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Old 12-02-2011, 05:00 PM   #1
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Turbo V6 to Stock V8 Video Comparisons

Hey all, since the turbo v6 camaro's have traction issues, quarter mile times may not be as representative of the turbo v6 power. I've decided to post links of videos of high speed runs (60-130mph) comparing a stock v6 and ss l99 and ls3 to a 60-130 run I made in my car recently on private roads:

60-130 mph Comparisons:

My turbo v6 13-16 seconds
Source: http://youtu.be/ogRJrF5gcek (in 50's stayed in 3rd gear until 112, downshifting to second at the beginning of my run couldve boosted my acceleration)

Stock SS 19-21 seconds
Source: http://youtu.be/nILUXJ0HSv8 , http://youtu.be/0Hvy9fSx6lY (85-130, and the v6 is still faster from 60-130)

575 hp supercharged SS: 10-12 seconds
Source: http://youtu.be/MYhVjk90uHQ

Stock v6 24-28 seconds
Source: http://youtu.be/ZJf-uHPbO14 , http://youtu.be/g6gK8zT4Prw
(Aparrently some v6 owners questioned my gains so I posted these references as well)

Conclusion: My setup is probably the most inefficient of all the v6 FI builds on this site but still make tons of realized power. Therefore the other kits are are well worth the money and this proves that the power of turbo v6's is transferred to the street and will outrun an SS!
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:37 PM   #2
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Nice!! I was wondering about this and was wanting to see some numbers like you've dug up for us. Thanks!!
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:51 PM   #3
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HAHAHAHA AWESOME MAN! Love the for you haters! Awesome and HOLY SHIT!
After just tyoing how I was scared out of my FI craze, you have now pulled me back right in!
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:57 PM   #4
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hey PT, did you ever dyno it? Cant remember]
Imagine this puppy with meth and more boost?!
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:16 PM   #5
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Lol thanks a lot TJ and BC, why where going to jump off the FI bandwagon! Lots going on right now with all these builds. I never got my car dynoed, but I will eventually when I try to sell my car, but for now I'm satisfied with "on the street" results and butt dyno! I went to the track a week ago for 1/4 but I can't hook, spun through 1st and 2nd, let off gas give gas still spin lol need drags bad
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:18 PM   #6
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Get bigger tires. Traction problems solved. Han**** tire r275 is what I run.
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:40 PM   #7
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Get bigger tires. Traction problems solved. Han**** tire r275 is what I run.
Have you gone down the track with your current setup? I need some new tires and rims, I'm running the stock 18" heritage rims with stock bf goodrich. My summer 20" low profiles was even worse at the track lol!
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I not a big fan of the track but last time I did go they griped quite well. My fronts are stock 18 bf goodrich the rears are 20 han****s ventus st 275/40r20 106w
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Thats a damn good run...impressive!

I found a 25 - 85 SS video thats a bit better quality....it runs good too!

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Lol thanks a lot TJ and BC, why where going to jump off the FI bandwagon! Lots going on right now with all these builds. I never got my car dynoed, but I will eventually when I try to sell my car, but for now I'm satisfied with "on the street" results and butt dyno! I went to the track a week ago for 1/4 but I can't hook, spun through 1st and 2nd, let off gas give gas still spin lol need drags bad
Lol too many LLTs popping and my car has already had a thousand problems
And sell? WHY?! :(
And I would definitly agree about your street performance, that v6 is a beast and definitly a sleeper.
Drag radials would definitly help, probably get some solid numbers at the track with your setup!
And honestly, my car will rarely ever see a track, but highway fun is what im looking for and FI looks like the best option for that
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:59 AM   #11
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Wow, that odometer is going up in a hurry!!

I'm 2 years away from doing serious work to my car, but I'm happy to see wht you "pioneers" are achieving!

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Old 12-03-2011, 09:03 AM   #12
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Hey all, since the turbo v6 camaro's have traction issues, quarter mile times may not be as representative of the turbo v6 power. I've decided to post links of videos of high speed runs (60-130mph) comparing a stock v6 and ss l99 and ls3 to a 60-130 run I made in my car recently on private roads:

60-130 mph Comparisons:

My turbo v6 13-16 seconds
Source: http://youtu.be/ogRJrF5gcek (in 50's stayed in 3rd gear until 112, downshifting to second at the beginning of my run couldve boosted my acceleration)

Stock SS 19-21 seconds
Source: http://youtu.be/nILUXJ0HSv8 , http://youtu.be/0Hvy9fSx6lY (85-130, and the v6 is still faster from 60-130)

Stock v6 28-30 seconds
Source: http://youtu.be/ZJf-uHPbO14 , http://youtu.be/g6gK8zT4Prw
(Aparrently some v6 owners questioned my gains so I posted these references as well)

Conclusion: My setup is probably the most inefficient of all the v6 FI builds on this site but still make tons of realized power. Therefore the other kits are are well worth the money and this proves that the power of turbo v6's is transferred to the street and will outrun an SS!

if you can't get traction you can't win, and bragging rights come from the tracks since my real drivers don't race on the streets
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if you can't get traction you can't win, and bragging rights come from the tracks since my real drivers don't race on the streets
lol. Just so you know some people like myself are content with our v6's and what we are looking for is extra hp when we want to have fun. I don't understand why every time a boosted v6 post new info the v8 guys gotta be jerks. We can have fun too, we are all part of the family.
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Thanks for the videos pt killa. Seems like u got a sleeper in your hands. But you sir are in need of better gripping tires. The ls tires are not gonna work with you lol.
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What gear was they both ran in?

It feels kind of good when you can say "poor little v8" haha lol. Good vids PT!
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What gear was they both ran in?

It feels kind of good when you can say "poor little v8" haha lol. Good vids PT!
Don't say that! they might come here and start lol
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if you can't get traction you can't win, and bragging rights come from the tracks since my real drivers don't race on the streets
Very true, racing on public roads is very dangerous. At least i now know objectively through the video comparisons that i have the power needed for the track, which can be applied with new tires.
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Old 12-03-2011, 11:15 AM   #18
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What gear was they both ran in?

It feels kind of good when you can say "poor little v8" haha lol. Good vids PT!
bmore you change your sig and avatar every week lol, and new parts too, with all that you got to be over 300whp NA. I would like to check out your ride one day since your so close but im a skins fan so we might not get along lol jk

Im not sure of the gears. i shifted once from 3 to 4. 60-130mph is a popular rolling start metric, search online there are lots of cars to compare to.
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What's the comparison to a bolt on SS or to a H/C/I SS?

(just curious, not trying to start nothing).
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That is pretty quick...and only 6 PSI?

Imagine what we will do with 12-15 PSI? =0
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bmore you change your sig and avatar every week lol, and new parts too, with all that you got to be over 300whp NA. I would like to check out your ride one day since your so close but im a skins fan so we might not get along lol jk

Im not sure of the gears. i shifted once from 3 to 4. 60-130mph is a popular rolling start metric, search online there are lots of cars to compare to.
haha LOL.. Yhea, I'm trying to better my photoshop skills on my free time so my work has to get put up somewhere although it's nothing compared to what some of these other guys have put up LOL.

The last time I was at the track I put down 13.5@104 with 60' of 2.18 with I think a DA of 1200, but my dyno said I only made 284rwhp and 244rwtq, but that's when I was on e85. that should definitely tell you how low the dyno that we use which is a dynojet 248x read lol. I think it's one of the biggest dynojet that dynojet used to sell that read 2000hp with 4800lb rollers. I guess when you have the fastest world record IS300 that does 7's and 8's you have to go big everything lol.

My last dyno with everything listed on my sig I put down 274hp and 259tq. and this was with turbulence going into the head and my KR going off into the 11's pass 4k rpm. Stock cars do about 225-235 on this exact dyno. One day after I get my project completed I would like to get on one of those 224lx or the newer and smaller dynojet that read somewhat closer to what it's supposed to, but for now it does what is supposed to do just fine.

Oh.. you a skins fan huh....hahah loooolz!! at least you guys are not as bad as the steelers, haha I'm sure we will all cross path one of these days.
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:12 PM   #22
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What's the comparison to a bolt on SS or to a H/C/I SS?

(just curious, not trying to start nothing).
I'll surf youtube for one but I'm pretty sure a v8 with headers and a cam will beat a turbo v6 or will be close at the levels we are running. Cj's v6 at 420 whp and 400tq might give an H/C/I v8 a run for the money though.

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That is pretty quick...and only 6 PSI?

Imagine what we will do with 12-15 PSI? =0
Thanks dude, it holds 4psi and spikes to 6.5psi at shifts.

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haha LOL.. Yhea, I'm trying to better my photoshop skills on my free time so my work has to get put up somewhere although it's nothing compared to what some of these other guys have put up LOL.

The last time I was at the track I put down 13.5@104 with 60' of 2.18 with I think a DA of 1200, but my dyno said I only made 284rwhp and 244rwtq, but that's when I was on e85. that should definitely tell you how low the dyno that we use which is a dynojet 248x read lol. I think it's one of the biggest dynojet that dynojet used to sell that read 2000hp with 4800lb rollers. I guess when you have the fastest world record IS300 that does 7's and 8's you have to go big everything lol.

My last dyno with everything listed on my sig I put down 274hp and 259tq. and this was with turbulence going into the head and my KR going off into the 11's pass 4k rpm. Stock cars do about 225-235 on this exact dyno. One day after I get my project completed I would like to get on one of those 224lx or the newer and smaller dynojet that read somewhat closer to what it's supposed to, but for now it does what is supposed to do just fine.

Oh.. you a skins fan huh....hahah loooolz!! at least you guys are not as bad as the steelers, haha I'm sure we will all cross path one of these days.
Thats an awesome time, that has to be the record for the v6 on street tires. You'll beat me on the track any day lol! The 248x dyno is what i used to dyno my car when it was NA and the numbers were lower than it should be too.
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What's the comparison to a bolt on SS or to a H/C/I SS?

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575 hp supercharged SS: 10-12 seconds
Source: http://youtu.be/MYhVjk90uHQ
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575 hp supercharged SS: 10-12 seconds
Source: http://youtu.be/MYhVjk90uHQ
wow, the turbo 6 sives it a good run considering I could so a similar system on my LS for 26,000, and an SS like that would likely run around 10 grand more (and thats a LOW estimate)
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Just wait until the turbo guys get the fuel issue sorted out lol The thing is going to be nassssty!
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