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Old 05-05-2009, 10:51 PM   #188
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You're going in circles. 1/4 mile times are close because the Camaro is limited by traction. Throw some DR's on it and you're at least a half second faster than the 370Z, not even a race. The Z isn't limited by traction (because its gutless on the low end) so its times would most likely be the same.

What you're neglecting to factor in is trap speed. Once again, 111MPH is incomparably faster than 105MPH. Thats the push you get as the car is accelerating. And comparing 105MPH to 111MPH is like comparing a house cat to a mountain lion.
Lets wait and see who runs 111mph... if i remember correctly thats about the GT500
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:58 PM   #189
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Lets wait and see who runs 111mph... if i remember correctly thats about the GT500
Wait and see??

Motortrend: 111MPH

The tests have been done. Edmunds and C&D also got 111MPH trap speeds.

Why are you in denial??
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Wait and see??

Motortrend: 111MPH

The tests have been done. Edmunds and C&D also got 111MPH trap speeds.

Why are you in denial??





i guess some people, just dont get it.




The 370z is a MUCH better handling car than the Camaro. It cant come close to keeping up. Where as the Camaro is FRACTIONS of a second faster than the Z. Even after 13+ seconds. To me, thats enough to dub the Z the better stock performance car.
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Old 05-05-2009, 11:49 PM   #191
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And I'm saying I disagree.

You'd think this is a Nissan forum the way these ricers talk up their Z cars


Its no different on ls1tech.com.....lol. These are the same class of guys who go on rival sport team websites to tell you why their team is better, or is better in certain situations.


The import guys come on tech and wave their epeins all the time.

Fact is, when it comes down to it.....you never see a camaro getting an import motor transplant....but the first motor 350z guys and rx7 guys run to for power is an lsx.


No shit a ****ing 370z better beat the camaro on a road track....its a ****ing two seater thats 500lbs less.

For the record the 350z was a mid 14sec car at the strip..Ive seen tons of them. 1/4 mile turd.

Are they two different classes....sure. But people dont road race on the street. They drag race or roll race.

Fact is most people will never take their cars to either track. They will beat on them on the street and thats about it.

370 is a direct competitor for c6 corvette....end rant.

Plus the z is a waste of money to mod as the motor is pretty tapped from the factory. An ls motor is just waiting to uncork more power. So have fun when your cammed full exhaust 370z is losing to a stock ss with drag radials..LOL

really end rant.
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Its no different on ls1tech.com.....lol. These are the same class of guys who go on rival sport team websites to tell you why their team is better, or is better in certain situations.


The import guys come on tech and wave their epeins all the time.

Fact is, when it comes down to it.....you never see a camaro getting an import motor transplant....but the first motor 350z guys and rx7 guys run to for power is an lsx.


No shit a ****ing 370z better beat the camaro on a road track....its a ****ing two seater thats 500lbs less.

For the record the 350z was a mid 14sec car at the strip..Ive seen tons of them. 1/4 mile turd.

Are they two different classes....sure. But people dont road race on the street. They drag race or roll race.

Fact is most people will never take their cars to either track. They will beat on them on the street and thats about it.

370 is a direct competitor for c6 corvette....end rant.

Plus the z is a waste of money to mod as the motor is pretty tapped from the factory. An ls motor is just waiting to uncork more power. So have fun when your cammed full exhaust 370z is losing to a stock ss with drag radials..LOL

really end rant.
woah, take it easy there pal, six posts and already swearing up a storm- time to relax and take a deep breath, it'll be okay.

'Was' in your sentence is the keyword, won't see many 07+ 350z's running 14's unless they can't drive or are at high altitude.

Z waste of money to mod? I won't waste my time on posting the number of guys at my350z.com who are putting down well over 300 whp with a few basic bolt-ons, so I don't think so but nice try. It may be more expensive to mod, but certainly not a waste of money. Keep it civil, you can prove a point without swearing and taking this thread down a notch.
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/N...-at_680164.htm


lol.

Whoa big dog....300whp? Really?
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:08 AM   #194
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i guess some people, just dont get it.




The 370z is a MUCH better handling car than the Camaro. It cant come close to keeping up. Where as the Camaro is FRACTIONS of a second faster than the Z. Even after 13+ seconds. To me, thats enough to dub the Z the better stock performance car.

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA...... MUCH is a strong word. the 370z isnt MUCH better at handling than the camaro. its just better. they are both good handlers but the camaro cant keep up in the extreme twisties.

and by the by FRACTIONS of a second are night and day when it comes to racing.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:12 AM   #195
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/N...-at_680164.htm


lol.

Whoa big dog....300whp? Really?

So you post a vid of a guy who just got his 370z on possibly his first runs in it and it's supposed to mean something? Okay, so according to your logic, here you go 'Big Dog', really? What do you know, a new Camaro running the same times, anybody can cherry pick to confirm their limited knowledge
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:53 AM   #196
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If you want "BRA-OOOM!" - get Camaro.

If you want "MMM-VROOM!" - Get Nissan.

Problem solved.
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Old 05-06-2009, 02:06 AM   #197
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Lmao THE Z boys kill me, we all know the VQ is a wonderful engine, really it is.
you take us and when i mean "us", i mean "fanyboys" as if we live and die by our "camaro'ss." well we all are very informed about the comp. BUT we just dont care about your "lackluster"iVQ
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Old 05-06-2009, 02:08 AM   #198
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So you post a vid of a guy who just got his 370z on possibly his first runs in it and it's supposed to mean something? Okay, so according to your logic, here you go 'Big Dog', really? What do you know, a new Camaro running the same times, anybody can cherry pick to confirm their limited knowledge
please take a look at trap speeds
camaro 107.xx
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BIG no HUGE difference take your "MUCH" better handling car to an auto cross
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:14 AM   #199
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If the camaro would never have come out I would have gone for the 370Z, I owned a 350Z for a year ... I'm wondering who else would buy a Z if Camaro never came out?
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If the camaro would never have come out I would have gone for the 370Z, I owned a 350Z for a year ... I'm wondering who else would buy a Z if Camaro never came out?
im sur3 there are many but i wiuld go for a mustang...
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If the camaro would never have come out I would have gone for the 370Z, I owned a 350Z for a year ... I'm wondering who else would buy a Z if Camaro never came out?
Count me in on that. I was about to sell the my 350z and pick up a 370z. But since we also have an S2000 I was starting to think about switching to the Camaro instead. The S and the Z have basically the same goal in mind, of being extremely nimble two seaters, but the S is a bit better at it since the Z sacrifices some of its handling for more power and ride comfort. Knowing that the 370z would have to be pretty radical to have the same razor-sharp handling feel that the S2000 has and that money would be better spent modifying the S for even better handling and power got me really thinking about going American muscle instead. The fact that we now have a baby on the way pretty much sealed the deal.

I looked at Mustang, Camaro and Challenger initially. The Challenger I just plain didn't like. Pretty much the same interior as the 300C that my brother in law has (which I never liked) and a sloppy suspension. The styling on the Mustang never really drew me in, and even though all the tests on the 2010 Mustang (all of which have the Track package by the way) show it ahead of the Camaro for handling I think the Camaro still has more potential. Plus I feel the LS3 is a much better motor than the other 2.
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If the camaro would of never come out...I would of bought an 02-03 z06. Better looking and faster than the s2000 and 350z. Plus they can be had for $22-23K. Or, I would of never sold my 98SS.

The s2000 is about as lame a car as you can get for a 2 seater rwd platform.
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WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA...... MUCH is a strong word. the 370z isnt MUCH better at handling than the camaro. its just better. they are both good handlers but the camaro cant keep up in the extreme twisties.

and by the by FRACTIONS of a second are night and day when it comes to racing.
Nope. MUCH is likely an Understatment.


And those Fractions are non-existant in everyday driving. Only when you push them at full force do they separate themselves by Fractions of a seconds.


As i remember it the Camaro cant even keep up with the mustang on handling
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obv 370z is a better track car, i mean it even rev matches for you!

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