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Old 12-28-2011, 08:32 PM   #1
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HELP! What are these bearings from??

Ok so I was changing my oil tonight and I pulled the magnetic drain plug out and these were stuck on the end. I have a Jannetty installed cam package so I'm gonna call them in the morning but SHOULD I BE WORRIED??

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Old 12-28-2011, 08:52 PM   #2
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I have no idea where they came from, but yes, I would be VERY concerned!!!! In fact, I wouldn't start your engine until you find out where they came from.
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They look like needle bearings from rocker arms
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They look like needle bearings from rocker arms
BINGO. Teardown time.
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:04 PM   #5
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They look like needle bearings from rocker arms
This^^^^^^ Dont try to start it, but take the valve covers off and inspect the rockers
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:19 PM   #6
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Thanks a lot guys. Weird part is I have about 4500 miles on the cam and valve train upgrade and not a single noise or problem. Or is this something that I might not notice until it completely goes? I would have expected a lot more bearings from the rocker arms?
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:23 PM   #7
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Do you think these stray ones could have fallen out of the old rockers when they did the trunion upgrade?
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:28 PM   #8
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Sounds like I have the same Jannetty cam package...I've had no problems whatsoever and just ordered a magnetic drain plug. I would say since the trunion upgrade would be done on a press/vice that these are not from the stock rocker bearings. Though when you are pressing out the stock ones those needles go everywhere. I'm very curious what Ted has to say.
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Yeah I have the 470 but the only difference is the cam. I'm gonna call Ted in the morning.
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:46 PM   #10
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I just had the trunion upgrade done to my rockers...

Thank goodness for magnetic plugs!
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:45 AM   #11
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Those are 110% rocker arm needles. Pull yours and get the trunion upgrade.
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Do you think these stray ones could have fallen out of the old rockers when they did the trunion upgrade?
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Those are 110% rocker arm needles. Pull yours and get the trunion upgrade.
I think he said he had the trunion upgrade...

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Those are 110% rocker arm needles. Pull yours and get the trunion upgrade.
He says he already has the trunnion upgrade...hopefully you didn't lose a snap ring on the trunnion and lose one of the comp bearings...if a bearing from the comp upgrade kit comes completely off of the trunnion, there are similar needles that you could lose inside the engine.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:58 AM   #14
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Yeah unless they are stuck in the engine elsewhere these are all that came out and I flushed some extra oil through. I think Jannetty's is closed for a couple more days but I want to talk to Ted directly before I go pulling valve covers cuz idk what exactly to look for. Maybe I'll be doing a forged stroked sooner than I thoughtN
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Do you think these stray ones could have fallen out of the old rockers when they did the trunion upgrade?
no because when you do the upgrade you take the rockers off the engine and re-build them on the work bench, then re-install them to the car.

time to pull the valve covers and have a look!
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no because when you do the upgrade you take the rockers off the engine and re-build them on the work bench, then re-install them to the car.

time to pull the valve covers and have a look!
Ok thanks, what exactly should I be looking for? Is it possible that only a few popped out at this point or will there probably be more noticeable damage once I pull the covers off?
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Ok thanks, what exactly should I be looking for? Is it possible that only a few popped out at this point or will there probably be more noticeable damage once I pull the covers off?

pull the valve covers and look at both sides of each rocker to see if the cap popped off and if there are any needle bearings laying in the bottom of the head, might take a small magnet and run it across the bottom through the oil and see if you pick up any more.
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stock rocker on the right, and the other pic is what the upgrade kit looks like with the new bearings and snap rings

on the stock rockers, the cap on the end will pop off and the bearings will slide out.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:35 AM   #20
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Junk the factory rocker arms and the trunion upgrade. Jesel is the way to go.

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Junk the factory rocker arms and the trunion upgrade. Jesel is the way to go.

Wow, now that sure is "purty"!!!!!
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:38 PM   #22
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also could be a lifter bearing. the roller bearings in the roller on the lifter look like those also. i have see a few of them fail and look just like that. check all your rockers first, that's the easiest
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the OP said he had the trunnion rebuilds done already!
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We offer trunnion rebuilds, have been doing them for a very long time now... we media blast the rockers as well so you are getting back a set that looks new.... no need to drop $1650 on a set of Jesels...LOL
The rebuild absolutely fixes the problem ...... that needle could have been from before they were rebuilt, I doubt they stood over or near the vehicle when the popped them....LOL

The stock rocker only likes so many rpms and lift
Wait, I'm a little confused by this ^ are you saying the rebuild I had done should have been enough to prevent this or that Your additional rebuild steps would prevent this??
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Wait, I'm a little confused by this ^ are you saying the rebuild I had done should have been enough to prevent this or that Your additional rebuild steps would prevent this??
yes if you had the trunnion upgrade kit installed this would not have happened,, so untill you take a valve cover off and check them, we are all just guessing,, as said also these could be from a bad lifter roller.
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