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Old 12-09-2014, 06:50 AM   #1
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New 2015! Question about seat design

Hi all,

Purged my 201 Challenger R/T and just got a new Camaro!!!!. Absolutely love it. Perfect condition, not even a rattle of any kind. But I do have one irritating (uncomfortable) issue maybe someone can help with.

The Challenger had more inside room. The space in the Camaro is fine, but the front seats are quite narrow (in my opinion). I can deal a narrower seats, but the problem is the sides of these eats, where the seat is raised to hold you in place. The sides are raised up considerably more than any car I've owned ('ve had Corvettes and Porches in the past, so I understand the design to hold me in place). The only way to keep my butt and legs flatly in the seats is if I drive with my knees close to each other. That not comfortable or practical. Otherwise my legs end up pretty much resting on top of those elevated sides. it feels awkward and is starting to give me a backache. I am 5'10 188. I've adjusted the seats up and down, front all the way down, but no configuration works. My legs are resting on those elevated sides.

Anyone else have this problem? More importantly, does any know a way to flatten those sides? (If there is foam in there that can be removed or some other way?) Im open to all ideas, including taking these seats out and installing different ones. Wouldn't know where to begin to make that happen and have them fit the car in every way and still have functioning electronic seat adjustments. I need flatter sided seats.

Help! Thanks much......Ken. Harpers Ferry, WV (DC metro area)
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:01 AM   #2
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Ken, I can't help you with your seat issue. BUT.....

CONGRATS on your ride and Welcome to our happy little corner of the net, and to Camaro5. There is a BIG fridge on the back porch with anything you can think of in it...help yourself...of course only take what you can LEGALLY have. Make yourself at home on one of the big fluffy couches, kick your shoes off, put your feet up on one of the tables, yes we are allowed to do that, mom's, dad's, wives', husband's, girlfriend's and boyfriend's here don't care....and take it easy.



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Old 12-09-2014, 07:05 AM   #3
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welcome, sorry about the seat fit.. I'm sure they will loosen up, just don't know how much..
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:02 AM   #4
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Yeah, it sounds like they may have accidentally installed the optional RECARO seats in your car. If so, those were all made too small, are very uncomfortable and yucky. If this is the case, I am certain someone on this forum would trade you their stock (more comfortable) seats for your RECAROS + $20.

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Old 12-13-2014, 04:00 AM   #5
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..doubt you would have recaros in the V6, but you should've known ahead of time that you were downsizing from a fridge to a microwave oven.

..btw, congrats
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:32 AM   #6
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The raised sides on the seats are what they are - extra support to "hug" your hips and butt. What they are not is rigid and inflexible. Look... the actual flat part of the seat is only 14" at it's widest (where your thighs rest), and 12" at the narrowest (where your butt rest). What grown man has a 12" wide butt, when seated? Only little skinny dudes, which you are not. I'm 6'-3" and 260 pounds and have no problem displacing the raised sides of the seat. I find them quite comfortable actually.

You just need to get used to a slightly tighter space, coming from that big boat Challenger. Give 'em time and you'll come to love it. And if your back is hurting it isn't due to the narrow seats - it because of your seat adjustment. You don't say if you have an auto or a manual (which would be helpful if you added that to your "Drives:" info), but I suggest you move the seat back as far as you can and still safely reach the pedals. Keep experimenting with the tilt/height/back angle and you will eventually find your comfort zone.
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:48 AM   #7
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Thanks for all the advice! Correct, the seats are not Recaros. I don't think of my former Challenger all that much bigger than the Camaro, at all. The sides of the seats weren't raised up to 'hug' the hips like in the Camaro. I am sure I will get used to it, just feels awkward. Nonetheless, don't know why they make these seats for someone 5'9 130. That's no where near the average guy's stats! For a normal-sized guy (me), the legs will rest atop those raised sides and I realllly don't think that is the best seat design for the lower back.
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:11 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the advice! Correct, the seats are not Recaros. I don't think of my former Challenger all that much bigger than the Camaro, at all. The sides of the seats weren't raised up to 'hug' the hips like in the Camaro. I am sure I will get used to it, just feels awkward. Nonetheless, don't know why they make these seats for someone 5'9 130. That's no where near the average guy's stats! For a normal-sized guy (me), the legs will rest atop those raised sides and I realllly don't think that is the best seat design for the lower back.
I doubt they designed them for a person that is 5'9 130lbs..
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:27 AM   #9
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I doubt they designed them for a person that is 5'9 130lbs..
Hahaha +1

Maybe the for the Eurospec Camaro?
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:13 AM   #10
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:23 AM   #11
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Yeah, it sounds like they may have accidentally installed the optional RECARO seats in your car. If so, those were all made too small, are very uncomfortable and yucky. If this is the case, I am certain someone on this forum would trade you their stock (more comfortable) seats for your RECAROS + $20.

Below is what the stock seats look like...

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And this is the yucky Recaro seats...

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I can't tell if you're trying to make him give up his Recaros, haha.
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I doubt they designed them for a person that is 5'9 130lbs..
Miata was designed for the small Asian male...and I, with my 5'8" 220lb frame fits in them fine. The Camaro feels like a palace with all the room in comparison.
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I can't tell if you're trying to make him give up his Recaros, haha.
Eaxctly what I thought , Exchange with stock plus throw in a extra $20 bucks
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:45 AM   #14
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I am 6'2" 260lbs and have no problem getting comfortable in this car.

You want tight? go sit in a 4th Gen.
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Old 12-13-2014, 11:48 AM   #15
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I'm 6' 2" and 300 #.

Don't have a problem with the seat sides....the actual seat angle is "different" though.Took some getting used to.
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:09 PM   #16
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Miata? Isn't that what Fred Flinstone drove? lol. Thanks all for the advice, I will get used to the seats. It's a different feel, not hurting my back like some cars do.....
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:14 PM   #17
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I understand, I hate the recaro's too. Like the look, that's about it.
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:31 PM   #18
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If any of you with Recaros willing to trade for my mint 2SS black leather seats, with under 6000 miles of actual driving on them, hardly ever seen direct sunlight(when parked), and treated with the same concoctions the Rolls Royce dudes use in their club, hit me up for a trade.

But if your Recaros are not 100% mint, don't bother contacting me .
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If any of you with Recaros willing to trade for my mint 2SS black leather seats, with under 6000 miles of actual driving on them, hardly ever seen direct sunlight(when parked), and treated with the same concoctions the Rolls Royce dudes use in their club, hit me up for a trade.

But if your Recaros are not 100% mint, don't bother contacting me .
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If any of you with Recaros willing to trade for my mint 2SS black leather seats, with under 6000 miles of actual driving on them, hardly ever seen direct sunlight(when parked), and treated with the same concoctions the Rolls Royce dudes use in their club, hit me up for a trade.

But if your Recaros are not 100% mint, don't bother contacting me .
You may also need some of this , to go with your REACAROS
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I mean the seats are a little tight when new because the foam needs to be broken in but other than that it should be fine, I am 6'2" 200 and they fit perfect i like them a lot the only thing is i wish i had a little more head room but thats what my Silverado is for.
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You may also need some of this , to go with your REACAROS
Only if it's a 5 star type of sativa, nothing more nothing less, and to my specs of course , and please no hybrid/indica based strains, as the lounge prefers that, not the Recaros .

So yeah I'm game, but I'm not being optimistic either.
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I'm 6'2", about 200, and have no issues fitting in the seat. However, when I first got the car it caused me to have a back ache every time I drove it more than 20 minutes or so. My girlfriend, 5'6" and about 130, had the same issue. The good news is that after putting a few thousand miles on the car we seem to have gotten used to it. I now find the seats comfortable even after hundreds of miles, (knocking on wood).

I am not sure what happened, but can guess that our bodies just needed to get acclimated to the new seats. Hopefully the same will be true for you.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:43 AM   #24
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the portion of the seat your are referring to is called the "bolster" it is there to keep a person from sliding off the seats in cornering maneuvers and was actually increased over the years of production to fit the average butt better so as to not go sideways so much. Simply go to a upholstery shop and get a estimate to remove some of the foam and then they will have to alter that seam so you do not have extra material. I was doing auto upholstery when I was young, its called the bolstering the portions of the seat that come out on the sides. Good luck, and foam does degrade over time also, and if your into doing it yourself there are a few good seat cover companies already making them for the Camaro and they can cover up...... lol

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Dude, I weigh 360lbs and I find the seats comfortable and they are on either side of me.
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