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Old 04-27-2009, 11:56 AM   #26
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Well the reason i said its a girl ride is because thats all i see driving them.
You are gonna see wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more girls driving Camaros than 370Z's
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:13 PM   #27
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You are gonna see wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more girls driving Camaros than 370Z's
without a doubt, and to the person who called the 350 a chick car, I've yet to come across a single chick driving a 350z- they may be out there, but not nearly as many as I've seen 'American Muscle' (i.e. Mustangs, and soon to be 2010 Camaro)
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The 350Z was a chick car..Here is proof..

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Old 04-27-2009, 12:17 PM   #29
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The 350Z was a chick car..Here is proof..

beautiful, no complaints here
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:24 PM   #30
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Camaro's may hve their own stereotypes for their owners..Well...This here though is the stereotypical owner of a 350Z...


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Old 04-27-2009, 03:27 PM   #32
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Camaro's may hve their own stereotypes for their owners..Well...This here though is the stereotypical owner of a 350Z...


wtf? haha...



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Old 04-28-2009, 03:11 AM   #33
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Wow, this thread is going nowhere... Let's actually look at a raw numbers comparison of the 370z and Camaro SS. I'm going to take all the performance figures from one place, I'll use motortrend since they seem to be fairly consistent. I'll get most of the hardware specs from edmunds.com since they include a lot of info but i won't use their test data because it seems like each article on the 370z from them has wildly different numbers.
Note: I will be using specs, data, and pricing for 370z with the sport package. The upgraded brakes, wheels/tires, and addition of an LSD mean this is the most comparable to the Camaro SS.

I'm pretty sure Motortrend uses a 1 foot rollout for their 0-60 tests, so add about .3 seconds to these numbers for real world performance.
0-60 370z: 4.7s
0-60 Camaro: 4.6s

1/4 Mile ET/MPH 370z: 13.3/105.7
1/4 Mile ET/MPH Camaro: 13.0/111

Skidpad G 370z: .99g
Skidpad G Camaro: .90g

Slalom 370z: 69.0 (edmunds.com)
Slalom Camaro: 68.6 (edmunds.com)

60-0 370z: 106ft
60-0 Camaro: 105ft (manual transmission)


370z Weight: 3232lbs
Camaro Weight: 3860lbs

HP/TQ 370z: 332/270
HP/TQ Camaro: 426/420

Camaro 1SS MSRP: $31,040
Similarly equipped 370z: $32,930 (370z with Sport Package)

Camaro 2SS MSRP: $34,225
Similarly equipped 370z: $37,460 (370z Touring with Sport Package)
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:33 AM   #34
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In the real world a friend of mine has a '06 GTO that is stock except for a diablo sport tune. His car is faster than his friend's 370Z.
Could be a driver issue, but the runs that they have made the GTO wins.
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:48 AM   #35
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Oh yeah, i admit that the Camaro is going to be a bigger "Chick" car over the 370Z. But in saying that, i can almost guaranty that the ladies will most likly be driving the V6. I cannot prove that however, and not going to try. The V6 camaro will just be cheaper and most girls don't care about big numbers in there car. Or daddy didn't want to spend nearly $40,000 out the door. :P
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any sporty looking car that comes in automatic is going to be driven by a fair share of females; that includes the 370z
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I will bet you this most of the 370 z drivers will be girls or your preppy boys. Don't get me wrong the 370z is very nice but most guys would prefer muscle.
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I think all the stereotypes in this thread are fricking ridiculous. I think most stereotypes are ridiculous in general. How can you form an opinion of someone based off of what you heard or saw of someone else?

I particularly enjoy getting out of my hick-mobile in a business suit.
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Off-topic but:

The one good thing about the STI is it's too ugly for women and only comes in manual. Although it does seem to atract some punk kids which is annoying.
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I formed my opinion by seeing more chicks and preppy boys in the 350/370z's. I work at a bank and I see lots of people driving lots of vehicles. the eclipse, v6 mustang, 350/370z, mazda rx8, saturn sky, solstice are primarily driven by women. Not saying guys don't drive them. I mean if you like a certain car get it myself i don't care what people think and if i wanted one of those cars i would get one. I am just saying the camaro, and challenger you will see primarily driven buy men. Would you agree??? So far all the delivery's on this website have been delivered to men with the exception of 1.
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In the real world a friend of mine has a '06 GTO that is stock except for a diablo sport tune. His car is faster than his friend's 370Z.
Could be a driver issue, but the runs that they have made the GTO wins.
My guess is that your friend has had years to figure out how to drive the GTO to its full potential... give the Z some time.
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My guess is that your friend has had years to figure out how to drive the GTO to its full potential... give the Z some time.
06 GTO is a low 13 car. They should be pretty close honestly in a Drag race. Assuming that is what they are doing.....
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06 GTO is a low 13 car. They should be pretty close honestly in a Drag race. Assuming that is what they are doing.....


+1 so for the GTO to beat it every time is more likely than not a drivers race
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Stock for stock, a 2009 Cobalt SS is faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile than the 350Z for $10,000 less!
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Stock for stock, a 2009 Cobalt SS is faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile than the 350Z for $10,000 less!
And a Cobalt SS will get raped by a used STi for 5k less than that.
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Vq?



im not following
VQ is the V6 Nissan uses in almost all its cars, including the new 370Z

Its got no low end power, and its harsh and rough in the higher rev's. Just read any review of the 350/370Z and you'll hear them criticize the car for that. Its also one of the worst sounding engines ever designed.

For $37K I'd expect to get a real motor, not some pile of crap out of a Nissan Maxima.
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And a Cobalt SS will get raped by a used STi for 5k less than that.
Actually it won't.

The Cobalt SS is equal to or better than the STI in every category.

Skidpad:

STi: .90g
Cobalt SS: .92g

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STi: 166ft
Cobalt SS: 163ft

Cobalt SS Turbo

Subaru WRX STi

The Cobalt SS is also just as fast or faster than the STI in 1/4 mile trap speed, the Cobalt SS has hit 104MPH in the 1/4, rarely will an STI be able to pull those numbers. The Cobalt SS also beat the Mitsubishi Evolution MR around VIR at C&D's annual lightning lap.

Did I also mention the Cobalt is $10,000 cheaper, gets 10MPG more, and looks much more classy??
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Actually it won't.

The Cobalt SS is equal to or better than the STI in every category.

Skidpad:

STi: .90g
Cobalt SS: .92g

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STi: 166ft
Cobalt SS: 163ft

Cobalt SS Turbo

Subaru WRX STi

The Cobalt SS is also just as fast or faster than the STI in 1/4 mile trap speed, the Cobalt SS has hit 104MPH in the 1/4, rarely will an STI be able to pull those numbers. The Cobalt SS also beat the Mitsubishi Evolution MR around VIR at C&D's annual lightning lap.

Did I also mention the Cobalt is $10,000 cheaper, gets 10MPG more, and looks much more classy??






Seriously? 2003 sti?



Why dont you wise up and compare it to the 2007. BTW i like your edited performance categories that dont include slalom speed, 0-60 or track times.
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Old 04-28-2009, 09:15 PM   #49
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Fun Fact....

Stock for stock, a 2009 Cobalt SS is faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile than the 350Z for $10,000 less!
Fun Fact, no, it's not. It's faster than the pre 2007-2008 350z models, but the newer ones averages a 13.6 quarter mile and 0-60 in 5.1-5.2 seconds, with more than a handful hitting 13.1x's . Show me a stock 09 Cobalt SS doing better than that in the quarter mile and I'll believe you.
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VQ is the V6 Nissan uses in almost all its cars, including the new 370Z

Its got no low end power, and its harsh and rough in the higher rev's. Just read any review of the 350/370Z and you'll hear them criticize the car for that. Its also one of the worst sounding engines ever designed.

For $37K I'd expect to get a real motor, not some pile of crap out of a Nissan Maxima.

Calling the VQ a pile of crap is a real stretch. It's mad the Ward's 10 best engines list every year the list has been done. Now it is true that a lot of Nissans and Infinitis have engines with the name "VQ35" but trust me, they are not the same. Nissan just likes to confuse people by naming all the engines the same, probably so they can say its the #1 selling engine. Only some reviews say the VQ37 is harsh up top, but its mostly attributed to the exhaust system. And one of the worst sounding engines? It's no pushrod V8, but it is one of the better sound V6 engines out there. But engine sound is subjective anyway

BTW, although I drive a Z right now I'm not here with the purpose of defending it. I'm awaiting a 2SS.
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