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Old 01-20-2012, 12:03 PM   #18
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I keep reading all these post about the muscle car era. It seems to me a lot of folks forget half of what fueled that era of time. There was a social attitude then that we don't have now. There was a revolution going on, and doing everything " the man " didn't want you to do. Now there is more of a social rest and correctness everyone seems to abide by... IMO
Say what??? Watch the news it'll change your mind.
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:08 PM   #19
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Why does every bring up the Charger when comparing the camaro or mustang. It's a four door family car. Might as well compare the 300 to the camaro too while your at it.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:14 PM   #20
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The super bee's will be every bit of 50k, they are an upgrade to the SRT8 package, not an in between model.
I read that the Super Bee has less content that the normal SRT8. I think they are looking for it to be cheaper and weigh slightly less. Even so it's a boat and not comparable to what we are looking for in a Z28. But that boat might do well on the track with the 2012 upgrades. A 2012 SRT8 can now keep up with a stock Camaro SS on the track. A nice trick for such a big car.
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:10 PM   #21
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I keep reading all these post about the muscle car era. It seems to me a lot of folks forget half of what fueled that era of time. There was a social attitude then that we don't have now. There was a revolution going on, and doing everything " the man " didn't want you to do. Now there is more of a social rest and correctness everyone seems to abide by... IMO
Here's a song from back in that time...
"There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind

It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and they carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side

It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
You better Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
You better Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
You better Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down"


"For What It's Worth" - Buffalo Springfield (1967)

Here's another song that is even more noteworthy in my opinion.

Written by Bob Dylan

Crimson flames tied through my years,
rollin' high and mighty trapped.
Countless violent flaming roads,
using ideas as my maps.
“We'll meet on edges soon” said I,
proud 'neath heated brow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth,
“rip down all hate” I screamed.
Lies that life is black and white,
spoke from my skull I dreamed.
Romantic flanks of musketeers,
foundation deep, somehow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

In a soldier's stance I aimed my hand,
at the mongrel dogs who teach.
Fearing not I'd become my enemy,
in the instant that I preach.
Sisters fled by confusion boats,
Mutiny, from stern to bow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

My guard stood hard when abstract threats,
too noble to neglect.
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect.
Good and bad, I define these terms,
quite clear, no doubt, somehow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

“My Back Pages” - The Byrds (1967)

This beautiful song, is amongst the best lyrical song ever written during this tumultuous time period which crosses the civil rights, activist movement and the “hippie” counter culture movement.


And, here is the polar opposite to social unrest and upheavel during that period...


LOL...strange days indeed, what a cultural revolution.
"Don't trust anyone over 30" - 1960's activist phrase
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:36 PM   #22
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http://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/ch...rrives-in-2014

Interesting information.
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Old 01-22-2012, 11:29 PM   #23
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:48 AM   #24
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Wouldnt mind a superbee
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:13 PM   #25
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I found the Z28. I'm diggin' the black one.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195466
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:12 AM   #26
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Umm... That SuperBee is a special edition and pricing will be more than the regular SRT8, my SRT8's MSRP was 49k, so that car would be somewhere around 52k for the special package.
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:26 PM   #27
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I thought the yellow jacket Challenger was more and the Super Bee Charger was less than the top in their models.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:40 PM   #28
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Challenger YJ 52K
Charger SB 43K

These are just the starting MSRP.

You can go on to Dodge.com to see the prices.
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:38 AM   #29
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....ummm, a Z28 maybe........please...pretty please....

.....BINGO....
Why would anyone want a Z28 when ....we got a ZL1
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:38 AM   #30
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Why would anyone want a Z28 when ....we got a ZL1
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Old 01-29-2012, 12:22 PM   #31
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Why would anyone want a Z28 when ....we got a ZL1
...why.....it's an age old question....., and often unanswered fully, but I'll try.....because when I bought my Z-28....I fell in love at hello.........and have been ever since.
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I like what Dodge has done with the Challenger and Charger.
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:07 PM   #34
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2012 Dodge Charger Super Bee.
470 HP - 1/4 mile 12.8 secs.
Base price should fall between the 2012 Charger SRT8 and 2012 Dodge Charger R/T. Thinking 42K,


2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302
444 hp- 1/4 mile 12.4 secs.
Base Price 40,995


Keep the faith,

Wow...12.4 times running regular gas and still getting good gas mileage.
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