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Old 04-19-2009, 07:13 PM   #1
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Subwoofer location

Where is the location for the LPO subwoofer option; trunk, deck behind the rear seat? TIA!
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:07 AM   #2
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I'm not sure if anyone knows for sure yet. I don't know if it's available to order yet, but I'm sure once they are, someone will have plenty of pics for us
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:01 AM   #3
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While we're on the subject, let's also discuss where the subwoofer should be as opposed to simply where it is. If we're going aftermarket, what would you guys recommend?
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While we're on the subject, let's also discuss where the subwoofer should be as opposed to simply where it is. If we're going aftermarket, what would you guys recommend?
I'm not sure what other's are doing with there Camaro's but I'm going with 2 pairs of shallow mount subwoofers on the walls in the trunk area. Shallow mount subs can mount with less than 4" of depth and can be installed into places most wouldnt even imagine.

With my design, I can drop the back seat while sitting in the driver seat looking back and still see the rear of the trunk.

But that's only if your craming for trunk capacity like me. I go camping 10 to 15 times a year so trunk space is everything when you want to shove a tent/coolers/gear in there.

The shallow mount subs will also allow you to install more than 2 if your a freak like I am and want not just quality but also more volume.

A Shallow mount woofer,
http://www.pioneerelectronics.ca/POC...ies/TS-SW1041D

What and how it looks and sounds installed,


Notice how small his boxes are which would fit nicely in the trunk of a Camaro! Whatever your decision is, a subwoofer sure makes a huge difference to a car audio system.



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Old 04-21-2009, 11:04 AM   #5
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I think I'll have to wait and see the trunk in the Camaro and listen to the BA audio system before I decide what, if anything, I want to do to improve the stereo. I don't think I'll want this car's stereo to be as loud as the system I have in my S-10 Blazer right now, but I definately want to make sure it sounds nice.
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I'm seriously investigating subwoofers right now, but I'm concerned about having to use Dynomat all over my performance car. I did a lot of research when I put a system in my Cobalt, but I want to start from scratch and hear some more opinions before I make any commitments in the Camaro. Since this is a performance car, I'm only wanting a basic system that will still allow me to enjoy my music with a little extra vigor. I'm really interested in spending my money on performance rather than audio.
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:52 AM   #7
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it really depends on your budget... but the top brands right now are
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:01 AM   #8
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I'm going to get a JL 13W6V2. I had two 10W6V2 subs in my old car and they were amazing.
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I'm going to get a JL 13W6V2. I had two 10W6V2 subs in my old car and they were amazing.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:54 AM   #10
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I've got two 12" Alpine Type-R's in a sealed box I built in my S-10 Blazer that provide amazingly clean, deep bass, and they're only powered by a Bazooka 550W mono amp. I've had this setup since about 2002, so after 7 years, the subs still hit hard, still sound great, and I didn't spend a boatload on the setup.

Anyone who's only looking for good clean sound and isn't interested in trying to win SPL/SQL competitions on the weekend, I would seriously urge you to consider Alpine subs. They use a sturdy, reliable construction and will last forever.
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:51 AM   #11
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I'm not sure what other's are doing with there Camaro's but I'm going with 2 pairs of shallow mount subwoofers on the walls in the trunk area. Shallow mount subs can mount with less than 4" of depth and can be installed into places most wouldnt even imagine.

With my design, I can drop the back seat while sitting in the driver seat looking back and still see the rear of the trunk.

But that's only if your craming for trunk capacity like me. I go camping 10 to 15 times a year so trunk space is everything when you want to shove a tent/coolers/gear in there.

The shallow mount subs will also allow you to install more than 2 if your a freak like I am and want not just quality but also more volume.

A Shallow mount woofer,
http://www.pioneerelectronics.ca/POC...ies/TS-SW1041D

What and how it looks and sounds installed,


Notice how small his boxes are which would fit nicely in the trunk of a Camaro! Whatever your decision is, a subwoofer sure makes a huge difference to a car audio system.



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Very interesting. Even though it is a shallow mount and not very much volume as far as the box is concerned, does it still perform with clear, crisp low end yet thump too? It seems you would be sacrificing performance by having such a small enclosure...or has Pioneer come up with new technology that no longer needs big bulky enclosures.

Also, if I go with a sub, I would want an installation where I could move the sub to the side so as not to block the opening going between the trunk and the cabin, i.e., back seat folded down in order to stow elongated cargo. Right now in my current car, my sub is fixed in place (and bulky leaving very little room for cargo) but I don't have fold down seats so no problem. I would still want to be able to use the cargo option as stated above. With this said, would the "12 shallow sub with enclosure included (on their website) be what I would need to consider? Then on top of that, what sort of amp would I need, a 200, 300, 400 watt amp? I guess I would afix the amp to the back of the enclosure, right? I don't need to rattle the windows but I do like rich, enhanced low end and I do like to roll down the windows and pump the music on rare occassions. I'm not hardcore but I do enjoy the enriched experience a decent sub adds to the music. I like clean, crisp low end. I DO NOT like distorted low end that sounds like somebody just ripped a$$, y'know? I can't stand that. Here is the "prefab" unit I'm considering thanks to DJ's post...

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I guess I would have to rig something up to keep it in place. Something simple I could undo in order to move the sub around to the side when I need to use the cargo space via opening between trunk and cabin. Any suggestions or is this a totally bad idea?
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:58 AM   #12
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I'm betting in a short while we'll see Q-Logic and MTX Thunderform type vehicle specific sub enclosures that will fit nice and neat behind the tire tucked under the huge overhanging body panel. I'm too lazy to find a pic to explain what I'm thinking though
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:47 PM   #13
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I'm betting in a short while we'll see Q-Logic and MTX Thunderform type vehicle specific sub enclosures that will fit nice and neat behind the tire tucked under the huge overhanging body panel. I'm too lazy to find a pic to explain what I'm thinking though
thats where the Bose sub is on a fourth gen. and the other side is the spare tire.
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The audio sytem is already good enough as is. Personally, I wouldnt spend any money on it
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:42 PM   #15
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The audio sytem is already good enough as is. Personally, I wouldnt spend any money on it
That may be the best advice I've received on this site. I just may go that path after I have a chance to check out the system. I hope that is the case and I can spend that money on performance enhancements.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:57 AM   #16
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I'm not sure what other's are doing with there Camaro's but I'm going with 2 pairs of shallow mount subwoofers on the walls in the trunk area. Shallow mount subs can mount with less than 4" of depth and can be installed into places most wouldnt even imagine.

With my design, I can drop the back seat while sitting in the driver seat looking back and still see the rear of the trunk.

But that's only if your craming for trunk capacity like me. I go camping 10 to 15 times a year so trunk space is everything when you want to shove a tent/coolers/gear in there.

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but your not getting anything larger than a golf bag into the trunk of a 2010 Camaro. The access is worse than that on any other car I have driven. The 95-09 Mustang's make this thing look huge! (When talking about the Accessibility only) Volume of the trunk is VERY NICE, but the access is crap. If you want to load the trunk from the back seat area, it may be better, but I haven't gotten that crazy with it yet.
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Two JL subs....one on either side so the seat will still fold down. This is how I'm doing it.
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I had a full Focal system installed in my wife's car for Christmas and I am very happy with it. Perfectly clean, chrisp sound without getting retarded with the cost. Their subs have come a very long way.

If you are going all out for sound quality, personally, I like MB Quart or Focal speakers for midrange and tweeters and a sub that will provide the correct amount of bass for your taste and exsisting mids/tweets. Nothing sounds worse than a JL 13w7 getting pushed by a 1000 watt amp and garbage mids/tweets with an underpowereed amp trying to keep up.

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Two JL subs....one on either side so the seat will still fold down. This is how I'm doing it.
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Two JL subs....one on either side so the seat will still fold down. This is how I'm doing it.
Do you do any kind of fiberglass work? I've been meaning to get my hands dirty and try it out, but I keep putting it off. These cars would seem like a prime opportunity to get into it, especially to fit something in to those two spots and be able to utilize as much enclosure volume as possible...
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If your going to do the work yourself, i would say stay away from fiberglass unless u have prior experience. Stick with MDF and a couple of 10" subs on either side and you will have an awesome sounding system.

Just to toss out some info, i dont think that putting the subs in the corners is going to make having a ported box very feasible. Unless you spend a lot of time calculating the box volume and shape to have a port tuned for the right freequency, a sealed enclosure is defiantly a better bet. So for people looking for some great sounding bass, with excelent sound reproduction a couple sealed enclosures in the sides should work great....if you are of the persuasion of having massive boomy bass that you can hear from a block away, ur path lies elsewhere, likely with a big ported box

remember its the enclosure that makes the sub!

p.s i HATE ppl with massive ported boxes with bass u can hear from a block away....lol....stupid ricers
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Well, if I were going to build a pair of fiberglass boxes to fit behind the wheels, they would be sealed boxes. Fiberglass isn't too difficult to work with, so long as you have the right equipment and have a gameplan. Plus, fiberglass is a lot easier to blend into the contours of the vehicle, whereas a simple MDF box kind of sticks out like a sore thumb.

Either way, I'll need to take a look at the car first and see what my options are
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my subwoofer options. suggestions?


im doing research to have a sub installed for next week.
im still not sure of the following....

1x 10" type r alpine w/ alpine M500 amp approx 675$can

vs

1x 12" type r alpine w/ apine m1000 amp approx 950$can

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JBL 360 Watts Mono Subwoofer Amplifier (GTO3501) approx 650$can
1x JBL 10" Subwoofer (GTO1014D)


prices include box 100$, wiring 100$, and installation 50-100$

im aiming for a complete the sound with low frequencies and not power.
im thinking the 10" alpine so far...
any suggestions?

the thin pioneer look interesting. do they stand up to these setups?
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it really depends on your budget... but the top brands right now are
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Memphis
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Eclipse.
Dc audio
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Rockford Fosgate
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Hell ya man I have 2 RE SX 12's sitting at home waiting, and a 1500wrms Memphis mono amp... bumpin lol
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im doing research to have a sub installed for next week.
im still not sure of the following....

1x 10" type r alpine w/ alpine M500 amp approx 675$can

vs

1x 12" type r alpine w/ apine m1000 amp approx 950$can

vs

JBL 360 Watts Mono Subwoofer Amplifier (GTO3501) approx 650$can
1x JBL 10" Subwoofer (GTO1014D)


prices include box 100$, wiring 100$, and installation 50-100$

im aiming for a complete the sound with low frequencies and not power.
im thinking the 10" alpine so far...
any suggestions?

the thin pioneer look interesting. do they stand up to these setups?
If you're looking for great sound quality in the sub, there are a few factors you want to look at in the amp and sub

Amp
Signal to noise ratio - higher the better
Damping factor - higher the better
RMS power, again higher the better

personally i would trade higher SnR ratio and damping factor over higher rms levels

Sub
Sensitivity - higher is better, but makes it easy to over power the sub
Power handling - self explanitory
Linear excursion - more=better
Magnet size and materials....nice stiff subs produce the best sound


personally, i am quite partial to JL audio stuff, their W7 series subwoofer's are just awe inspiring, and their amps are awesome too...tho they can be a bit expensive
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