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Old 02-19-2012, 06:54 PM   #26
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I know what it is, but what I am saying is if someone puts their feet up on the dash or sets something on it the down ward pressure and the movement of the seam can cause it to crack open. So to say it has NOTHING to do with pressure on the dash... is not true. It could very well be. It certainly would not help the problem. Plus it may have to do with extreme hot to cold weather variations where you live perhaps? It's fairly mild where I live. It gets hot and it freezes but not to extremes or very often.
I wasn't saying that the weight or pressure wouldn't do it, but just based on the photos on here and what people are saying, I would venture to say that its a product problem... considering the crack is identical in all the pics and what people are describing. I'm mostly upset by the fact that both my cars are beyond the 36k mile warranty and now I have to live with a 2010 model car with a 1979 looking dash in it.... unacceptable.
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:26 PM   #27
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I wasn't saying that the weight or pressure wouldn't do it, but just based on the photos on here and what people are saying, I would venture to say that its a product problem... considering the crack is identical in all the pics and what people are describing. I'm mostly upset by the fact that both my cars are beyond the 36k mile warranty and now I have to live with a 2010 model car with a 1979 looking dash in it.... unacceptable.
Gotcha! I checked and mine is fine! thankfully!
Yeah you can tell it's right along the air bag break away that's obvious.
I'd go with the new dash with the suede on it personally. If I had to replace mine, and install the HUD too. I feel you pain though that sucks to be beyond your warranty, I thought it was a 60k warranty though?
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:54 PM   #28
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Well I just got back from Classic to take care of other things. The first time I told them about this they just denied being able to see what I was talking about (most likely because they don't want to do anything about it). This time I took it in to show the service manager what they did to it the last time (long story), and the shop foreman came out and talked to me as well and definitely noticed it and told me that he would look into the issue. I won't have it fixed at Classic ever again, but it's nice to know not everyone thinks I'm crazy.
Ugggg, there goes another Tx dealer. I also dont like Reliable. They pull the same garbage; can't see, smell, feel, what you are feeling. They actually had the nerve to tell me it was just me getting used to a new car, like I was somehow mesmerized by a new car from them. I buy a car every couple of years. The experience does not impress me,
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:07 PM   #29
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If that was my car, I'd just get a 2012 dash and go ahead and install the HUD. Hahaha I'd have an excuse to upgrade.. lol

Pulling the dash board is actually pretty easy. You could probably do the job in 3 hours.. get ahold of Ofer... 2SS/RS.. He's the man you would need to talk to. Nice guy, knows all about the Camaro.
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:00 PM   #30
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I agree with all the above sentiments. I'm not willing to have the dash taken apart yet because the crack isn't even as big as stikSS's split. However, NO ONE ever rides with me that would even dream of putting their feet on the dash. There's never been anything besides a sheet of paper sitting on that dashboard, and that crack is still showing up. I think it's probably more to do with the temperature changes. When I get into a car on a 100+ degree day, then crank the A/C it's definitely not helping. I'm going to have to go to the dealer for another reason soon anyway, so if no one tells me different I'll be making a trip to Van to get this on the record.
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:55 PM   #31
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Im glad to see others have this issue too. I noticed mine today. My crack is almost the entire left side of the airbag opening. Looks like I will be off to the dealer this week. Grrrr...
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:06 PM   #32
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New dash is in, going to the dlr in the am for a output shaft seal in the tranny and the dash replacement. I hope it goes well with my baby!

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Old 02-19-2012, 11:32 PM   #33
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Keep us all posted. I'm interested to see how quickly they can do a dash install, and whether or not the issue is present on the new one.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:00 AM   #34
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I hope the both of you get this all taken care of by your respective dealers. If you continue to have issues with your dealers resolving this for you let me know. I'll do what I can to take care of this for you.

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Old 02-21-2012, 09:29 AM   #35
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I hope the both of you get this all taken care of by your respective dealers. If you continue to have issues with your dealers resolving this for you let me know. I'll do what I can to take care of this for you.

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Thanks Jeff. Have you heard or do you know if this has been a topic for a future recall/TSB? It looks like the dealers are gonna start getting busy with this issue
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:05 AM   #36
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Thats just a GM problem, especially in the south. Both my 4th gens are cracked, my 95 spent most of its life outside so its expected, my 96 has spent most of its life in the garage and is broken like a dropped miror. My 07 Avalanche cracked last summer (sleeps outside 90% of the time), we always use the windshield shade but with the last summers heat here in Texas is finally cracked at the corner of the passenger side airbag. I used my heat gun and the inside of the truck and dash were north of 160 at times. I have seen this in many other GMT900 trucks as well.

I guess I should also add that its not only GM, I have seen it in Acuras, Toyotas etc as well just never as soon as it happens in GM vehicles.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:12 AM   #37
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Thats just a GM problem, especially in the south. Both my 4th gens are cracked, my 95 spent most of its life outside so its expected, my 96 has spent most of its life in the garage and is broken like a dropped miror. My 07 Avalanche cracked last summer (sleeps outside 90% of the time), we always use the windshield shade but with the last summers heat here in Texas is finally cracked at the corner of the passenger side airbag. I used my heat gun and the inside of the truck and dash were north of 160 at times. I have seen this in many other GMT900 trucks as well.

I guess I should also add that its not only GM, I have seen it in Acuras, Toyotas etc as well just never as soon as it happens in GM vehicles.

Nah, my 04 Silverado has spent its entire life outdoors and my dash still looks like new (knock on wood).
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stikSS, so far nothing has come through on this. Hopefully these are isolated incidents and we can get things taken care of. I'll let you all know if I ever find anything on this.

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Old 02-21-2012, 02:23 PM   #39
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It does appear that I started something here. What makes me reluctant to even try a new dash is not knowing whether this could be just a bad batch or if a new one will do the same thing in another couple of years. I'm going to go ahead and get this on record being that I'm not too far from the end of my warranty, but I'm definitely going to hold off on a new dash for as long as I can.

Can someone clarify this part for me? Is the dash in two pieces? Could the upper part be replaced without taking the entire dash apart? I'd be much more willing to give it a try if this was the case.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:19 PM   #40
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It does appear that I started something here. What makes me reluctant to even try a new dash is not knowing whether this could be just a bad batch or if a new one will do the same thing in another couple of years. I'm going to go ahead and get this on record being that I'm not too far from the end of my warranty, but I'm definitely going to hold off on a new dash for as long as I can.

Can someone clarify this part for me? Is the dash in two pieces? Could the upper part be replaced without taking the entire dash apart? I'd be much more willing to give it a try if this was the case.
my dash is done, its all one piece from what the service advisor told me.
He then drove it to insure its not ratteling or making any noise at all. The other issue of a rear output shaft seal leaking makes me more nervous than the dash, he tole me that they are going to replace the output housing instead of just the seal. I do not understand but he told me that the bulletin stated to replace the whole housing and not just the seal. The engine oil leak he could not find where the source of the leak came from so they dyed the oil and will look with a black light to see if it shows, should be done tomorrow afternoon. I will post on my personal thoughts on the dash replacement. Ron Tilley
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:14 PM   #41
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Well it sucks to hear that a new dash is a full replacement, but it's good to know that he ensured they did it to the best of quality. I wish I could find a dealer around here that had the same attitude, but they're all huge guys who go through "140-200 cars a day" and they could care less about one person's car being messed up.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:33 PM   #42
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Oh man so I was looking at my dash again today and the light hit just right, and I could see where the seam was worn more in the same area (as in the photos) than others. Meaning right in the middle of the left side. but no where else, crazy. It's not cracked yet after 2.5 years but it looks like it is close...
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:29 PM   #43
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I can't imagine GM not being aware of this already... unless there hasn't been enough inquiry yet?.. I guess as people start to near that magical 36k number it'll show up!! I hope to see a TSB on it. My driverside seat heating element went out a while back and the dealer called me yesterday to bring in my car, but I forgot to ask him about it, but i will when i take it in. My car has 36,124 miles on it!?.. that i think is the worst part of it.. knowing i'm 124 miles over and they can certainly deny it.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:18 PM   #44
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we noticed it some time ago, but waited to see if it got worse, but it did. This dealership and service advisor have been great to me, from the start of the purchase to this point. I hope to get this feeling anytime that I go there. I did purchase the extended gm warranty but hope not to use it. ROn Tilley
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:48 AM   #45
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I don't have this on my dash (yet) but I do have it on my horn housing. Take a look right under the "CAMARO", I'd bet most will see it there as well.
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:57 PM   #46
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thats my crack exactly on the dash. i have always seen the airbag pattern on the horn but no cracks there, knock on wood.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:29 PM   #47
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Can someone clarify this part for me? Is the dash in two pieces? Could the upper part be replaced without taking the entire dash apart? I'd be much more willing to give it a try if this was the case.
I can its a 1 pc dash and i have don mor then 12 cars removing and installing dash's.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:53 PM   #48
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I got my car back from the dealership today, it is done perfectly, no rattles,squeeks or any other sounds, They had somewhat of a difficult time removing the radio face plate, and it had to be replaced, but the new one from the factory also had a chip in it so another is on order again. I am very happy, they cleaned and detailed the inside and outside, did not have to, but they did. Oil leak fixed as well. Our dealer is a small town dealer and puts the customer first, great job, Garvin Motors!



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Old 02-28-2012, 12:22 AM   #49
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Just a quick note on the vehicle warrenty. My dealer has told me that the 36000 mile warrenty starts from the odometer reading of the vehicle at initial purchase. ,Example... If your car had 75 miles on the odometer when you bought it the warrent doesnt run out untill 36,075 miles. Not positive but that is what my crooked azz delearship has told me so its probly legit.
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Just a quick note on the vehicle warrenty. My dealer has told me that the 36000 mile warrenty starts from the odometer reading of the vehicle at initial purchase. ,Example... If your car had 75 miles on the odometer when you bought it the warrent doesnt run out untill 36,075 miles. Not positive but that is what my crooked azz delearship has told me so its probly legit.

That is correct, my warranty paperwork states 36,031.
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