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Old 04-19-2009, 09:08 PM   #1
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e46 (2001-2006) BMW M3 vs. Camaro SS

I haven't seen this yet, and I'm just curious. I drive a bimmer so don't trash them too badly haha. I've actually put my M3 up for sale to pay for the CGM 2SS RS I've ordered


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Well the M3 is going to have alot more steering feel and respond a good deal better, however the Camaro is going to pull alot harder and look alot better imo.


Quality/interior/attention to detail wise, ill bet your car was 50kish when you bought it so dont expect this to be comparable.
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well the camaro beat it by 3 seconds or so on the nurburgring
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Old 04-19-2009, 09:42 PM   #4
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well the camaro beat it by 3 seconds or so on the nurburgring
Did anyone see the "Top Gear" episode where they had that expert lady driver take that delivery van and try and beat Jeremy's time in some car using the ford van?

She was damn good, and she was actually passing these stunned looking drivers. I think she even passed a motorcycle at one point.

I wonder if someone who was a real expert on the ring would be able to get an even better time in the SS and LS for that matter?
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Well the M3 is going to have alot more steering feel and respond a good deal better, however the Camaro is going to pull alot harder and look alot better imo.


Quality/interior/attention to detail wise, ill bet your car was 50kish when you bought it so dont expect this to be comparable.
I really hope I haven't been spoiled by the interior of the BMW, though the Camaro's does look very appealing. I know, I know, "who buys a Camaro for the interior?" but still, it's the part of the car you see most of the time. I'm thinking that if I am in the least bit disappointed in the interior, the sound of the V8 and the feel of the car accelerating will certainly make up for it. I've been listening to an I6 for too long, and I must say I'm ready to hear the V8 roar. In terms of looks...it could go either way for me, mainly because I've put some money into my car. But I'm sure the day I see my car in person, the tables will definitely turn.
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I really hope I haven't been spoiled by the interior of the BMW, though the Camaro's does look very appealing. I know, I know, "who buys a Camaro for the interior?" but still, it's the part of the car you see most of the time. I'm thinking that if I am in the least bit disappointed in the interior, the sound of the V8 and the feel of the car accelerating will certainly make up for it. I've been listening to an I6 for too long, and I must say I'm ready to hear the V8 roar. In terms of looks...it could go either way for me, mainly because I've put some money into my car. But I'm sure the day I see my car in person, the tables will definitely turn.
What are the top 3 things you love about your own car (the m3) and the 3 least fav things
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What are the top 3 things you love about your own car (the m3) and the 3 least fav things
hmmmm....this could be tough. how about 4?

Like:
1. I LOVE the fender flares over the rear wheels. looks beautiful with aftermarket wheels/tires and some coilovers.
2. Though I just ragged on the sound of the car, the engine is pretty incredible: A high revving 3.2 liter with 333 hp. Very well engineered.
3. The interior quality is a step above most cars. I love the feel of the thick steering wheel...which sounds weird but whatever.
4. It has a big trunk, and can carry four comfortably, yet it's still quick.

Dislike:
1. Seats are rough on the lower back for longer drives
2. Modifications cost serious $$$$$. same with maintenance work.
3. Something breaking down is always in the back of my mind. I have the SMG, so if that goes bad, I'm out thousands.
4. no spare...though my camaro won't either. i can get over that though.

I'm sure I overlooked a couple things, but that's just a quick list off the top of my head.
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Old 04-19-2009, 10:29 PM   #8
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They are definately different style cars - but performance seems to be matched fairly well. camaro is a bigger car wit compensating extra power e46 m3 is one of my fav cars, along with the e39 M5

I think your doing good going with a camaro (well, you can't go wrong picking between those two!)



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Did anyone see the "Top Gear" episode where they had that expert lady driver take that delivery van and try and beat Jeremy's time in some car using the ford van?

She was damn good, and she was actually passing these stunned looking drivers. I think she even passed a motorcycle at one point.

I wonder if someone who was a real expert on the ring would be able to get an even better time in the SS and LS for that matter?
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hmmmm....this could be tough. how about 4?

Like:
1. I LOVE the fender flares over the rear wheels. looks beautiful with aftermarket wheels/tires and some coilovers.
2. Though I just ragged on the sound of the car, the engine is pretty incredible: A high revving 3.2 liter with 333 hp. Very well engineered.
3. The interior quality is a step above most cars. I love the feel of the thick steering wheel...which sounds weird but whatever.
4. It has a big trunk, and can carry four comfortably, yet it's still quick.

Dislike:
1. Seats are rough on the lower back for longer drives
2. Modifications cost serious $$$$$. same with maintenance work.
3. Something breaking down is always in the back of my mind. I have the SMG, so if that goes bad, I'm out thousands.
4. no spare...though my camaro won't either. i can get over that though.

I'm sure I overlooked a couple things, but that's just a quick list off the top of my head.
i think the camaro is going to be good for you, it seems like the things you enjoy most about your M can be acheived with the SS. The high revving engine and german styling cues are going to be gone, but you'll forget about them when you've got a big American V8.

The only thing is interior quality.. there is a huge gap. Im guessing you'll end up looking past it, but at the same time if it was me id have a hard time dealing with the change.

BUT. you'll end up being very very happy with it when it comes times for work on the car and you dont have to sell organs to afford it.
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Did anyone see the "Top Gear" episode where they had that expert lady driver take that delivery van and try and beat Jeremy's time in some car using the ford van?

She was damn good, and she was actually passing these stunned looking drivers. I think she even passed a motorcycle at one point.

I wonder if someone who was a real expert on the ring would be able to get an even better time in the SS and LS for that matter?
yeah that was awesome
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Straight line performance goes to the camaro .. corners go to the BMW ... it is hard to compare the two though as I view them as having two different purposes and price points ..

And btw .. I own a 135i (trading / selling for the camaro)... I'd like to see that comparison too as it is a little more in the same pricerange (although the BMW is still a a little more expensive) ..

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The only thing is interior quality.. there is a huge gap. Im guessing you'll end up looking past it, but at the same time if it was me id have a hard time dealing with the change.
There is quality, and there's materials.

Not for anything, but I feel it's important to differenciate. In the materials, I agree there's a huge gap (about 20 thousand dollars worth )...but not in quality (as in fit, finish, rattles, etc).




EDIT: And according to Edmunds, the Camaro accelerates to 60 faster, goes through the quarter faster, brakes faster, and goes through the slalom at a higher mph than the 2001 M3.
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There is quality, and there's materials.

Not for anything, but I feel it's important to differenciate. In the materials, I agree there's a huge gap (about 20 thousand dollars worth )...but not in quality (as in fit, finish, rattles, etc).




EDIT: And according to Edmunds, the Camaro accelerates to 60 faster, goes through the quarter faster, brakes faster, and goes through the slalom at a higher mph than the 2001 M3.



Good point. I guess it is important to specify that the MATERIALS used are going to be a good deal different, not the care to which they were put together. Its not going to be bad build quality, but its not going to measure up to the same standard of materials either
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And according to Edmunds, the Camaro accelerates to 60 faster, goes through the quarter faster, brakes faster, and goes through the slalom at a higher mph than the 2001 M3.
Yeah, I've seen those figures. It's just tough selling the M3, then paying an additional 10K for the Camaro. I believe I will soon be parting with my baby though:( Now I'm just ready for the Camaro
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That's a sweet ass M3. I would be really cautious if I were you before pulling the trigger on this. Once the "newness" wears off, and the "oohs" and "ahhs" of a new and unique looking car are past, you're going to have to hope the Camaro retains as pleasurable and timeless of value to you.

That said, the Camaro does look great, and I'm thinking about picking one up as a second car if all checks out when I see it, and it will be tons faster than the M3.

The interior will be a huge difference though, the weak link for the "Maro to me so far is that interior, seems they could have given it a better design, materials of course go without saying in terms of difference from the Bimmer.
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The one thing that might keep me from getting a Camaro Convertible a few years from now is not being able to wait and picking up 2010 M3.
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I really hope I haven't been spoiled by the interior of the BMW, though the Camaro's does look very appealing. I know, I know, "who buys a Camaro for the interior?" but still, it's the part of the car you see most of the time. I'm thinking that if I am in the least bit disappointed in the interior, the sound of the V8 and the feel of the car accelerating will certainly make up for it. I've been listening to an I6 for too long, and I must say I'm ready to hear the V8 roar. In terms of looks...it could go either way for me, mainly because I've put some money into my car. But I'm sure the day I see my car in person, the tables will definitely turn.
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Yeah, I've seen those figures. It's just tough selling the M3, then paying an additional 10K for the Camaro. I believe I will soon be parting with my baby though:( Now I'm just ready for the Camaro
Nice M3.

The problem is you're trying to compare two cars that are in two disctinctly different classes.

BMW's are high end sports cars. They don't make a Camaro competitor, and never have. So you're kind of comparing apples to oranges.

An M3 and a Camaro are going to drive completely different. One is not better than the other in terms of the way it drives, its a matter of preference. Personally, given the choice I prefer a muscle car over a sports coupe like an M3, but thats just me.

And as was said, of course the interior of the BMW is going to be more impressive than that of a Camaro. There's nothing wrong with that, its how its supposed to be given the price difference and the ideals of each car. Thats not to discredit the Camaro though, the interior is very well finished and uses quality materials, but its no BMW obviously.

I think a much better comparison would be your M3 vs. a CTS-V. They are both in the same class of high end sports sedans/coupes. Then you could directly compare interiors and styling on the same plane, as well as price points.

It sounds like you're already made your mind up on which car you prefer, seeing as you have one on order. Welcome to Muscle car performance and enjoy your new car
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The one thing that might keep me from getting a Camaro Convertible a few years from now is not being able to wait and picking up 2010 M3.

E92 M3's are going for about $60k right? Even if the E92 M3 is a much better car, it also costs almost twice as much. I think the Camaro SS is a much better value.
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I apologize for...offending you? I suppose I was just under the impression that most people spend more time in the car than looking at it. Sure, it's grand to look at, but all in all, if you drive, say, 45 minutes a day, I'm not thinking you'll also stand and look at the exterior for 45+ minutes in that day. That's just me though I guess.
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the M3"s are definatly super sexy if you have the money for it...But for those of us who arnt rich but still well off we have the camaro's.....
See, here's the deal that I didn't really mention. I got this car about two and a half years ago used for about $34,000....which is a little less than the price of the new 2SS RS I ordered. I wouldn't be able to afford paying for one brand new, as some of you imply that I did. So, of course, the new m3 and the new camaro aren't competitors, and when the e46 m3 came out, the camaro wasn't a competitor, but now, you can pick up an e46 for $10K less than the SS, so i was interested in comparing them.

I have indeed ordered the camaro though, so I'm not trying to argue. This is just for comparison's sake. I'm ready for a v8.
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