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Old 04-19-2009, 10:29 PM   #1
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Where have past Camaros been built?

Ok, the 4th and 5th gens have been built in Canada. What cities were
the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gens built?
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Norwood Ohio and Van Nuys Cal for 2nd genearation I believe.
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From the fall of 1966 thru the 1987 model year, Camaros were built at Van Nuys, California (Los angeles) and Norwood, Ohio (Cincinnati)

Norwood was closed at the end of the 87 model run.

Van Nuys continued to build until the end of the 1992 model run.

In 1993 (start of the 4th gen) Van Nuys was closed and production was moved to Ste. Therese, Quebec (Boisbriand) which is a suburb of Montreal.

That plant was closed at the end of 2002 -- and has since been demolished.


Trivia: Some Firebird and Camaro bodies were built at the Lordstown Fisher Body plant (first gen) -- and the bodies were then shipped to Norwood for final assembly...........

Of course, the 5th gen is built at Oshawa, Ontario.....
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Norwood built 1st through 3rd gens I believe...I'll have to ask my dad, though I think he was only around for 2nd and 3rd.
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Old 04-19-2009, 10:41 PM   #5
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From the fall of 1966 thru the 1987 model year, Camaros were built at Van Nuys, California (Los angeles) and Norwood, Ohio (Cincinnati)

Norwood was closed at the end of the 87 model run.

Van Nuys continued to build until the end of the 1992 model run.

In 1993 (start of the 4th gen) Van Nuys was closed and production was moved to Ste. Therese, Quebec (Boisbriand) which is a suburb of Montreal.

That plant was closed at the end of 2002 -- and has since been demolished.


Trivia: Some Firebird and Camaro bodies were built at the Lordstown Fisher Body plant (first gen) -- and the bodies were then shipped to Norwood for final assembly...........

Of course, the 5th gen is built at Oshawa, Ontario.....
Thanks Fbod!! Hey, I see you live in Grosse Pointe Farms. My aunt used to live in Grosse Pointe Woods for many years until she passed. I love that suburban area of Detroit.
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Van Nuys = Valley Girls (era perspective).
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:41 AM   #7
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Camaro from Van Nuys, CA

Here is my One Owner 1967 Camaro RS that was built in Van Nuys, CA
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And that's the car that should be the example for the "will this car ever be collectable".

Exhibit A above.
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Does anyone know why GM chose to build the new Camaro in Canada and not the US?
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Does anyone know why GM chose to build the new Camaro in Canada and not the US?

Because of $$$$$
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Norwood plant was the 1st thru 3rd generations. A friend of mine still owns the last
camaro to run off the line at Norwood.
Fenwick......it seems there are a number of us on this forum that have Dads that worked
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Does anyone know why GM chose to build the new Camaro in Canada and not the US?
A few reasons. Part of it was that they had to come good on an original agreement with the CAW when they closed the 4th gen plant in Quebec. Not going into detail there except to say part of the deal was that they not build the Camaro in any other country.

Secondly, the Oshawa plant is the highest quality plant in North America. It produces more higher quality cars then any other GM plant in Mexico, Canada or the US. Why wouldn't you want it built there? If the car was built at any other GM plant, the quality would suffer. American made isn't always the best.
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I stand corrected!! My previous post was wrong. My buddy does not have the last
to roll out of the Norwood plant....He has "One of the last that rolled off the assembly
line in Norwood"

Sorry for the misinformation
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hylton you're correct. but before the camaro was awarded to oshawa, what model they were doing? monte carlo,lumina--at the time--impala? correct me if i'm wrong..

but when st-therese was doing the f model, it was THEM who had the highest quality at that time.that didn't stop gm to shut it down. hope it doesn't happen to oshawa too..
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hylton you're correct. but before the camaro was awarded to oshawa, what model they were doing? monte carlo,lumina--at the time--impala? correct me if i'm wrong..

but when st-therese was doing the f model, it was THEM who had the highest quality at that time.that didn't stop gm to shut it down. hope it doesn't happen to oshawa too..
Oshawa is actually 3 car plants and a stamping plant all on one site. They are still building the Impala and Buick Lacrosse. The truck plant is closing next month and Impala will take a bit of a vacation in 2011. They have been sniffing around the plant over the last few months looking to add a car or two in the upcoming years.
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Here is my One Owner 1967 Camaro RS that was built in Van Nuys, CA

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Norwood plant was the 1st thru 3rd generations. A friend of mine still owns the last
camaro to run off the line at Norwood.
Fenwick......it seems there are a number of us on this forum that have Dads that worked
at Norwood.
Cool, when'd your dad work there? Mine worked up until the plant shut down then transferred up the highway to Delphi.
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There is only 2 car plants at GM Oshawa. Car plant 1 and car plant 2. Which as of when the flex line was put in for the camaro ceased to exist. Now we have the flex line "camaro and more" and the consolidated line "impala,allure". And the truck plant that I loved so much. Then a metal stamping plant and the west paintshop for car plant "my plant". Before the camaro we were building the impala, allure, grand prix and monte carlo.
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Trivia: Some Firebird and Camaro bodies were built at the Lordstown Fisher Body plant (first gen) -- and the bodies were then shipped to Norwood for final assembly...........
1967 thru 69 Firebirds were built at Lordstown, Ohio. see doc below.



Don't know how accurate this info is or recall where I got it.

1st Generation Camaro Production Info

1967
SS - 34,311 total units
Pace Car - 104 units

Though Camaro and Mustang were similar in size and style, Camaro differed from its main competitor by offering a sub-frame attached to a unitized body for better road and noise isolation as well as better ride quality. Camaro also offered a myriad of options and trim levels from the Style Trim Group, to the Rally Sport (RS) package, from the ultimate Super Sport (SS) to a special edition "Z28" which was developed as a contender for SCCA's Trans-Am Racing Series. Because the series had a maximum displacement limit of 305 cubic inches, a special Chevrolet "small block V8" displacing 302 cubic inches was used to power the Z28. The Camaro was selected to pace the 1967 Indianapolis 500. This distinctive RS/SS Pace Car was painted Bright White and featured a Bright Blue custom interior. A matching blue "Bumble Bee" stripe around the nose completed the look. Approximately 100 replicas were produced, making this Pace Car one of the most collectable and most valuable Camaros! Production for the 1967 model year totaled 110,906.

1968
SS - 30,695 total units

The '68 Camaro retained a similar appearance to the '67, but with subtle differences: vent windows disappeared with the advent of "astro ventilation," side marker lights were added due to government regulations. The first production cloth trims were offered - the now-famous houndstooth cloth made its debut. A revised grill and taillamps distinguished Camaro from the '67 model. Camaro SS offered two distinctive hoods - one for the 350 engine, the other with the 396 engine. A total of 255,147 Camaros were built for the '68 model year.

1969
SS - 36,309 total units
Pace Car - 3,675 units

Camaro was given a make-over for 1969, introducing new sheet metal that gave the car a decidedly lower, wider stance - hence the name "Hugger." Production started on September 26, 1968 and ended on February 26, 1970, effectively making the next Camaro a 1970-1/2. The options grew as well as the color palette. An optional "halo" vinyl roof gave Camaro a distinctive look. For a second time, the Camaro paced the Indianapolis 500. A Dover White RS/SS Convertible with orange houndstooth upholstery and the now-famous "Hugger orange" stripes made this Pace Car memorable. Approximately 3,675 replicas were produced. A grand total of 243,065 1969 Camaros were built.


2nd Generation Camaro Production Info


1970
SS - 15,201 total units

The second generation Camaro was introduced in the spring of 1970, along with a slightly revised Corvette. While Camaro shared the "semi-unitized" body concept with the first generation car, virtually every part was new. The new body had a definite European influence. Front end treatments were distinctively different depending on whether the Rally Sport Package was ordered. Because SCCA Trans-Am rules changed and allowed "destroking" larger engines, the new Camaro Z28 came with a 350 cu. in. engine developing 360 horsepower. The ultimate SS Camaro offered an optional 396 cu. in. engine with 375 hp. The convertible was dropped from the second generation. Due the a short model year, only 124,901 1970 Camaros were produced.

1971
SS - 18,287 total units

While the '71 Camaro was considered a "carry-over" due to a short 1970 1/2 build, there were differences - from the wheel trim to the exterior and interior colors. A new seat design featured "high back" buckets. Horsepower ratings changed in 1971 - from "gross" to "net" - and with the coincidental drop in compression ratio, it appeared the power loss was greater than it actually was. Production was down to 114,630 units - primarily due to a long strike at General Motors in the fall of 1970.

1972
SS - 7,532 total units

Grilles on Rally Sport models gave a new appearance with a coarser mess. Vinyl roof covers now had a "wet" look. The 1972 Camaros were the last models to offer "big-block" engines. In fact, only 930 were produced with the big block. This would be the last year for the "SS" for a number of years. Camaro production was reduced to 68,651 due to a 117 day strike at the Norwood, Ohio assembly plant. When the strike was over, nearly 1100 partially assembled 1972 models were scrapped because they could not be brought into compliance with 1973 bumper requirements.
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thanks for the info hylton & 80Zedder. i know the camaro brings a lot of attention to oshawa but still it's not like your doing a profitable model ..meaning you'll do maybe 50 thousand at the top and then it will settle down,--in st-therese the first year they were running like crazy and then the line came to a slow pace and we know all the rest..--
compared to pick ups when it's the bread&butter of gm it's like build them as many as you can do.. i know know these are difficult times.. the model that could help gm is to bring that chevy cruise up here..it's the model that will replace the cobalt/g5..

when the camaro line was built did they use the same paint shop or they invested in a new one ? i saw one camaro last week up closely and the paint quality is very good compared to my 2002.. less orange peel in it. the new paint is it still base coat/clear coat?? thanks
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I wish I had a pic of my 78 when I was "done" with it. You guys would lolerz.

It had 3 colors of primer. A dark blue Z28 front end, half broken, broken grill, doors would not open from crash damage. No Headliner, no back seats etc etc.

In the morning I would just slide in the window and not bother to ever even roll it up. Grant GT steering wheel too I forgot.

It was a Body by Fischer and the body stood strong with all that Dukes of Hazzard style abuse.
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thanks for the info hylton & 80Zedder. i know the camaro brings a lot of attention to oshawa but still it's not like your doing a profitable model ..meaning you'll do maybe 50 thousand at the top and then it will settle down,--in st-therese the first year they were running like crazy and then the line came to a slow pace and we know all the rest..--
compared to pick ups when it's the bread&butter of gm it's like build them as many as you can do.. i know know these are difficult times.. the model that could help gm is to bring that chevy cruise up here..it's the model that will replace the cobalt/g5..

when the camaro line was built did they use the same paint shop or they invested in a new one ? i saw one camaro last week up closely and the paint quality is very good compared to my 2002.. less orange peel in it. the new paint is it still base coat/clear coat?? thanks
There are a few differences compared to the 4th gen models. First, the car has an appeal that has never been experienced before accoring to many who are driving them now. People are pulling over and stopping in the middle of the road to take pictured of it. It is more competitively priced compared to the 4th gens. The same 4th gen was selling in Canada for 5K more then a comparitively equipped Mustang. Not so now.

The V6 2010 Camaro is just as appealing cosmetically as the V8 which is new. Many found the 4th gen V6's to be bland looking. The 4th gen V6 were dogs performance wise where the 2010 V6 Camaro has more HP then any LT1 4th gen!

Cost wise, the Camaro shares much of it's engineering costs with other world products such as the G8 and the Corvette. It is also designed to be a world car so that minimal changes in design would be required to offer the car in Europe, Asia or South America.

Compare the Camaro to any other car out there and you will see that GM has done quite a bit more work in "getting it right" compared to past offerings.

Oshawa's paint plant is state of the art and one of the most advanced GM has. It is base/clear. The base is actually a water based paint.
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My 2002 Firebird Trans Am WA6 was the best car I think I ever owned, in 4 yrs the only problem I had was leaking radiator hose (clamp would not hold). When I got the car (ordered) the windshield had many OK stickers. The dealer said he never seen anything like it and found out the car was flagged for quality control. It was built on 9/11/2001 per the manifest that was with the car.

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My 2002 Firebird Trans Am WA6 was the best car I think I ever owned, in 4 yrs the only problem I had was leaking radiator hose (clamp would not hold).
Come on admit it - you changed at least one window motor...
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Nope, never any problems. Could not say that for my 2005 CTS though, that was a pita car as the failure list was a mile long. From the Getrag rear axle going out at 2,000 miles to the front suspension needing new control arms and struts at 29,000 miles, not to mention all the electronic gremlins the car experienced. All covered by the 4yr/50,000 mi cadi warranty. Surprising I bought another one but I just love the car.

Thought about a 2010 Camaro but did not like the games the dealers were playing and did not want to wait like I did for a 2001 Duramax, 7 months (dealer games with allocations).
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