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Old 12-11-2011, 01:04 PM   #1
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Turbo(s) in Engine Bay?

How come it hasn't been done? Why put turbos where the mufflers normally are.. Like STS?

Seems like that's a really bad place for water ingestion.. Plus the lag is much greater as the gasses have to travel through 20 feet of piping. V8's have turbos nicely tucked in the engine bay.
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I know one advantage of it heat. When you have turbos in the engine bay its like a big ol heater there which is alot harder to cool then the rear or mid mount turbos
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:12 PM   #3
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Engine bay causes to much heat. Sts is designed as a sleeper system also. Lags not that big of a problem. And long as you don't go off roading waters not a problem.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:18 PM   #4
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I know one advantage of it heat. When you have turbos in the engine bay its like a big ol heater there which is alot harder to cool then the rear or mid mount turbos
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Engine bay causes to much heat. Sts is designed as a sleeper system also. Lags not that big of a problem. And long as you don't go off roading waters not a problem.
I agree with you there but thats how factory subi's, bmw's etc.. do it. And somehow it works for them. If a system is designed well.. heat isn't an issue. To me I think it comes down to money. A engine bay system is more complex and cost more money to design/develop. But I think it looks much more professional and presentable then chopping off your mufflers and sticking turbo's there.
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How come it hasn't been done? Why put turbos where the mufflers normally are.. Like STS?

Seems like that's a really bad place for water ingestion.. Plus the lag is much greater as the gasses have to travel through 20 feet of piping. V8's have turbos nicely tucked in the engine bay.
Who says it hasn't been done. There are a few custom builds on here and here is a ready to buy kit.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:25 PM   #6
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Who says it hasn't been done. There are a few custom builds on here and here is a ready to buy kit.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180219

Yes I know it's been done on a V8.. That's why I am asking why nobody has done it on a V6!
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:31 PM   #7
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Yes I know it's been done on a V8.. That's why I am asking why nobody has done it on a V6!
Oops, didn't see what section I was in.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:33 PM   #8
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Oops, didn't see what section I was in.
It's ok.. That video was fun to watch!!!
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:41 PM   #9
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Yes, with transverse mounted I4s most manufacturers mount them between the engine and the firewall or between the radiator and the engine. Remember, those only have one header, so it is fairly easy to do that and provide adequate heat sheilding. Look at the V6 turbos that Ford is producing. They mount them lower than the Subies and Evos. They have more space down there to sheild from heat than if they had to move all that piping up high.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:41 PM   #10
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Jealous of that turbonetic kit
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:19 PM   #11
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Jealous of that turbonetic kit
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My concern with the STS kit is my car is my only car and when I go FI I don't want to worry about the turbos getting f'd up
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Old 12-11-2011, 05:05 PM   #13
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My concern with the STS kit is my car is my only car and when I go FI I don't want to worry about the turbos getting f'd up
A lot of people might not agree with me but thats why you buy a used turbo off craiglist or cheap ebay turbo to hold you over for at most a month until you can get a new or rebuilt one. I used my backup ebay turbo for a week when switching turbos and spooled and felt just as fast as using name brand turbo!
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I wouldn't trust an ebay/craiglist turbo. And I've always liked the turbos in the engine bay.

Now if we had an under aero kit that could also serve as a protectant to the rear mounted turbos then I would be alright with rears.
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I understand the need of having a backup turbo. so no downtime on your car. but eaby is kinda fishy. but if its only a backup
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Do the V6 and V8 share the same stock exhaust?
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Do the V6 and V8 share the same stock exhaust?
Nope, different diameter at minimum. As for protecting the turbos, I had a local shop build a skid plate to protect the mid-mounted ones. I'm pretty sure you could do the same for the rear mounted ones, too. Just an idea.
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I understand the need of having a backup turbo. so no downtime on your car. but eaby is kinda fishy. but if its only a backup
Yea they are but since the maro is my only car and I couldn't get a loaner froma family member that week, I couldn't have any downtime since I need my car to get to work. If the maro was just my weekend warrior, it would've never got the ebay treatment lol! Oh the pt6765 I'm running now for the past 5 months is a craiglist used turbo, just gotta know what your looking at.

Engine bay mounted would be awesome but will require some movemnet of things in the engine bay.
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Nope, different diameter at minimum. As for protecting the turbos, I had a local shop build a skid plate to protect the mid-mounted ones. I'm pretty sure you could do the same for the rear mounted ones, too. Just an idea.

the rear mount intake is right above the turbo so a skid plate would stop alot of the air from going into the intake/ and cooling the turbo
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the rear mount intake is right above the turbo so a skid plate would stop alot of the air from going into the intake/ and cooling the turbo
Doesn't have to be big, just enough to deflect stuff from hitting the turbo. You could also have the cut louvers in it.
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Pretty sure the exhaust is the exchangable from v6 to v8 from anywhere behind the cats. V-8 was just half inch bigger dia. if memory serves me right. I know there is a old post of a guy running the cherry bomb cat back for a v8 on his v6. Sounded bad but it fit.

If there is someone out the looking to do a custom engine bay mount v6 turbo many parts of this kit would probably cross over very well. To boot we would have alittle more clearance to mount the turbo due to the lack of 2 cylinders.

Wish I just had the money to try it. Sure woud be fun to be the first engine bay mounted v6 turbo that works.
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If there is someone out the looking to do a custom engine bay mount v6 turbo many parts of this kit would probably cross over very well. To boot we would have alittle more clearance to mount the turbo due to the lack of 2 cylinders.

Wish I just had the money to try it. Sure woud be fun to be the first engine bay mounted v6 turbo that works.
Yes thats what I was thinking.. Plus its a good price w/o the tune!
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Bumping this just a bit. Maybe gretchen or tracy could chime in on this. My question is if 90% of these parts would fit what kind of problems would one run into with this kit by retro fitting to our 6. You two have the largest fi knowledge i know of.
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Check with SC2150 with rx performance. They were doing the supercharger and turbo builds I talked to him about it swell I want the turbo kit because people are just seeming to get better numbers from them rather than the supercharger. He said they would do a engine bay mounted turbo kit for a limited time.
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Im going to be at RX on saturday talking to Tracy. I as well want a engine bay turbo kit. I figure a larger single mounted where the air box is now. It gives you all the power + some thing to look at when you pop your hood.
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