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Old 12-29-2011, 02:08 AM   #1
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Muffler choice

Can someone point me the right direction for a good sounding muffler....
I have a single 3'' catback, and it has one 3'' centre/centre hotdog resonator and a 7'' oval stainless muffler 3'' centre/centre at the rear.

I have headers 4.1 1 3/4 3'' with 2.5'' pipes off the headers into a 2.5'' Y Pipe then the single 3'' exhaust.

There is plenty room for a new rear muffler and room for bullet type mufflers where the 2.5'' cat delete pipes are.

What is a simple muffler swap that has a deep V8 Throaty rumble.

Flowmaster 44
SLP Bullets
Flowmaster DBX on the rear?

Any suggestions? Thanks
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Can someone point me the right direction for a good sounding muffler....
I have a single 3'' catback, and it has one 3'' centre/centre hotdog resonator and a 7'' oval stainless muffler 3'' centre/centre at the rear.

I have headers 4.1 1 3/4 3'' with 2.5'' pipes off the headers into a 2.5'' Y Pipe then the single 3'' exhaust.

There is plenty room for a new rear muffler and room for bullet type mufflers where the 2.5'' cat delete pipes are.

What is a simple muffler swap that has a deep V8 Throaty rumble.

Flowmaster 44
SLP Bullets
Flowmaster DBX on the rear?

Any suggestions? Thanks
The Borla ATAK Mufflers sound really awesome and are the best I've heard, but not sure how they would sound with your set up... I'm partial to running no mufflers, but if I had your set up, I suppose I would be muffler shopping too.
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Old 12-29-2011, 02:34 AM   #3
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The Borla ATAK Mufflers sound really awesome and are the best I've heard, but not sure how they would sound with your set up... I'm partial to running no mufflers, but if I had your set up, I suppose I would be muffler shopping too.
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I can just change the rear muffler to something like the Atak Muffler or the flowmaster muffler used on there axle back. . Im not so sure a box type muffler like the super 44 is designed to be used as a rear muffler, ? My current setup im only running two mufflers a 3'' hotdog resi and a rear round muffler, so fairly high flowing
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I can just change the rear muffler to something like the Atak Muffler or the flowmaster muffler used on there axle back. . Im not so sure a box type muffler like the super 44 is designed to be used as a rear muffler, ? My current setup im only running two mufflers a 3'' hotdog resi and a rear round muffler, so fairly high flowing
If you consider the Borla Mufflers, go to their website and check out the video and info they have on the ATAKs. They have very good demonstration videos of each of their exausts systems; a good place to get a reference. Flowmaster are good too though...

They (Borla) make the claim that their mufflers provide more flow than a straight pipe, but don't really say exactly how. If you find out, let me know, because it seems illogical to me how a muffler---no matter how unrestrictive---can be more fluent than a straight pipe.
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If you consider the Borla Mufflers, go to their website and check out the video and info they have on the ATAKs. They have very good demonstration videos of each of their exausts systems; a good place to get a reference. Flowmaster are good too though...

They (Borla) make the claim that their mufflers provide more flow than a straight pipe, but don't really say exactly how. If you find out, let me know, because it seems illogical to me how a muffler---no matter how unrestrictive---can be more fluent than a straight pipe.
Never heard a Borla, flowmaster, SLP or any American muffler to be honest only on You Tube and the SLP sounds pretty deep sound, they have a range of mufflers. There's a supercharged Black SS Camaro i see from time to time , breaking speed records around traffic lights. Sounds pretty nasty.
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:09 PM   #6
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Never heard a Borla, flowmaster, SLP or any American muffler to be honest only on You Tube and the SLP sounds pretty deep sound, they have a range of mufflers. There's a supercharged Black SS Camaro i see from time to time , breaking speed records around traffic lights. Sounds pretty nasty.
You will be very interested in this vid from Borla for the Camaro.
http://www.youtube.com/user/borla?v=...maro%20exhaust
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Great video - thanks for posting!
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Cheers,
I can just change the rear muffler to something like the Atak Muffler or the flowmaster muffler used on there axle back. . Im not so sure a box type muffler like the super 44 is designed to be used as a rear muffler, ? My current setup im only running two mufflers a 3'' hotdog resi and a rear round muffler, so fairly high flowing



I listened to all the muffler videos and ended up preferring the axleback Borla S. I wanted the muffler with the low rumble at idle and plenty of growl at WOT. I am not dissappointed with my choice. Hope this helps.
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I was always a flowmaster man but couldn't be happier with no cat's or resonators and small magnaflows all 3". Nice deep rumble idling but is an animal at WOT.
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You will be very interested in this vid from Borla for the Camaro.
http://www.youtube.com/user/borla?v=...maro%20exhaust
Great video, out of the three Borla systems I like the S Type sound best
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For everyone who watched the video, did you catch the part where he said that the muffler was "proven" to be more free-flowing than a straight pipe? I still can't get my head around that. Small restriction = more flow than no restriction?

IMO, it's a very bold claim to make without at least briefly explaining how this can be. If anyone has the answer please chime in. Until someone can explain the science and logic of that, I will remain skeptical.
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For everyone who watched the video, did you catch the part where he said that the muffler was "proven" to be more free-flowing than a straight pipe? I still can't get my head around that. Small restriction = more flow than no restriction?

IMO, it's a very bold claim to make without at least briefly explaining how this can be. If anyone has the answer please chime in. Until someone can explain the science and logic of that, I will remain skeptical.
The logic is there but its not stated, a peice of internal straight pipe has no restriction, i think maybe he is referring to exhaust gas velocity speed, in which there design of internals , aids the gas to exit faster as oppossed to straight internal pipe. In a sense he would not make that claim unless there was in sufficent evidence from there research. In this day and age a product is sold due to marketing strategies and being one up on the competitor..
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The logic is there but its not stated, a peice of internal straight pipe has no restriction, i think maybe he is referring to exhaust gas velocity speed, in which there design of internals , aids the gas to exit faster as oppossed to straight internal pipe. In a sense he would not make that claim unless there was in sufficent evidence from there research. In this day and age a product is sold due to marketing strategies and being one up on the competitor..
Starting to make sense, thanks! I like learning new things! It would be very interesting to me to understand exactly how an internal design of a muffler can facilitate gases to escape quicker. Fully understanding this concept and seeing the evidence in comparison tests may just motivate me to put mufflers back on!
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Starting to make sense, thanks! I like learning new things! It would be very interesting to me to understand exactly how an internal design of a muffler can facilitate gases to escape quicker. Fully understanding this concept and seeing the evidence in comparison tests may just motivate me to put mufflers back on!
I doubt really there's is a handful of power difference between all top systems. I think a muffler is picked for sound. Im not too fussed about every last HP gains from a muffler, but more so the sound it makesnothing worse driving a V8 if it doesnt sound like you want....
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well i have bought a muffler its a stage 2, muffletech solutions muffler suppose to be designed for LS3 Engines, dyno tested to make 35 hp over stock.
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well i have bought a muffler its a stage 2, muffletech solutions muffler suppose to be designed for LS3 Engines, dyno tested to make 35 hp over stock.
dyno tested 35hp gain from mufflers?
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I bought new washer fluid, xtreme tech performance washer fluid solutions, dyno tested for 50hp over every other washer fluid.
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I live in Atlanta (Stone Mountain Area) I am going to purchase a Borla S-Type exhaust Tuesday versus a Magnaflow. Is this a good choice? Both have lifetime warranties and stainless steel. I do not want a system that is overly loud and slightly above factory. I want it to have deep low tones with no resignation. Please chime in ASAP!!! Thank you Camaro forum.
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I bought new washer fluid, xtreme tech performance washer fluid solutions, dyno tested for 50hp over every other washer fluid.
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I live in Atlanta (Stone Mountain Area) I am going to purchase a Borla S-Type exhaust Tuesday versus a Magnaflow. Is this a good choice? Both have lifetime warranties and stainless steel. I do not want a system that is overly loud and slightly above factory. I want it to have deep low tones with no resignation. Please chime in ASAP!!! Thank you Camaro forum.
I think it is. Borla is a very good choice.
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Guys, In the link below you can see video of our system being installed and near the end there's an excellent sound clip that clearly indicates what you get with ARH Pure Thunder mufflers. If you have any questions please feel free to ask. Thanks.

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Mufflers/cat-back systems make very little hp over stock on these cars. They are basically for SOUND ONLY. The real power comes from a good set of LT's.
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Mufflers/cat-back systems make very little hp over stock on these cars. They are basically for SOUND ONLY. The real power comes from a good set of LT's.
I agree with that, the one bit of performance that you will get with aftermarket mufflers is a weight reduction, typically of almost 25 lbs over stock. Our entire header kit with our mufflers drops almost 50 lbs off of the car total weight.






Mufflers make a huge change in how the car is going to sound. Of course headers will just add to that as well. If the car has headers on it, or a cam...all of this is going to play a part into how the car will sound.

If you can, listen to as many of them as you can in person....there are tons of



Our headers and mufflers (stock LS3)


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As you can see...every one of them has a different tone to it.
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I was always a flowmaster man but couldn't be happier with no cat's or resonators and small magnaflows all 3". Nice deep rumble idling but is an animal at WOT.
Are they the bullets?
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