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Old 01-04-2012, 08:19 PM   #76
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Nathan How would you like a all expenses paid trip to the D? All you gotta do is everything your doing to your camaro. Do it to mine lol
Sounds great! It might get pretty expensive because I eat a lot, LOL.

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Looks amazing and like a project I would also like to do. I need to do some inexpensive mods for a change.
Eric, the biggest challenge is the time to figure everything out as you go. I can now do all I've done in one fourth the time.
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:54 PM   #77
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OK, first thing this morning was removing the intake.



Next came removing the rest of the harness on the driver's side. In addition to feeding the injectors and coils, there are three additional connections. One is for the oxygen sensor, the next is for a ground connection, and the last one is for the oil pressure sender.

The toughest part was removing the bolt that holds the ground simply because of the awkward position.



So I recruited my brother.



Three hands weren't going to do it, we needed all four!



Something told me it probably wasn't a good idea. Dang, that hurt!



So I figure I'd try a new approach.



And finally with much persuasion......Who's Da Man

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Old 01-04-2012, 09:02 PM   #78
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Next came splitting up the Harness.



This gives you an idea of the mess.



I spent a lot of time just undoing the shitty taping that came from factory.



Next, I laid the harness over to see how far the wires reach.



To clean up the mess. I taped the Oxygen sensor, and Oil pressure sender wires separately as if creating a harness for each component. Also there was enough wire to run the through the back of the engine.

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Old 01-04-2012, 09:19 PM   #79
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In this picture, you can see were I removed the ground cable. It will be relocated to the drivers side. I how I ran the tape all the was to the mother nest.



To install the driver side coil pack I had to disconnect the hose that goes into the radiator hose and push it aside. To say that drilling that hose was a challenge would be a euphemism.



I was such a that I forgot to take pictures.

I was able to split the harness that feeds the coil pack and run it under the bottom of the engine along the cross mender. Sorry no pictures. There's a harness that runs along the cross-member from factory and I fallowed the same path. End results. It's now INVISIBLE!

I dropped the intake to get a feel on how I would do the drivers side harness. The only wires I have running are the ones that feed the altinator which are east to reroute. I'm going to leave that as a separate project once I'm done with the coils and fuel rails. I did finish rapping them and tuck them were you could barely see them on the passenger side.

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Old 01-04-2012, 09:24 PM   #80
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This picture gives you a better idea of the fuel injector harness is now running out the back.



I set the driver side fuel harness so that I can start measuring.



Here's a sample pic of extending the wires.



That's all for today. As ta manana.
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:44 PM   #81
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:46 PM   #82
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holy poop Nathan, that engine bay looks amazing. Any chance you want to do mine? I can't give you a trip to the D, but I'll give you 5,000 internets.
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Nice work, really makes me want to clean up my engine bay!
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Why solder instead of using a Butt Splice connector?
I see a lot of people soldering then putting heat rap/shrink over it vs using a butt splice connector with heat rap/shrink.
Benefit over the other?
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:06 PM   #85
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Why solder instead of using a Butt Splice connector?
I see a lot of people soldering then putting heat rap/shrink over it vs using a butt splice connector with heat rap/shrink.
Benefit over the other?
From what I understand:

Soldering:
~better connection
~less expensive

Butt Splice connectors:
~faster to connect
~more expensive

Here's a good site for info: http://www.mmxpress.com/technical/connections.htm
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:28 PM   #86
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Almost forgot, here's some stuff that came in today. The three big tube are shrink rap, if you believe that. I will be using those as I progress. Purchased 10ft. of braided nylon rapping. You could see in one of the pics, one of the application I will be using it, ground battery cable. The three smaller piece are sample of different sizes I will be testing.





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Why solder instead of using a Butt Splice connector?
I see a lot of people soldering then putting heat rap/shrink over it vs using a butt splice connector with heat rap/shrink.
Benefit over the other?
Soldering is the right way to do it. It is the preferred splice method except for in marine environements, then butt splice connectors are preferred.
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Hey, I've seen some of those mods before...

Nathan, you're doing a great job documenting the process...keep up the good work!
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Why solder instead of using a Butt Splice connector?
I see a lot of people soldering then putting heat rap/shrink over it vs using a butt splice connector with heat rap/shrink.
Benefit over the other?
A butt splice connector is too bulky. Soldering and shrink wrapping is a better connection and way more compact.
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From what I understand:

Soldering:
~better connection
~less expensive

Butt Splice connectors:
~faster to connect
~more expensive

Here's a good site for info: http://www.mmxpress.com/technical/connections.htm
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Soldering is the right way to do it. It is the preferred splice method except for in marine environements, then butt splice connectors are preferred.
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A butt splice connector is too bulky. soldering and shrink wrapping is a better connection and way more compact.
Thanks guys, good to know
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Relocate your map sensor to the back of the intake. I did that on mind. Something I dont think anyone ever notices.
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Relocate your map sensor to the back of the intake. I did that on mind. Something I dont think anyone ever notices.
Details, pictures. Please!
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Details, pictures. Please!
Here goes mine again it's on first page. No map on the front. Coils moved smooth stock valve covers.








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Had a pretty productive day..... all things consider. Sometime it seems like the car is fitting me all the way!

I was able to finish the drivers side harness. Just a heads up but, the connectors are not going to stay that way. Me no liky the rainbow of colors; gray, green and blue, yuk! Actually I'm redoing the hole thing. Right now, I just want to get the car on the road again. Once I'm done with the bulk of the work, I go back and redo some stuff. I'll be ordering new connectors, braided steel tubing for the wires, etc..... and do something nicer. But thats getting ahead of myself.



Once I had the harness completed, I could now focus on tidying up the wires. I used zip tides for the job.



To tuck the harness out of the way, I first disconnected the ABS harness plug. This allowed me to pull the harness over the plug and into the cavity behind the heat shield. I also removed the bolt holding the shield and pulled it forward.



Once I tuck it in there, I reinstalled the plug and bolted for the heat shield.



For the moment, I used some of the flexible nylon tubing from Home D to hide the wires. I have some of this stuff coming from Summit that's nicer.



Also got the ground cable relocated to the drivers side.



I was able to hide the EVAC solenoid on the inside of the bracket that holds the fuse box. The ARP bolt in the picture is what holding the solenoid bracket. The harness running to it is no longer visible. The hose that run from the solenoid to the intake now runs down the bottom and through the space between the water pump and engine block. It come out the top and plugs in. Sorry I don't have more detail pictures but my helper/ photographer/brother wasn't around today.



On the agenda for now is just cutting the plug wires to size.

I'll be on hold waiting for parts.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:46 AM   #95
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Nathan, Just wanted to ask you what you are using for fuel rails? I thought about using some BBK rails, but I wasn't sure if I could turn them 180 to relocate the fuel line.Thanks,Tt--
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Nathan, Just wanted to ask you what you are using for fuel rails? I thought about using some BBK rails, but I wasn't sure if I could turn them 180 to relocate the fuel line.Thanks,Tt--
Yes you can turn the BBK fuel rails I have them turned on mine.

Also heres a couple of things some of you guys might like, I found this these while ordering some other stuff I'll be ordering one or the other or maybe a combo of both if I can..
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:16 AM   #99
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Nathan, Just wanted to ask you what you are using for fuel rails? I thought about using some BBK rails, but I wasn't sure if I could turn them 180 to relocate the fuel line.Thanks,Tt--
Before you do anything, you might want to wait till you see what I'm doing with my fuel lines. I will be prototyping a set-up for TechAFX which is going to be really clean looking. I should have the parts next week.

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Damn man this is turning out great.
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Hey, I've seen some of those mods before...

Nathan, you're doing a great job documenting the process...keep up the good work!
Your car has definitely been an inspiration. Can't thank you enough for all your help!
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Your engine bay is looking good.

Looks very similar to Kilo-9's. He's done a great job with his. He has a meticulous attention to detail!!
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