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Old 12-23-2011, 04:20 PM   #1
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Black Car, need help but look at that reflection!

Good afternoon and Happy Holidays C5 family! So since I’ve been off for Christmas break, I decided to give Caroline some much needed and much deserved attention. Before it started getting cold, I noticed some white specks all over my BLACK car. Since I watch The Junkman’s videos, I knew I needed to clay bar my car. I messaged the Junkman, and he told me the white specks sounded like I was using cheap wax… problem is I have never waxed before. So what else do y’all think it could be?
Based on what I have read in other threads, lots of people here suggested the mothers clay bar, so I headed on down to AutoZone. After I clayed for about 2 and a half hours the car still has white specks all over it, but it is better. Before the car felt like sandpaper, now it feels like dirty glass (which is an improvement to me). Just for reference I used the mother California Gold clay bar and both show time and Meguiar’s detail sprays.
But hold up! This thread isn’t just to ask questions, I also wanted to show off my progress a bit. After claying the car I applied a thin layer of Meguiar’s NXT gen Tech wax 2.0 to part of the hood. WOW! It looks TONS better, and I didn’t even think my car looked bad to begin with. Hopefully somebody here can give me tips on removing ALL of the white specks.
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Looks good. You'll probably have to polish to get all/most of the imperfections out.
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Old 12-23-2011, 05:07 PM   #4
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The second picture looks awesome!

In my experience, the only time I had white specs like that was when my work decided to spray paint some poles out in the open with nothing to cover up the stray paint particles floating in the air. Do you know if any of your neighbors have painted recently? Better question, can you feel those white specs if you do the baggy test?
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Old 12-23-2011, 05:37 PM   #5
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The second picture looks awesome!

In my experience, the only time I had white specs like that was when my work decided to spray paint some poles out in the open with nothing to cover up the stray paint particles floating in the air. Do you know if any of your neighbors have painted recently? Better question, can you feel those white specs if you do the baggy test?
I agree. Definitely looks like overspray to me. Clay should take it out. It might take a few times to get it done. Of course, you can also machine polish it.

Remember after claying or polishing, you need to re-apply your wax or sealant.


I really don't see wax doing that. Especially if it didn't come off with claying. Which wax were you using before?

I see you're in TX. If you're near Dallas and have any problems, I'd be happy to show you how to take care of it. I've got a polisher and anything else we might need.
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Old 12-23-2011, 05:43 PM   #6
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If your Car is stored outside,it could be almost anything.Especially if you live in an urban (city)area.Someone could be spraying paint blocks away and it could come down on your black car.I would invest in a car cover after you spend all those hours getting the paint back to normal.
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If your Car is stored outside,it could be almost anything.Especially if you live in an urban (city)area.Someone could be spraying paint blocks away and it could come down on your black car.I would invest in a car cover after you spend all those hours getting the paint back to normal.
Except car covers cause more damage than they prevent. Only use a cover if you're storing the car for a long period of time, and only on a completely spotless car.
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Just like mine! Need to do paint correction (polish etc...) to get rid of the swirls. I'm eventually going to get mine repainted, so I just try to keep them at a minimum until then.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:50 PM   #9
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The second picture looks awesome!

Do you know if any of your neighbors have painted recently? Better question, can you feel those white specs if you do the baggy test?
Thank you! I appreciate it but I'm not done yet!

That first question is hard to answer. My car stays in the garage and my neighborhood is small and new. There was a new home built up the street recently so that may be it?

An yes! My car failed the baggy test miserably! It didn't even feel like sand paper it just felt like hard water (which it's not). I should mention that I can catch the specks with a finger nail and they come off.


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Which wax were you using before?

I see you're in TX. If you're near Dallas and have any problems, I'd be happy to show you how to take care of it. I've got a polisher and anything else we might need.
The clay did seem to help a lot, but when the progress seemed to slow down I thought I was doing something wrong. I got 2 80 gram bars and cut one in half incase I dropped it. I will try again with a new piece.

And finally I am just north of Dallas! Help would be awesome. I caught the detailing bug recently (aside from the regular wash before) so I'm a bit new to this.

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Car is stored in a nice warm garage.

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Just like mine!
Though I'm not glad you're having the same problem, I am glad that I'm not alone here.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:53 PM   #10
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Looks good. You'll probably have to polish to get all/most of the imperfections out.
Thank you! It's definitely a work in progress. I still need to learn how to polish but I'm always up for a new skill!
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Hello, I have a question for anyone willing to share. My Camaro is about 5 months old and I wanted to wax it. It is black any suggestions for what product would be the best? thanks!
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Hello, I have a question for anyone willing to share. My Camaro is about 5 months old and I wanted to wax it. It is black any suggestions for what product would be the best? thanks!
Depends: if you are buying OTC stuff, try Meguiars NXT Tech Wax 2.0. If you want to go with a professional line of products, there are many company's out there for waxes. Adam's Polishes, Zaino, etc.
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Thank you! I appreciate it but I'm not done yet!

That first question is hard to answer. My car stays in the garage and my neighborhood is small and new. There was a new home built up the street recently so that may be it?

An yes! My car failed the baggy test miserably! It didn't even feel like sand paper it just felt like hard water (which it's not). I should mention that I can catch the specks with a finger nail and they come off.




The clay did seem to help a lot, but when the progress seemed to slow down I thought I was doing something wrong. I got 2 80 gram bars and cut one in half incase I dropped it. I will try again with a new piece.

And finally I am just north of Dallas! Help would be awesome. I caught the detailing bug recently (aside from the regular wash before) so I'm a bit new to this.


Car is stored in a nice warm garage.



Though I'm not glad you're having the same problem, I am glad that I'm not alone here.
Just send me a pm if you need anything.
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Thank you! I appreciate it but I'm not done yet!

That first question is hard to answer. My car stays in the garage and my neighborhood is small and new. There was a new home built up the street recently so that may be it?

An yes! My car failed the baggy test miserably! It didn't even feel like sand paper it just felt like hard water (which it's not). I should mention that I can catch the specks with a finger nail and they come off....
Yep, that's the same thing that happened when I had overspray on my car. I picked off little white specs just as you had mentioned. Sometimes the paint particles get on trees and when a breeze comes by, those particles float in the air and find a nice home on any shiny Camaro's they find. I'm speaking from experience of course.

It's awesome that you have CamaroDreams close to you to lend a helping hand. If I were in TX, that's the person I would trust with polishing and paint questions.
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I'm going to bump this old thread for advice. My car is in what I consider terrible condition. I realized this when I saw a new black camaro all shined up on my dealers show room, and I remembered how good my car used to look.

Any advice on polishes? I am looking at buying the PC and I really like what I see in chemical guys, but I was wondering if anybody could attest to their validity? Thanks!
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Griots garage third gen, optimum hyper compound/hyper spray, optimum microfiber cutting pad 5.5", LC flat pads 5.5" (orange and white), LC 5.5" backing plate. That is what I would start with if I had to do it all over again.

I haven't used chem guys but they don't have good polishes according to people I trust.
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I'm going to bump this old thread for advice. My car is in what I consider terrible condition. I realized this when I saw a new black camaro all shined up on my dealers show room, and I remembered how good my car used to look.

Any advice on polishes? I am looking at buying the PC and I really like what I see in chemical guys, but I was wondering if anybody could attest to their validity? Thanks!
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Thanks for the comprehensive list! I am going to see where I stand to order by this summer. I'm still a detailing newbie, so I may have some questions for you, but I can't drive around with trashed paint much longer.
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Thanks for the comprehensive list! I am going to see where I stand to order by this summer. I'm still a detailing newbie, so I may have some questions for you, but I can't drive around with trashed paint much longer.
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Any advice on polishes? I am looking at buying the PC and I really like what I see in chemical guys, but I was wondering if anybody could attest to their validity? Thanks!
Haven't used any of their compounds or polishes but they have very good detail spray, shampoos, and waxes. Jury is still out on the Jetseal but it's good so far. Some of their towels are pretty nice too. Just like any company, some of their products work very well while others not so well.
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So I've been through your list about... 800 times just reading and looking at your suggestions. But I had a question.

In August, I will be moving to Wichita Falls to attend Midwester state and for the first time in 2 years of ownership, my car will be sitting outside. My paint is swirled, and far from perfect, but when things start getting dusty I don't want to start doing serious damage.

What is a good wax or sealant that is DURABLE? And I mean seriously durable.

Whatever you can suggest would help!

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So I've been through your list about... 800 times just reading and looking at your suggestions. But I had a question.

In August, I will be moving to Wichita Falls to attend Midwester state and for the first time in 2 years of ownership, my car will be sitting outside. My paint is swirled, and far from perfect, but when things start getting dusty I don't want to start doing serious damage.

What is a good wax or sealant that is DURABLE? And I mean seriously durable.

Whatever you can suggest would help!

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Listen to CD - if you want to get a flawless finish and SUPER durable, it's a simple 3 step process:
1. clay as you have above
2. Use a random orbital with a white pad and meguire's 205 Ultra finishing polish. ( If really swirled, Meg's 105 first with a orange pad)
3. Two coats of Collinite 845, 12 hours apart - the most durable sealant I know of.
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Also, I need something for my dash. I have no idea why, but my dash is tacky to the touch and holds lint and dust like crazy. It never looks clean. What is wrong and what should I do?
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