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Old 09-12-2008, 11:25 PM   #1
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Camaro's Cd (Coefficient of Drag)

Here's a dedicated thread to talk about it. I'm curious to see what you guys think of it.

Camaro V6: .36
Camaro SS: .35

And a few cars to compare it to.

Mustang GT500: .38

Corvette Z06: .34

4thgen Camaro: .33

EDIT: and a poll for fun
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Old 09-12-2008, 11:32 PM   #2
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Hey Dragoneye what's the Camaros coefficient of drag? I imagine it won't be much worse than the Mustang. As an aside i think the C5 Z06 probably had a lower coefficient of drag than the C6 as the C5 has smaller vents in the front.
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Old 09-12-2008, 11:43 PM   #3
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Never mind I found it on Edmunds http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=129586

.35 for the SS
.36 for the LS/LT

That's not really all that bad especially when you see that the mustang has a coefficient of .38 (as long as it beats the mustang). That is actually better than I had assumed.

Challenger I think this wrong but the only place i could find had the coefficient of drag at .88
here's my source http://www.tuned-cars.net/news.php?readmore=39 I don't think it can possibly be that bad can it?

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Old 09-13-2008, 12:31 AM   #4
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.34 for a C6 ZO6 and .35 for the SS Guess I could not complain about much… The ZO6 is a 200 MPH ride…
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Old 09-13-2008, 12:33 AM   #5
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Can someone tell me what the .35 means?
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It's the coefficient of drag, it lets you calculate how much force is required to push the car through the air.
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Old 09-13-2008, 12:48 AM   #7
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.34 for a C6 ZO6 and .35 for the SS Guess I could not complain about much… The ZO6 is a 200 MPH ride…
Other than the front facia the cars overall design is very sleek. Doesn't mean I wasn't pleasantly suprised. Also the under carriage can play a huge roll in that department as well, if the air flows well under the car it will score a lower number.
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Old 09-13-2008, 12:58 AM   #8
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It's the coefficient of drag, it lets you calculate how much force is required to push the car through the air.
Thanks James! And thanks for not flaming people!
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thats amazingly low.
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Old 09-13-2008, 01:03 AM   #10
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:03 AM   #11
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Awesome, I wouldn't think the Camaro would even be close to a Z06.
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edit for not considering the air dam hurts CoD


and wow F1 cars can be over 1.1 cod's
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Old 09-13-2008, 05:20 AM   #13
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Thumbs up Nice

That is low, man I did not thank that we would be able
to beat the mighty Z06
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Old 09-13-2008, 05:38 AM   #14
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That's much better than I expected it would be. But I wouldn't even be too concerned with it being higher. While aerodynamics are important, if the design looks great, I don't mind a few more hundredths being added to the coefficient.
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Old 09-13-2008, 07:00 AM   #15
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IMO the SS bumper is a sacrifice of design for improved aerodynamcs. To me its a pretty good comprimise. Anyone know what the Challengers Cd is? I'd expect it to be a whole number
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Is the SS lower than the LS/LT?! Why is it lower otherwise. Maybe the grille openings are bigger?...

To the question: H3LL NO I wouldn't change it, especially now, knowing it's only a little less aero' than a 4th. Gen. How in the world did they pull that off?!!!

From http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

Frontal area 25.3 sq ft (2.35 m2)
cD (drag coefficient) 0.350 (17-18 inch wheels)
0.355 (20 inch wheels)
0.353 (SRT8)
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34 no to 1 yes!
I love being the underdog lol
Would you abandon the 5thgen design for improved aerodynamics?
If it were a better looking design, yes I would. Unless I misunderstand the question, if in a few years the designers decide to freshen the car up and come up with something more aerodynamic AND better looking, sure I'd abandon it.
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and wow F1 cars can be over 1.1 cod's
I think you might be confusing downforce with drag coefficient. I've heard claims there are cars creating enough downforce they could be driven upside down.
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34 no to 1 yes!
I love being the underdog lol
Would you abandon the 5thgen design for improved aerodynamics?
If it were a better looking design, yes I would. Unless I misunderstand the question, if in a few years the designers decide to freshen the car up and come up with something more aerodynamic AND better looking, sure I'd abandon it.


I think you might be confusing downforce with drag coefficient. I've heard claims there are cars creating enough downforce they could be driven upside down.
Blashpemy!!! j/k You have a good point. I don't have the imagination to make this car much better though, personally
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more downforce = moving more air over the top of the car with means diverting it from its nantul path. which makes the CoD larger. if you look the normal corvette is something like .28

im not complaining i still think its better then i expected
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:44 AM   #20
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It's certainly not amazingly low. I'm trying to remember why the Z06 is .34. The regular Vette is .28
The 1982 Camaro was .36, so it's certainly no leap forward. I'm sure there are a lot of cars lower than that.
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more downforce = moving more air over the top of the car with means diverting it from its nantul path. which makes the CoD larger. if you look the normal corvette is something like .28

im not complaining i still think its better then i expected
Google shows you're correct... .7 to 1.2 in F1. I'm shocked!
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The Z06 is .34 due to its hood scoops and it is a wide body kit. The fenders are flared much more then the standard C6 causing a little more drag.
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the CoD seems to be low enough. If it were above a .45 or something I might reconsider. Aero drag is related to the product of CoD x Frontal Area. So the Camaro will still have more drag than the Corvette and a be a bit better than the Challenger. More aerodynamic styling would have a bit of an impact on highway fuel economy and also top speed. But when I calculated the theoretical top speed I found that it is likely going to be gear limited (in 5th like the Corvette) to about the same speed as its aero limit. So making it more aerodynamic wouldn't change much there either.
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Mine is a "Yes" but I'm assuming we're talking about a 6th gen here. The 5th Gen should look as it does, but if we're tweaking things for the next gen, aero improvements would be a good way to go. Sure it is very good as it is right now. In fact it is far better than I expected given that even the designers acknowledged the design compromised aerodynamics. But, the key to making a car the benchmark for its class is to continually improve its strong points. I'm thinking a 6th gen with a grill and lights flush with the front of the car could shave a few Cd points. As fuel economy regs and consideration by the buying public goes up, aerodynamics (along with weight) will become even more important.
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it would be more important if you were trying to do stuff like the texas mile http://www.texasmile.net/

its lower than i thought it would be which pleases me,but even if it was higher it would not sway me from getting one.
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