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Old 04-19-2009, 04:40 PM   #1
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LS with LSA motor

ls is $23k
LSA crate motor is $14,500.00
upgrade suspension and maybe a supercharger and i am gonna blow those ss's off the road.

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but you wont have any of the extra's
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extras? like sounds system and sunroof extras? i dont want that crap

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extras? like sounds system and sunroof extras? i dont want that crap
how about the upgraded suspension and brakes...... big motor isnt everything... watch out for the outside wall in turn one....
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my original post i said i was already going to upgrade the suspension. and brakes is a must for even the SS. those brembos are crap

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extras? like sounds system and sunroof extras? i dont want that crap
Nvm... Just do it then
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my original post i said i was already going to upgrade the suspension. and brakes is a must for even the SS. those brembos are shit.
My bad on the suspension..... Brembos are $hi! huh......ok Im done with this one already....Good Luck!

By the way add suspension into that and your already at a price of a SS.....
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transmisson would definately need an upgrade. good point
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my original post i said i was already going to upgrade the suspension. and brakes is a must for even the SS. those brembos are shit.
Could you explain your "brembos are s**t" comment?
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the "extras" list is way too long to name them all...

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ls is $23k
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upgrade suspension and maybe a supercharger and i am gonna blow those ss's off the road.
One more little tid bit for ya..... your at 37000 without any suspension or super charger...

1ss is 31000. Thats 6 grand to upgrade their motor and aything else..... more if ya throw in the cost of you upgrading suspension, throwing in a supercharger, oh and replacing the "$hi! brembos"......

I dont think you thought this one all the way through.......
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One more little tid bit for ya..... your at 37000 without any suspension or super charger...

1ss is 31000. Thats 6 grand to upgrade their motor and aything else..... more if ya throw in the cost of you upgrading suspension, throwing in a supercharger, oh and replacing the "$hi! brembos"......

I dont think you thought this one all the way through.......
plus the time it takes to install all of that stuff... looks like 100's of hours of install and troubleshooting time... and the headaches

let GM engineer the car... the guys at the mom and pop shop wont even come close.
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not Brembo is general. the models being installed on the SS. you can easily upgrade
It stops a Camaro 60-0 in 105 feet..... thats pretty damn good
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not Brembo is general. the models being installed on the SS. you can easily upgrade
What's all that bad about them stock? Yeah they can be upgraded, but so can anything else... why are the Brembos on the SS all that bad? I'm not understanding your logic at all?

And why not just get a 1SS and throw a SC on it? All together, it would end up costing about the same in the end (not counting brakes, wheels, and suspension upgrades).... wouldn't it?

I'm not trying to be synical or anything, I'm just trying to figure your ideas, and logic out...
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ls is $23k
LSA crate motor is $14,500.00
upgrade suspension and maybe a supercharger and i am gonna blow those ss's off the road.
This is 37.5K

How much is that Suspension and brakes going to cost?

Now What if the V6's aisin 6spd can't handle the power? (It's a good tranny just the 556hp LSA might be asking a bit much of it)

Also, you will have to upgrade the Tires and wheels to house the breaks.(There isn't alot of room with those 18 inch rims)

By the time you are done, you are going to end up paying alot more then what just the SS would of provided with a simple upgrade from there. Hell look at it like this, Why not Buy a 1SS, get an LSA Crate engine, and then Sell the LS3 out of the SS?
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Hell look at it like this, Why not Buy a 1SS, get an LSA Crate engine, and then Sell the LS3 out of the SS?
thats a good idea.
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One more little tid bit for ya..... your at 37000 without any suspension or super charger...

1ss is 31000. Thats 6 grand to upgrade their motor and aything else..... more if ya throw in the cost of you upgrading suspension, throwing in a supercharger, oh and replacing the "$hi! brembos"......

I dont think you thought this one all the way through.......
I dont think you see the benefits of his plan correctly

he deems the brakes, suspension, engine on the SS to not be sufficient. instead of getting a 1SS and replacing the brakes and suspension and getting a super charger he would be buying a LS and replacing all of the parts on the LS with the same upgraded parts he would have put on the 1SS. that would save him a ton of money. and in the end since the LSA is built for forced induction it would be more reliable to replace the supercharger on that than it would be to just slap a supercharger on the LS3.
something else he needs to take into consideration though is needing new wheels and tires.

well...a least i hope that was his thought process in coming up with the idea
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I dont think you see the benefits of his plan correctly

he deems the brakes, suspension, engine on the SS to not be sufficient. instead of getting a 1SS and replacing the brakes and suspension and getting a super charger he would be buying a LS and replacing all of the parts on the LS with the same upgraded parts he would have put on the 1SS. that would save him a ton of money. and in the end since the LSA is built for forced induction it would be more reliable to replace the supercharger on that than it would be to just slap a supercharger on the LS3.
something else he needs to take into consideration though is needing new wheels and tires.

well...a least i hope that was his thought process in coming up with the idea
Thank you. Finally, someone explains the logic. Now it finally makes some sense to me. Thanks lil_chef
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I dont think you see the benefits of his plan correctly

he deems the brakes, suspension, engine on the SS to not be sufficient. instead of getting a 1SS and replacing the brakes and suspension and getting a super charger he would be buying a LS and replacing all of the parts on the LS with the same upgraded parts he would have put on the 1SS. that would save him a ton of money. and in the end since the LSA is built for forced induction it would be more reliable to replace the supercharger on that than it would be to just slap a supercharger on the LS3.
something else he needs to take into consideration though is needing new wheels and tires.

well...a least i hope that was his thought process in coming up with the idea

LSA doesnt have forged internals. it would be very similar to just slapping a s/c onto an LS3.

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a camaro that can out run and corner a zr-1 that cost little more than half the price is my goal
its gonna cost a lot more than you are looking at to out run and out corner a ZR1. even a 90's ZR1.

the LSA pumping out ~550hp, LS9 pumping out ~650hp. ZR1 weighs how much less than the Camaro?

more power + Less weight > Less power + more weight.
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