for once) - THIS ONE'S WORTH THE WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You know what this means don't ya? It means the 2010 'stang buyers will regret their purchases just that much more when they get a load of our exhaust
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Keep in mind, it was never a race. To come out with an all new car vs. a major refresh are two different things. The only goal GM has is to build a better, higher quality car that satisfies the customer to a much higher degree. Getting it to the market first was never an imperative.

In this case any time line for the Camaro was created by GM, not Ford.

Being on the lot first doesn't make a better car.
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That gold is HIDEOUS!!!
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I don't particularly care that the 2010 Mustangs are starting to hit the dealer lots. They'll just sit there alongside the unsold 2008 & 2009 models. How likely is it that a new, non-presold, Camaro is going to be sitting on a dealer's lot for more than a day?

While we were all griping about the shark fin antenna on the Camaro, at least we didn't get stuck with these like the Mustang...

What is that small blister on the back deck for?
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That is a god awful color of Blue. I preferred the flat rear ends, the new one sticks out too much.
sure its a nice car and all,
really, it is...

but
honestly guys -
is anyone else just not "feeling it" this time around with the Stang?

hell, the challenger makes me giddy as hell.
this new stang is...

pretty,... but.... lacks in the excitement. maybe i need to see it in person again. (saw one at the philly auto show).

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The 09 model was pretty sweet, I'll give Ford a slap on the back for its design, kudos. The 10 Mustang model looks like a step in the wrong direction for me.
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