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Old 01-31-2012, 09:56 PM   #171
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Exhaust video is finally done!!

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Old 02-01-2012, 07:35 AM   #172
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Sounds good JT........Real Good.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:41 AM   #173
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I agree! Sounds mean.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:21 PM   #174
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I agree! Sounds mean.
Thanks guys!

I really like it.....now for a stage 2 cam in a year.
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:46 PM   #175
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sounds good JT wonder about a cam my self lol
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:23 AM   #176
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Oh go get one now JT and quit whining......



and while your at it just do the cutouts as well.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:15 AM   #177
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I wouldn't mind a stage II cam, but I need 4 of them. A bit shorter than youz guyzes as well
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:40 AM   #178
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I wouldn't mind a stage II cam, but I need 4 of them. A bit shorter than youz guyzes as well
Twins.......just sayin
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:54 AM   #179
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Nah, not for me. For that coin I'd add 15k to it and have a used SS. Another 4k and I'd be at Vengeance. that makes more sense to me.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:26 PM   #180
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sounds good JT wonder about a cam my self lol
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Oh go get one now JT and quit whining......



and while your at it just do the cutouts as well.
How much do Cams run (installed)? I see on websites that some comp cams are like $300-$500 but then I see people talking about cams costing about $3000 after its all said and done. Is that because they have a L99 and have to do the LS3 conversion? Or is that cost including hardened pushrods and what not?

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Nah, not for me. For that coin I'd add 15k to it and have a used SS. Another 4k and I'd be at Vengeance. that makes more sense to me.
See, that was what I thought. I rather spend the money and pick up a SS...then you can take the horsepower up and up...where as once you turbo a V6...I think you're pretty much at your HP limit.... (I think)




Oh, I think I need to re name my thread......its the JT, John, and Norm thread.... Maybe in 3 years when I throw a blower on it more people will stop by....
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:43 PM   #181
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How much do Cams run (installed)? I see on websites that some comp cams are like $300-$500 but then I see people talking about cams costing about $3000 after its all said and done. Is that because they have a L99 and have to do the LS3 conversion? Or is that cost including hardened pushrods and what not?

JT...

Cost of doing cam swaps.......lemme see if I can explain

Yes cams are around 400.00 but that is not the only thing you NEED to change when doing this.

When Vengeance did mine they added an under drive pulley for more power...not needed but recommended.
They also change the stock oil pump with a Melling High Volume oil pump, again not needed but recommended.......after months of owing the cam swap many people started having problems with the stock oil pump failing and melting their motors...well if you cam swapped you were out of luck since you modded and warranty was gone.....so really this is a need a s well.

Then you have to change the valve springs because of the increase lift...basically stronger springs.

Have to have hardened pushrods, again for strength. Trunion upgrades...these are little parts that go on the lifters.

Since you are cracking the motor you will need to do a fluid change...don't have to but a great idea. New plugs to ensure your car is tuned properly.

You will need a tune plus some dyno time since each car is differently.

I also did a hose relocation kit to clean up the engine bay plus a few more things.

I can't remember exactly what it cost but all this increased power requires other things as well to include a CAI...more air in...and the headers ...for more air out.

Plus labor to install all of it. I have no clue what all has to come off to install a cam.

Hopefully this gives you some idea of what is kinda needed to swap cams.

The good thing about Ron @ Vengeance is they have done so many they know exactly what they need, plus the fact they only deal with LS motors so they kinda specialize in this area. If you shhot Ron an e-mail he can tell you exactly what he recommends on a cam swap and kinda give you an idea of cost...that way you know what you are looking at......I will say that Ron was great to work with on this.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:45 PM   #182
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Oh, I think I need to re name my thread......its the JT, John, and Norm thread.... Maybe in 3 years when I throw a blower on it more people will stop by....
LMAO....you seen Dr Jkels thread lately......aint getting no love since I am working on Mr Hyde so much..........but as they always tell me this aint facebook and at least I know the Real Friends are REAL....

Funny thing... I met someone at the ballpark and heard them talking about facebook and they were so mad that someone would become their friend......what a JOKE>
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:12 PM   #183
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JT...

Cost of doing cam swaps.......lemme see if I can explain

Yes cams are around 400.00 but that is not the only thing you NEED to change when doing this.

When Vengeance did mine they added an under drive pulley for more power...not needed but recommended.
They also change the stock oil pump with a Melling High Volume oil pump, again not needed but recommended.......after months of owing the cam swap many people started having problems with the stock oil pump failing and melting their motors...well if you cam swapped you were out of luck since you modded and warranty was gone.....so really this is a need a s well.

Then you have to change the valve springs because of the increase lift...basically stronger springs.

Have to have hardened pushrods, again for strength. Trunion upgrades...these are little parts that go on the lifters.

Since you are cracking the motor you will need to do a fluid change...don't have to but a great idea. New plugs to ensure your car is tuned properly.

You will need a tune plus some dyno time since each car is differently.

I also did a hose relocation kit to clean up the engine bay plus a few more things.

I can't remember exactly what it cost but all this increased power requires other things as well to include a CAI...more air in...and the headers ...for more air out.

Plus labor to install all of it. I have no clue what all has to come off to install a cam.

Hopefully this gives you some idea of what is kinda needed to swap cams.

The good thing about Ron @ Vengeance is they have done so many they know exactly what they need, plus the fact they only deal with LS motors so they kinda specialize in this area. If you shhot Ron an e-mail he can tell you exactly what he recommends on a cam swap and kinda give you an idea of cost...that way you know what you are looking at......I will say that Ron was great to work with on this.

Great explanation. I knew it was going to have something to do with upgrading certain parts of the engine and what not. I know whatever I do to my car it won't be going the cheap route...especially if the mod is going to void a major part of my warranty.

I wish I had an endless supply of money (as I'm sure does everyone)..... there is so much I wanna do. I want to be that car at shows that people wanna go look at.

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LMAO....you seen Dr Jkels thread lately......aint getting no love since I am working on Mr Hyde so much..........but as they always tell me this aint facebook and at least I know the Real Friends are REAL....

Funny thing... I met someone at the ballpark and heard them talking about facebook and they were so mad that someone would become their friend......what a JOKE>
Yeah, I don't get wrapped up in who is my "friend" on facebook. I got the main people I want to talk to...and the others well whatever.

I got you and norms back like a sweater.
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:22 PM   #184
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And Kevin@Vengeance has a thread in the sponsor section "engine internals". You can get everything for the cam swap (and I mean everything needed) for 1300 bucks. So you can see that the labor and tuning and fluids run considerably more.

If it were me, and I had the cash, I would do the Vengeance swap they advertise that comes with the ARH long tube headers, cam of your choice, and them doing the work. I believe that was around 4-5k.

Shit, that's John's set up I think!!!!
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:27 PM   #185
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LOL....I dont do facebook...guess I am old. Lmao...Hell I just got into texting because no one talks anymore


If it were me I would get cut outs FIRST...may save you a bunch of money in the long run...The LS# has a pretty good cam but you can't hear it, with cutouts you can.

Cams are great in that they give you rumble and added power...The car is fast enough for me stock, just wanted a sound...I paid alot of money for sound.

I have all the upgraded suspension work in sways, sprigns trailing arms etc...and mine handles really good but I dont race it or Auto X it so it is more of a look, stance for me.

For me mine wasn't a DD and it didnt really matter since I kinda baby it.....Dont know if I had a modded if it was...just changed the exhaust for a little better sound.

Your a smart guy and will do the right thing I know......
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See if I had it to do over agin I would go bargain shopping...you can get headers on here all the time cheaper than retail from people changing their builds....DE sold here headers since she went TT and I know hers were nice...if you plan this out you can save some pennies.

CAI are about 350.00ish new
Headers are from 1200 to 1800 new

These are areas you can save some coin. You can actually install the headers yourself...just takes time and a place to do it.......and a few wrenches....
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See if I had it to do over agin I would go bargain shopping...you can get headers on here all the time cheaper than retail from people changing their builds....DE sold here headers since she went TT and I know hers were nice...if you plan this out you can save some pennies.

CAI are about 350.00ish new
Headers are from 1200 to 1800 new

These are areas you can save some coin. You can actually install the headers yourself...just takes time and a place to do it.......and a few wrenches....


Plus 426 off the showroom floor ain't too bad to begin with.
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