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Old 12-06-2011, 01:49 AM   #18
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ok im getting a vararam intake tomorrow so thats all that im goin to put in
just the intake,cam, and tune...
would that be fine? or i need the headers too???
If you have the funds, you should do it all... like the last poster said, leaving a lot of power on the table and long tube headers were one of the best jumps I have had...simple and relatively cost effective if you look at the gains.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:16 AM   #19
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Like I was saying above...
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:40 AM   #20
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I'm definitely not a "know-it-all," but if you ask any of the respected vendors on here, they will all tell you you're leaving a lot of power on the table if you do a cam without upgrading to long-tube headers.

Ted has stated before that doing a cam without headers is not smart, the cam wont even show good numbers at all. you would get more power from headers and a CAI, then a cam alone.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:28 AM   #21
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You are looking at about $4,500.00 for a cam, headers, CAI, and tune. To gain 60-70 rwhp, you can gain more by going with a more aggressive cam but you may have issues with driveability. Another option is bolt on a maggie kit for $6,500.00 and pick up 80-100 rwhp with no other mods than a tune. Then add headers and cai later for another 50-60 rwhp.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:07 AM   #22
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You need basic bolt ons before proceeding with a cam.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:08 AM   #23
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You are looking at about $4,500.00 for a cam, headers, CAI, and tune. To gain 60-70 rwhp, you can gain more by going with a more aggressive cam but you may have issues with driveability. Another option is bolt on a maggie kit for $6,500.00 and pick up 80-100 rwhp with no other mods than a tune. Then add headers and cai later for another 50-60 rwhp.
You don't just throw a maggie on.

You need quite a bit of supporting mods. Ie fuel pump.

Not that easy
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:49 AM   #24
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Always buy mods that will set you up for potential future mods you may have in mind. I would start with CAI, headers, full exhaust 3" or 2.5" depending on what your future horsepower goals are.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:02 AM   #25
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Save yourself some time and money. Buy the cold air intake, tuner, and long tube headers. You will notice a huge difference in the car. I originally wanted to do the cam before doing the headers, but if you don't allow the engine to pull in and remove the air more efficiently you will be wasting money on the cam for a small gain. Believe me the car feels way more powerfull after installing the headers axle back exhaust cold air intake and tune. My next step is to do the cam when I have the money for it.

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Old 12-06-2011, 11:06 AM   #26
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You are looking at about $4,500.00 for a cam, headers, CAI, and tune. To gain 60-70 rwhp, you can gain more by going with a more aggressive cam but you may have issues with driveability. Another option is bolt on a maggie kit for $6,500.00 and pick up 80-100 rwhp with no other mods than a tune. Then add headers and cai later for another 50-60 rwhp.
I totally agree with you. I did install the Maggie and I'm very happy with it, no other mods except high flow air filter. Now I ordered American racing full exhaust system with lt headers and cai. I do all my shopping from Ted@JannettyRacing, he doesn't only sell parts but he always there to give you recommendations and advice to whatever you want.

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Old 12-06-2011, 11:28 AM   #27
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Save yourself some time and money. Buy the cold air intake, tuner, and long tube headers. You will notice a huge difference in the car. I originally wanted to do the cam before doing the headers, but if you don't allow the engine to pull in and remove the air more efficiently you will be wasting money on the cam for a small gain. Believe me the car feels way more powerfull after installing the headers axle back exhaust cold air intake and tune. My next step is to do the cam when I have the money for it.

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Old 12-06-2011, 11:30 AM   #28
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the headers ar too expensive, more expensive than the cam. i think i should rather save up money and go for the headers and then later on the cam. you all guys kno more than me so i guess ima listen to u all
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:36 PM   #29
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Go for it, but remember even some vendors just want your money, nothing against them for that. Just get your headers, careless x or H and a nice cat back with a CAI. them your cam. Stay away from the Tb spacers and the ported TB gimmicks. They are worthless. Good luck on your build.
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the headers ar too expensive, more expensive than the cam. i think i should rather save up money and go for the headers and then later on the cam. you all guys kno more than me so i guess ima listen to u all
Telling you right now, man, if you had an LS3, I would agree, but with an L99 and all the things that SHOULD go with it, after labor and tune it will cost more. 4-5k is not uncommon. Replacing the oil pump, possibly a torque converter, and completing a conversion (including lifters) to handle even a VVT cam I believe will run you 500-800 dollars.

Headers, exhaust, and CAI should not push you over 3k with labor/tune. I'd like to know who told you that package would cost you less, because I need to talk to them.. I don't think they are including the labor/tune.

Longtube Headers will NOT disappoint you, since you have already gone the tune route, go ahead and drop the AFM/DOD if you haven't already. The sound is awful with headers and I actually gained MPGs after the tune.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:03 PM   #31
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You can install headers and cold air intake and a axle back or cat back exhaust yourself and save yourself the labor. It is not difficult to do. It is just basic hand tools. You can buy a SCT tuner and most parts dealer will hook you up with a free tune too. Jannetty did that for me.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:27 PM   #32
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the headers ar too expensive, more expensive than the cam. i think i should rather save up money and go for the headers and then later on the cam. you all guys kno more than me so i guess ima listen to u all

Oh man.

You're going to be surprised in the end. Cam cost the same after labor and tune that full bolt ons do.

And you won't get very good numbers without the increased airflow that bolt ons would give you.

But it's your money.. Just don't come back on here upset at being a 350rwhp cammed l99 when the rest of us are hitting over 400 easy.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:10 PM   #33
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i just installed the vararam intake right now and oh man what a diffrence. car responds faster and the sound it makes its better. ill be looking forward to headers
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the headers ar too expensive, more expensive than the cam. i think i should rather save up money and go for the headers and then later on the cam. you all guys kno more than me so i guess ima listen to u all
Go with OBX, Doug Thorley, Stainless Works "off brand", ect. These are all around $500 give or take.
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