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Old 10-07-2012, 09:17 PM   #101
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I plan on the purchase of pirrelis....... they come in the right sizes for the zl1 and can be found at tire rack ..........they should have made the zl1 come with p zeros just like my ss
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:49 PM   #102
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Buddy of mine bought a 2012 GT500 the same month I got my ZL1. It has the exact same tires as the ZL1 just different size. Has Ford not the same warnings to their customers?
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:51 PM   #103
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Buddy of mine bought a 2012 GT500 the same month I got my ZL1. It has the exact same tires as the ZL1 just different size. Has Ford not the same warnings to their customers?
#1 They are not GM warnings. The warnings come from Goodyear.
#2 The tread compound developed for the ZR1 is supposed to be proprietary and unique to the ZL1
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:59 PM   #104
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Last winter they were driving the fleet of test vehicles all winter in the Detroit area, what tires were on those cars. I fortunately have a heated garage, and it gets cold in GB, was 20 F last night. I've even thought of putting my Z on blocks, and putting the tires in a warm safe place, but there's always the possibility of a fire and it would suck if the car's on blocks and wouldn't be able to move. This sucks!!!!
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:02 PM   #105
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Last winter they were driving the fleet of test vehicles all winter in the Detroit area, what tires were on those cars. I fortunately have a heated garage, and it gets cold in GB, was 20 F last night. I've even thought of putting my Z on blocks, and putting the tires in a warm safe place, but there's always the possibility of a fire and it would suck if the car's on blocks and wouldn't be able to move. This sucks!!!!
Pirellis. fbodfather made a thread about it
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:39 PM   #106
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#1 They are not GM warnings. The warnings come from Goodyear.
#2 The tread compound developed for the ZR1 is supposed to be proprietary and unique to the ZL1
I guess it's not in the owner's manual. I was in the ZL1 info videos.
I'm sure his GT500 has the same tread compound. They are the exact same F1 G2 supercar tire. Same tread pattern, same coumpound, just a little smaller.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:48 PM   #107
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Thanks Mr. Wyndham / I used to be Dragoneye for the information.
I'd like to say that knowing the ZL1 is a "Factory built Race Car" with "Summer Only
Tires"... it has to be cared for in an appropriate manner.
Read the Bulletins and make an informed decision.
Take care of it and it will serve thee well.
And the ZL1 is MOST certainly a Daily Driver Car.... just NOT below 40 degrees.
Be safe and enjoy !
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:01 PM   #108
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These tires sure act like drag radials. Outside temp is 46 F here and they are like hockey pucks, but hook pretty decent in hot temps.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:33 AM   #109
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There are weeks here where it doesnt get above 40 degrees. Guess it will have to be under its heated blanket.
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I guess it's not in the owner's manual. I was in the ZL1 info videos.
I'm sure his GT500 has the same tread compound. They are the exact same F1 G2 supercar tire. Same tread pattern, same coumpound, just a little smaller.
PS2 are a good example of same tire, looks identical but is a different tire. Micheline makes the PS2 in a 305/30/19 buried in the Michelin info is a special N designation model of the same tire used only on a Porsche. Last year we ran Michelins that require a VIN from a supercar to order.

Part of the ZL1 development was working with GY to create a ZL1 specific set of tires. They are supposed to be exclusive to GM.

We do work for a number of different companies and specific applications. We would never sell the exact same spec product to one of their competitors. On the other hand when a business partner pushes you to develop a better product it is very hard to keep that knowledge tied up in a box. Our Chevrolet Sonic coilovers are absolutely AWESOME. Hands down they are the best small FWD project we have done. If Honda were to call and ask for coilovers for a similar size, weight and configuration vehicle how could we start the new project without knowing what works so well on the Sonic? Proprietary Intellectual Property Rights are always protected and respected. Separating Proprietary Intellectual Property Rights from Knowledge and Experience is a legal, moral and ethical dilemma.

Are the Ford GYs the same as the ZL1 GYs? My guess is there are compound and construction difference, but there are also a lot of similarities.
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PS2 are a good example of same tire, looks identical but is a different tire. Micheline makes the PS2 in a 305/30/19 buried in the Michelin info is a special N designation model of the same tire used only on a Porsche. Last year we ran Michelins that require a VIN from a supercar to order.

Part of the ZL1 development was working with GY to create a ZL1 specific set of tires. They are supposed to be exclusive to GM.

We do work for a number of different companies and specific applications. We would never sell the exact same spec product to one of their competitors. On the other hand when a business partner pushes you to develop a better product it is very hard to keep that knowledge tied up in a box. Our Chevrolet Sonic coilovers are absolutely AWESOME. Hands down they are the best small FWD project we have done. If Honda were to call and ask for coilovers for a similar size, weight and configuration vehicle how could we start the new project without knowing what works so well on the Sonic? Proprietary Intellectual Property Rights are always protected and respected. Separating Proprietary Intellectual Property Rights from Knowledge and Experience is a legal, moral and ethical dilemma.

Are the Ford GYs the same as the ZL1 GYs? My guess is there are compound and construction difference, but there are also a lot of similarities.
I read somewhere that the Mustang 285 were heavier than the ZL1 285
because construction was different. Tire Rack list two different 285
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:59 PM   #112
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I read somewhere that the Mustang 285 were heavier than the ZL1 285
because construction was different. Tire Rack list two different 285
Yes, a left and a right side tire.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:33 PM   #113
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Yes, a left and a right side tire.
Actually that's wrong. There are 4 different 285's. The GT500 tires are a lower load rating for a lighter car. 92Y for Gt500 vs. 100Y for ZL1 . So Goodyear makes the F1 G2 in only 8 different sizes/load capacity. 4 for the ZL1 and 4 for the GT500. I still think the tread compound is the same on all of them. And apparently my friends 2012 GT500 has the SVT Performance Package because the base GT500 in '12 got smaller tires and not the Goodyear F1 G2.

And the ZL1 tires are the heavier.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:05 AM   #114
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I think this thread needs to stay alive even though it's getting a little long in the tooth.

I'll be driving my 2013 ZL1 vert not exactly daily, but on nice days. Never in the snow and unlikely in the rain. Nice days in KY can be cold days, and my car barn is nice but unheated. I'll never likely track the car. So is there any good reason that I shouldn't consider finding the best all-season performance tire I can, put them on for good, and sell my factory tires to one of my C5 trackers at a good price?

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Old 12-19-2012, 09:12 AM   #115
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I think this thread needs to stay alive even though it's getting a little long in the tooth.

I'll be driving my 2013 ZL1 vert not exactly daily, but on nice days. Never in the snow and unlikely in the rain. Nice days in KY can be cold days, and my car barn is nice but unheated. I'll never likely track the car. So is there any good reason that I shouldn't consider finding the best all-season performance tire I can, put them on for good, and sell my factory tires to one of my C5 trackers at a good price?

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Based on the above, you don't have a need for A/S tires. You wont be driving in any conditions that would make them useful and your summer traction and handling will get worse.
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I was just concerned about driving on dry, but cold 30-40 degree days, and also, not having a warm place for them when it's -10 to + 20 which it will be in Jan and Feb. All season tires can just stay on the car, in the cold barn all year round.

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I was just concerned about driving on dry, but cold 30-40 degree days, and also, not having a warm place for them when it's -10 to + 20 which it will be in Jan and Feb. All season tires can just stay on the car, in the cold barn all year round.

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That's up to you, but you're going to sacrifice the handling and grip of the OE tire for the remainder of the year where it's not cold enough to need an A/S tire. It's your car and do what you want, I just think that putting an A/S tire on permanently is a waste of a car in your scenario. Personally, if I had the means/space that you do, I'd just have a cold weather set of wheels/tires so I could actually enjoy the car most of the year on the proper tire.

I just don't want to see you put a "meh" tire on the car and not get full enjoyment of the car in the warm weather is all..
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Yeah, I'm definitely considering the 2nd set.

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I was just concerned about driving on dry, but cold 30-40 degree days, and also, not having a warm place for them when it's -10 to + 20 which it will be in Jan and Feb. All season tires can just stay on the car, in the cold barn all year round.

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I had the same concerns. Thats why I went with the Conti DWS as my off season tires.

I am very happy with them as they have very good traction on cold days. Also they were half the price of the Pirellis.

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What sizes did you get?
275 and 315.

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Old 12-19-2012, 09:33 PM   #122
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If you're storing your car in an unheated area you could always put it on 4 jack stands to take the pressure off the tires. A heck of a lot cheaper than 4 new wheels and tires.
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...bottom line in cold weather regions of the Country on factory tires. Drive the car if you want, have fun, listen to the radio...just don't stand on it or try to drive it hard. It's not forgiving. One might as well be on ice... traction deficit to the max.
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I am planning to put these on mine as soon as it gets here. Why did you go with 275/40 instead of 275/35 on the front?
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To be honest I have no idea why. The dealer recommended to use them.
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